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Old people often die of pneumonia, often even starting as a common cold. My mother gets pneumonia all the time. I have been keeping my family away from her.

(05-08-2020 10:34 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-07-2020 01:45 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-07-2020 01:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]And when the situation is changing daily? You expect the legislature to take the lead on this? You expect them to draft legislation that will effectively guide us through this? That's not their role. If they felt he was overstepping then maybe they would step in but this is part of the role of the executive branch. This is how it's supposed to work. The entire idea of his powers in this is that they are temporary and there's zero reason to believe it won't be.

Temporary would have been two weeks. When he has prevented tens of thousands of Virginians from earning a living, he has overstepped his authority. Now, if he wanted to recommend a stay-at-home order for two months, and the legislature approved, that's fine. THAT is how it's supposed to work.

(05-08-2020 09:34 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-07-2020 06:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting data here, as well. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

So, since Feb. 1, here are the top causes of death according to the CDC:

Pneumonia: 71,451
COVID: 45,632
Pneumonia + COVID: 20.196
Flu: 6,000

WTF? I knew flu as cause of death was down significantly, but I hadn't seen that number. That is crazy. They were saying this was going to be one of the worst Flu seasons on record before COVID. Now we are sitting at 10% of the expected number of deaths from a heavy flu season? Has COVID killed a bunch of people that were going to die from the flu anyway? How many flu deaths have been called COVID deaths? Is this just the result of social distancing? These are the reasons that some of us have no faith in our media. Aren't these the kinds of answers you would expect reporters to research? This has been going on for months, and almost nobody is asking where the flu deaths went.

Flu season is typical worst in December through February. It can last into May but you aren't going to see a lot of flu deaths in March and April.

According to the CDC, there were between 24,000 and 62,000 flu deaths between October and April.

(05-08-2020 02:05 PM)smudge12 Wrote: [ -> ]Updated guidelines from Northam:

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/08/gov-nor...-virginia/

Quote:Phase one is set to be implemented on May 15, 2020.

Non-essential retail: 50 percent permitted capacity
Employees required to wear a mask

Restaurant and beverage services: Takeout and delivery
Only if you have a permit for outside seating can you have limited outdoor dining at 50% capacity, table spacing and employees wear masks

Salons: By appointment only and strict guidelines at 50% occupancy
Client and worker must wear face masks. Limits to services that can be down w mask. No lip waxing or beard trims.

Entertainment: Bowling alleys, theaters, etc. remain closed.

Fitness: Indoor gyms remain closed
Limited outdoor exercise to 10 participants, 10 feet of distance and sharing guidelines for equipment

Places of worship: 50% capacity
Drive-in and online still encouraged.

Beaches continue to have a 10-person limit for fishing and exercise

Social gatherings of 10 or more are still banned and teleworking or working from home should be used whenever possible. Face masks are also still recommended while in public.

However, Northam says some parts of the state may keep coronavirus-related restrictions in place longer than the rest of the state.

The governor said Wednesday that areas of the state hard hit by the virus, like northern Virginia and the Eastern Shore, may extend bans on certain business openings and public gatherings that are expected to expire May 15.

From today’s paper:

Part of me, I sit here and think, You know what? We might be better off. Let’s just pass on 20/21, he said. Let’s focus on academics. Let’s just park athletics to the side for a year. Let everybody get ahead academically, work out on their own. But are we kidding ourselves? Is it going to be nothing but starts, stops, starts and stops? Are we focused on what’s truly important? Maybe we should be focused on waiting for a vaccine and other priorities rather than trying to figure out how to get a soccer season in or how to get basketball season in, in all honesty, in the big picture on things.

Wood Selig

I agree. I’m not going in an enclosed arena to watch any game and put my life in danger till this thing is way under control.

(05-09-2020 07:47 AM)smudge12 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree Mac.

And Wood Selig has a point. Obviously honor athletic scholarships and pay staff, but universities throughout the country should reallocate other athletic funds to Covid-19 research. After all, research and learning is the point of our public institutions.

In the grand scheme of things, we can live without "amateur" sports for a while.

So much of ODU's athletic budget expenses are fixed, like scholarships, coaching salaries, and facilities overhead, those items make up 3/4th of our budget. Even if we don't play a down or a minute, we'll spend $35mil. With less students, no ticket sales, less licensing fees, I think we'll be in the red.

If we play and I hope we do, I will be there. We cannot live in fear forever. What we have been doing the last six weeks is not living.

(05-09-2020 09:14 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]If we play and I hope we do, I will be there. We cannot live in fear forever. What we have been doing the last six weeks is not living.

To me, it’s not even about fear. I’m just not sure the data supports the measures. Rather than trying to protect everyone from getting it, let’s focus our efforts on protecting the most vulnerable.

