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(08-14-2020 02:59 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Breaking news: Fauci discovers the existence of t-cells.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic...ID-19.html

Quote:One of the things that I don't think has been emphasized very much at all during the attempt to address, scientifically, the COVID-19 outbreak, and vaccine development and testing, is that we've been focusing very exclusively on the antibody test,' Fauci told McClatchy.

'There's another equally important component of the immune system.'


Here's the study: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/e...mxdWTTl9fE

Lol. You'd think with his background in AIDS research, he would have been very familiar with the role T-Cells could play.
Pathologists debunk 14 new myths about COVID-19
https://twitter.com/techinsider/status/1...54976?s=20
NSU to start with 2 wks virtual learning
https://twitter.com/NSBonsu_/status/1294...32128?s=20
(08-14-2020 03:15 PM)Grommet Wrote: [ -> ]Pathologists debunk 14 new myths about COVID-19
https://twitter.com/techinsider/status/1...54976?s=20

I just watched all 9:57 of that clip. It brought back haunting memories of Sunday School morality lectures from Rev. Cunningham and Ms. Olsen - - people who were beyond reproach, even if their lives were no more moral than ours.

The WuFlu a disease. It will be unpleasant for many. It will be very bad for some. It will be lethal for a few. Is that justification for what we've just put our country through? Well, I suppose it depends mostly on whether it is your ox that is getting gored. It's all fun and games pretending to be the biggest victim when it is not your livelihood or retirement that has been sacrificed.

=> How dare you expect teachers to put themselves in harm's way?
=> You think you are entitled to have your federal or state permit application processed?
=> You actually want to use the library?
=> Are you really so heartless that you would put another human being at risk during this crisis?

=> Now pay your taxes, peon. These essential public-sector (non)workers all need to be paid.

My cynical prediction is that this shutdown mania will continue right up to the point when public sector workers start missing paychecks. Only then will we decide that morality lectures from primped-up pathologists is no way to run our own lives.
AM, I like you, but you may be ******* nuts
Also I thought you were referencing characters from Little House on the Prairie, so maybe I am, too.
(08-14-2020 04:29 PM)Grommet Wrote: [ -> ]AM, I like you, but you may be ******* nuts

People keep saying that to me. It’s the strangest thing.

Coincidence, I’m sure.
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Well done to Northam again. And I’m not a fan - but he pulled back our state two weeks ago and our cases are on the decline. If our entire country followed his direction, we would have a football season.
(08-13-2020 10:16 AM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-13-2020 09:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]FWIW, I think the study I posted is limited. Small sample size, and probably other limiting factors.

But, given all of the studies, here's where I've come down (I'm no scientist of any kind, so take it for what it's worth.). The most reasonable conclusion I have is I think it's possible for children to transmit it. I just don't think it happens that frequently, and when it does, in most cases, the actual effects are negligible, if anything at all. Just like, it's possible for it to be transmitted through a surface at the grocery store, but not very likely at all

Most studies I've read show about 50% of the transmission rate of young children. Middle Schoolers and High Schoolers though are at least as good at transmitting it as adults. Here's one of the largest studies of that kind done in S Korea. It showed children aged 0-9 were the lowest transmitters in family clusters but children aged 10-19 was actually the highest (marginally higher than adults). These type of studies shed some light but are flawed and make certain assumptions but it's the best we have as of now.

The Study:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article

NYT article on the study (for laymen terms)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/healt...hools.html

More info on that study. Even the NYT is walking back the claims of 10-19 year olds spreading the virus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/healt...ebate.html
(08-14-2020 08:09 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote: [ -> ]Well done to Northam again. And I’m not a fan - but he pulled back our state two weeks ago and our cases are on the decline. If our entire country followed his direction, we would have a football season.

**** Northam. That is all.
(08-15-2020 11:30 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-14-2020 08:09 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote: [ -> ]Well done to Northam again. And I’m not a fan - but he pulled back our state two weeks ago and our cases are on the decline. If our entire country followed his direction, we would have a football season.

**** Northam. That is all.

Absolutely. Who opened it all up to begin with and led to the rise in cases? Not sure how anyone can think he has done a good job.
The hospital where my wife works has very few cases, where initially a full floor was dedicated to COVID, and these cases are less severe. We are now deeply into the "political" stage of this pandemic.
(08-15-2020 11:30 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-14-2020 08:09 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote: [ -> ]Well done to Northam again. And I’m not a fan - but he pulled back our state two weeks ago and our cases are on the decline. If our entire country followed his direction, we would have a football season.

**** Northam. That is all.

**** falwell’s son while we are at it. There is a special place in hell for him. That is all.
I get that Jerry Jr. is an easy target right now, and deservedly so, but his leadership has been beneficial to the university. I pray that he realizes how hurtful it is for a leader of such a conservative student body to set a positive example at all times, and that his recent Outer Banks antics did not live up to that standard.

He was rightfully removed, and given time and penance, I hope one day he can again contribute to the success of Liberty on smaller scale.
Easy target is an understatement. Falwell and his son are like shooting fish in a barrel. They have nothing on Judas.
Norfolk Sentara is having to add Covid rooms as we speak.
(08-16-2020 10:37 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote: [ -> ]Easy target is an understatement. Falwell and his son are like shooting fish in a barrel. They have nothing on Judas.

Okay, let's play, shall we.

Let's start with the premise that Governor Northam and Jerry Falwell, Jr are the points of contention. Governor Northam, by election, is supposed to represent all in the Commonwealth of Virginia. He literally discussed how he performs post-term abortion on WRVA in Richmond and has been caught in his EVMS yearbook either in KKK garb or Blackface, neither of which was cool years ago and certainly not now. Additionally, he declared a state of emergency during the completely non-eventful 2A rally in Richmond, yet neither he nor Mayor Stoney have felt the need to make the same declaration as Antifa and BLM thugs have destroyed much of the city of Richmond for months. As Governor, his actions affect me directly. He was not and appears to be not in line to be removed from office for his transgressions.
Jerry Falwell Jr was leading a Christian PRIVATE college in Lynchburg and allowed some poorly-tasted photos of a trip to the Outer Banks to be taken. He was swiftly removed from that position, appropriately, and has an indefinite leave of absence. His college, and his actions, have no effect on you unless you have a child attending Liberty University.
Yet, you dismiss the actions of the public servant who is a hypocrite at best, and hidden racist and post -term baby killer at worst, to rail against a figurehead that literally has zero effect on your life. What Northam believes and enacts affects us all. What Falwell believes and enacts effects only the LU community. Yet you compare them as equal in influence and effect. I call bull**** here, as LU has a right to exist, just as the liberal private colleges have a right to exist, even if I disagree with their philosophy with every fibre of my being, And just because both of us think our viewpoint is right, does not make it so, nor does it make the other side horrible people.
I am so weary of having discussions with people of the "all in" mentality, that you are either with the herd, or you are an exile. College, specifically, was originally intended for freedom of thought and expression, even if the conclusions drawn are contrary to those which you hold.

That is as diplomatic as I can state this response. I welcome an intelligent response in return, and hope you can do the same.
(08-16-2020 10:38 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]Norfolk Sentara is having to add Covid rooms as we speak.

The 7-day moving average for hospitalizations in the eastern district is way down from where it was a month ago.
SMU sued for spring 2020 tuition refund, could become class action suit.

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...06688?s=20
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