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It is a tabloid. They did absolutely nothing to verify the validity of the information before printing and that's why Giuliani gave it to them to print. They would have found a more reputable organization if they had more credible evidence. Could be legit but I'm not taking the word the NY Post, Rudy Guilianni and a sketchy computer repair guy's word for it. Still not that damning of evidence.

Anyway, back to COVID
(10-15-2020 03:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]It is a tabloid. They did absolutely nothing to verify the validity of the information before printing and that's why Giuliani gave it to them to print. They would have found a more reputable organization if they had more credible evidence. Could be legit but I'm not taking the word the NY Post, Rudy Guilianni and a sketchy computer repair guy's word for it. Still not that damning of evidence.

Anyway, back to COVID
You mean like every single Russia collusion bombshell that was printed and parroted on every "mainstream media" outlet in the nation. There is a ton more credible evidence and sourcing in this article than those stories that were debunked as quickly as they were written, one after another for 3 years.

The fact stands that the Biden campaign has not denied one specific details from that report. Not one. They in fact admitted that he "may have" met with Burisma even though it wasn't on his official calendar.

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(10-15-2020 07:26 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]
Sweden has done well. I wish there were more examples like them.
"Surprising" results, only if you ignored all of the data from the rest of the world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyreg...tw-nytimes
Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/
(10-20-2020 07:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/

Because we have progressed to a point where COVID is a cause and as we know from observing causes like climate change, and racial injustice, nobody really wants to find solutions to causes, they just want to virtue signal and scream about how everyone who doesn't support 100% of their cause is evil. They need things that look tough but do nothing like lock downs to show how serious they are, and they create symbols like masks to make sure we can identify which side people stand on. They care only for enforcing their will and solutions only distract from that.
(10-19-2020 04:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]"Surprising" results, only if you ignored all of the data from the rest of the world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyreg...tw-nytimes

The only surprising thing is that they actually reported on the actual data this time.
These demands seem reasonable....or not.

(10-20-2020 07:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/

This information seems old. There is no date on the article, it states “from the November 2020 issue”. But rapid tests have already been approved and distributed for use.
(10-20-2020 09:59 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 07:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/

This information seems old. There is no date on the article, it states “from the November 2020 issue”. But rapid tests have already been approved and distributed for use.

Rapid, at-home tests have not been approved.
(10-20-2020 10:01 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 09:59 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 07:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/

This information seems old. There is no date on the article, it states “from the November 2020 issue”. But rapid tests have already been approved and distributed for use.

Rapid, at-home tests have not been approved.

https://www.cnet.com/health/how-to-get-t...s-at-home/

https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-08-26-...ts-a-Month
(10-20-2020 10:28 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 10:01 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 09:59 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 07:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/

This information seems old. There is no date on the article, it states “from the November 2020 issue”. But rapid tests have already been approved and distributed for use.

Rapid, at-home tests have not been approved.

https://www.cnet.com/health/how-to-get-t...s-at-home/


Thanks, I hadn't seen that, but most of those are still different in that they aren't rapid response tests. In fact, the article mentions the ones the author of the Reason article is talking about:

Quote:You could definitely consider all of the above at-home tests to be rapid -- getting your results back within days is pretty fast -- but something even quicker could be available to consumers soon.

Axios reported on Sept. 16 that two companies, Gauss and Cellex, are teaming up to manufacture the first rapid-results at-home coronavirus test for the public. This test would give you results in minutes, and there'd be no need to send your sample back to a lab.

The FDA has not approved or authorized this test...
(10-20-2020 10:33 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 10:28 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 10:01 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 09:59 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 07:50 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone tell me why this is a bad idea?

https://reason.com/2020/10/20/rapid-home...e-illegal/

This information seems old. There is no date on the article, it states “from the November 2020 issue”. But rapid tests have already been approved and distributed for use.

Rapid, at-home tests have not been approved.

https://www.cnet.com/health/how-to-get-t...s-at-home/


Thanks, I hadn't seen that, but most of those are still different in that they aren't rapid response tests. In fact, the article mentions the ones the author of the Reason article is talking about:

Quote:You could definitely consider all of the above at-home tests to be rapid -- getting your results back within days is pretty fast -- but something even quicker could be available to consumers soon.

Axios reported on Sept. 16 that two companies, Gauss and Cellex, are teaming up to manufacture the first rapid-results at-home coronavirus test for the public. This test would give you results in minutes, and there'd be no need to send your sample back to a lab.

The FDA has not approved or authorized this test...

Instant at-home test results would certainly be a game changer as long as they are fairly accurate. It would help if they were also affordable.
(10-20-2020 09:57 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]These demands seem reasonable....or not.


I vote not reasonable.
(10-20-2020 12:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2020 09:57 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]These demands seem reasonable....or not.


I vote not reasonable.
There is so much wrong with this that it overshadows any that is right. How did Fairfax come up with their reopening plan? Did they not solicit input? Norfolk sent out a survey to parents of students. The survey probably didn't ask all the questions I would have liked to see, and I don't think their reopening plan is ideal, but at least they have one. But for this "petition" to be effective, they should have led with their "demands" rather than assuming they would not be met and go straight to the second option. The board will probably agree that the demands are undoable. If they had just explained that those "demands" were simply safeguards they believe are necessary for the safe return to school during a pandemic, they would be better received. Individually, none of the demands are unreasonable. Filtering systems might be logistically and financially difficult. But the others are easily doable or already being done. COVID testing will cost $$ but those costs are coming down and honestly is hard to argue against.

Just not sure what they expected to accomplish with this. The approach should have been "here's what we would like to see but it is not a hard line and we are willing to negotiate".
We insist that you extend our paid vacation to August, 2021.

Teachers are the sacred cows of American professions. But I'm presently in the mood to say something heretical: Over my adult life, the teaching profession has managed to achieve the least public good with the most resources. And yet they still manage to complain about how tough they have it.

If the VEA had any sense, it would immediately disavow this position statement issued by the Fairfax County coven. I won't hold my breathe.
Sorta off typic but virus related. Has anyone used the school of dental hygiene care clinic on campus for a cleaning? My dentist is backed up until March of 2021 and I have called around looking for earlier appointments to no avail. 03-banghead
(10-20-2020 08:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote: [ -> ]I live in FC; everyone I've spoken to, including parents, broadly supports the Union's demands. I've already signed the petition and written to the Board that schools stay closed for the health and safety of the overall community.

Of course, we're fortunate in that most parents here work in sectors which allow them to work-from-home and stay on top of their child's education. And the County has provided free laptops, wifi, lunches, and other provisions to families who are less fortunate.

Ultimately, it seems like most of the outrage is coming from those who don't pay taxes here. The Fairfax County education system is - by far - our most valuable investment (52.6% of taxes). There's no reason the Board should be risking the lives of that investment (aka. teachers, staff, children) and I'm glad they're beginning to feel heat from the Union, parents, and overall community.

And if they don't reverse course, they're simply making the next Board elections an easy decision for everyone.

Based on what data is it too dangerous for teachers to be in the schools and based on what data is it better for the students not to be in the schools?
"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."

- - George Bernard Shaw.

You must protect us from all of the risks and consequences of doing the job we agreed to do.

- - The Fairfax County Schoolteachers Cabal

We're rich and able to take care of our own; to hell with the rest of you. Now pay your taxes.

- - The caring accomplices in the Fairfax p.t.a.
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