(05-09-2020 09:22 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 09:14 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]If we play and I hope we do, I will be there. We cannot live in fear forever. What we have been doing the last six weeks is not living.

To me, it’s not even about fear. I’m just not sure the data supports the measures. Rather than trying to protect everyone from getting it, let’s focus our efforts on protecting the most vulnerable.

Coach, you consistently make the most sense of anyone on here.

We never closed because were essential. But we also didnt force anyone to come into the office. But when talking about planning to come back at some point there needs to be reason. We can't make so many accommodations at the work place that its kore inconvenient to be at the office. If you're high risk or uncomfortable until a vaccine then stay home uhh until everyone is comfortable. But we cant change arenas and stadiums and concerts to make it so everyone is 6 ft apart. That's no way to go forward.

(05-09-2020 09:42 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 09:22 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 09:14 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]If we play and I hope we do, I will be there. We cannot live in fear forever. What we have been doing the last six weeks is not living.

To me, it’s not even about fear. I’m just not sure the data supports the measures. Rather than trying to protect everyone from getting it, let’s focus our efforts on protecting the most vulnerable.

Coach, you consistently make the most sense of anyone on here.

+1

(05-09-2020 09:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]We never closed because were essential. But we also didnt force anyone to come into the office. But when talking about planning to come back at some point there needs to be reason. We can't make so many accommodations at the work place that its kore inconvenient to be at the office. If you're high risk or uncomfortable until a vaccine then stay home uhh until everyone is comfortable. But we cant change arenas and stadiums and concerts to make it so everyone is 6 ft apart. That's no way to go forward.

I'm not so sure that "until everyone is comfortable" will prove to be a workable standard, at least not for me - - and probably not for ODU athletics.

I am fortunate in having a staff the very much WANTS to be at work. I am unfortunate in that the vast majority of our engagements involve regular, and for the most part in-person, interactions with state and federal personnel. We are paralyzed to the extent that our public sector counterparts "feel uncomfortable" in performing the hands-on parts of their jobs.

I realize that the response to this is going to be tough crap on you, old man. Learn to code. But I selfishly wish that someone else's comfort level isn't what ultimately will determine whether my business model needs to be substantially revamped if we are to survive.

Less selfishly, I hope for the good of the ODU athletic program that people are made to feel comfortable. Not in the compulsion sense; that will never work. But in the sense that our leaders and media cool off on the hysteria and start to encourage people to get back to some level of normalcy.

If we have a 20/21 men's basketball season, I will be there for every home game.

Speaking of protecting the vulnerable, about 2% of our country’s population live in nursing homes. About a third of the COVID deaths nationwide have been in nursing homes. In Virginia, the percentage of COVID deaths in nursing homes is 57%. Let’s focus our efforts on those facilities first. Closing the playgrounds might make it appear the government is doing something, but it doesn’t mean it’s doing something that actually is having an effect on anything.

Im not sure what the outcome will be but significant medical advances need to be made for their to be any athletic events with fans. (Im a fan of not having fans, if possible, at least for the foreseeable future). I cant see sitting ina stadium with 15-20k people and even worse a closed in arena. Its just not gonna happen.

I like to focus on the positives. The last 6 weeks have been amazing. Ive gotten to spend more time with my wife and kids than I would ever be able to do. We’ve fixed up the house to some degree. We’ve been going to parks/trails and getting out almost daily. Ive been able to golf 1-2 times per week.

Havent been able to hang out with friends and that sucks. Business sucks but we had a decent neat egg built up to last a few months and the EIDL loan would last me a year. Certainly not all rosy but Ive enjoyed this time.

That's awesome. I too have spent lots of time with my kids which is amazing. But it's also been extremely stressful because I'm supporting 400 others working from home and me and my team have been basically working non stop. My kids don't understand I am essentially on call 24/7 now because everyone else has spread their work days out from morning coffee to late in the evening as they work around their family schedules to make things work. And my wife has gestational diabetes again so shes having to cook special meals, feels like crap, and that just adds more stress and fear of us going out and being around others so we haven't done **** in 6 weeks. And she cant go with us for bike rides or do anything because shes in the last trimester and isn't up for anything. So it's been a overall a pretty stressful experience so far.

But, at least I don't have to go in if I don't have to and also don't have to work at a hospital or something high risk. Always positives but man I've got a lot more gray hairs now. :)

(05-09-2020 02:23 PM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]That's awesome. I too have spent lots of time with my kids which is amazing. But it's also been extremely stressful because I'm supporting 400 others working from home and me and my team have been basically working non stop. My kids don't understand I am essentially on call 24/7 now because everyone else has spread their work days out from morning coffee to late in the evening as they work around their family schedules to make things work. And my wife has gestational diabetes again so shes having to cook special meals, feels like crap, and that just adds more stress and fear of us going out and being around others so we haven't done **** in 6 weeks. And she cant go with us for bike rides or do anything because shes in the last trimester and isn't up for anything. So it's been a overall a pretty stressful experience so far.

But, at least I don't have to go in if I don't have to and also don't have to work at a hospital or something high risk. Always positives but man I've got a lot more gray hairs now. :)

I cant imagine working in an IT related field right now. Keep that woman safe and we will be back at it in no time.

That we will! Baby #3 in just a few weeks. Bout to get real up in here! :)

(05-09-2020 10:22 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Speaking of protecting the vulnerable, about 2% of our country’s population live in nursing homes. About a third of the COVID deaths nationwide have been in nursing homes. In Virginia, the percentage of COVID deaths in nursing homes is 57%. Let’s focus our efforts on those facilities first. Closing the playgrounds might make it appear the government is doing something, but it doesn’t mean it’s doing something that actually is having an effect on anything.

FYI Gov Northam was given an F by the New York Post for his management of the Corona virus in Virginia.

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(05-09-2020 05:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 02:23 PM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]That's awesome. I too have spent lots of time with my kids which is amazing. But it's also been extremely stressful because I'm supporting 400 others working from home and me and my team have been basically working non stop. My kids don't understand I am essentially on call 24/7 now because everyone else has spread their work days out from morning coffee to late in the evening as they work around their family schedules to make things work. And my wife has gestational diabetes again so shes having to cook special meals, feels like crap, and that just adds more stress and fear of us going out and being around others so we haven't done **** in 6 weeks. And she cant go with us for bike rides or do anything because shes in the last trimester and isn't up for anything. So it's been a overall a pretty stressful experience so far.

But, at least I don't have to go in if I don't have to and also don't have to work at a hospital or something high risk. Always positives but man I've got a lot more gray hairs now. :)

I cant imagine working in an IT related field right now. Keep that woman safe and we will be back at it in no time.

My field is IT healthcare. I work as a tech analyst for Mary Washington healthcare. If I was doing calls I could work at home but I'm on the projects team so I have to be at the hospital Monday-Friday. I'm blessed to be working but its definitely risky some days. We wear masks, have temperature checks etc but still.

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(05-10-2020 09:23 AM)bigblueodu Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 10:22 AM)ODUCoach Wrote: [ -> ]Speaking of protecting the vulnerable, about 2% of our country’s population live in nursing homes. About a third of the COVID deaths nationwide have been in nursing homes. In Virginia, the percentage of COVID deaths in nursing homes is 57%. Let’s focus our efforts on those facilities first. Closing the playgrounds might make it appear the government is doing something, but it doesn’t mean it’s doing something that actually is having an effect on anything.

FYI Gov Northam was given an F by the New York Post for his management of the Corona virus in Virginia.

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While I think his handling of this virus, and testing in particular, has been an abject failure, I'm pretty sure the "NY Post" ran an opinion column from a couple of economists who unsurprisingly gave Northam an F.

(05-10-2020 09:28 AM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 05:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-09-2020 02:23 PM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]That's awesome. I too have spent lots of time with my kids which is amazing. But it's also been extremely stressful because I'm supporting 400 others working from home and me and my team have been basically working non stop. My kids don't understand I am essentially on call 24/7 now because everyone else has spread their work days out from morning coffee to late in the evening as they work around their family schedules to make things work. And my wife has gestational diabetes again so shes having to cook special meals, feels like crap, and that just adds more stress and fear of us going out and being around others so we haven't done **** in 6 weeks. And she cant go with us for bike rides or do anything because shes in the last trimester and isn't up for anything. So it's been a overall a pretty stressful experience so far.

But, at least I don't have to go in if I don't have to and also don't have to work at a hospital or something high risk. Always positives but man I've got a lot more gray hairs now. :)

I cant imagine working in an IT related field right now. Keep that woman safe and we will be back at it in no time.

My field is IT healthcare. I work as a tech analyst for Mary Washington healthcare. If I was doing calls I could work at home but I'm on the projects team so I have to be at the hospital Monday-Friday. I'm blessed to be working but its definitely risky some days. We wear masks, have temperature checks etc but still.

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We're starting to re-kindle project work now. Trying to figure out logistics and work planning. That's a bit harder to do with a team all being remote than doing support or calls like you suggest. Doing the remote support is easy just tiresome.

Good luck to ya and thanks for keeping the healthcare folks running. My sister is a Epic Analyst for Sentara and I know her crew worked their butts off back when this first started.

Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought:

https://judithcurry.com/2020/05/10/why-h...n-thought/