(06-15-2018 10:28 PM)Moody Magic Wrote: [ -> ]lol you win in what counts, but we win in AAC play for what it’s worth, 8-3 vs. UConn. Let us have something.
We have two regular season titles and two tourney championships. No one else can claim that. Also, three POYs. Pretty remarkable that in a conference with b-ball powers UConn, Memphis, Cincinnati and Temple that lil SMU has dominated the conference is pretty cool. Quite an accomplishment for a lil private in Texas. This kid who loves basketball is very proud of that.
Lol
UC is clearly the flagship. UC has 2 league titles as well. They shared in 2014 and won it out right last season.
Also let’s look at overall conference record:
UC: 72-18
SMU: 63-27
UC is the only team who’s been in the league since it’s inception that has made the tourney every year.
And head to head 7-3 in favor of UC. UC has swept SMU in 2 of the 5 seasons in the AAC. Smu has never swept UC.
It’s not really even close who dominates this league.
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Not to use last year as an excuse, but I will. We were decimated with injuries. Going into last season we actually had one more conference win all-time than UC. So more outright regular season titles, more conference tourney titles and more POYs. All that said, I’ll award you co-flagship.
Sure last year was rough for SMU. But Keep in mind, SMU wasn’t exactly ripping **** up before all the injuries. UC embarrassed a fully healthy SMU team the first time they played last year.
Consistent teams either have enough depth to over come injuries or have a strength and conditioning program that works to prevent them.
UC has had zero down years in the AAC. They also don’t have any NCAA violations. Those are the facts. UC is the best team in the league. It’s not that debatable.
I mean, UC lost its head coach one year and he never coached a single conference game. But a good staff and good players overcame
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LOL, homer much. SMU has been the dominant team in the league. Don't forget their best team wasn't post season eligible, not b/c of what they did, but bc admin didnt have the sack to appeal after the 80s debacle. That team would have rolled in the AAC tourney and actually gotten SMU past the first round, which seems to be the criticism.
THey also own an absolute smackdown of UC in their only meeting in the conference tourney final. Both are fine programs, but you really think UC overcomes the loss of 9 ships in 3 years. SMU came through ridiculously harsh sanctions like no other, until last season where they lost 2 NBA guys and their first big off bench. Sure, you whooped us in Cincy, but pretty sure we would have eaten you at Moody, as we had most everyone, until Shake/Jarrey and Ray went out.
Predictions of SMUs demise while people tout programs like UCF is funny. I guess we'll see, but we're about to get better
SMU's best team was definitely the one with Semi. Not the team the year before...
UC is clearly the flagship. UC has 2 league titles as well. They shared in 2014 and won it out right last season.
Also let’s look at overall conference record:
UC: 72-18
SMU: 63-27
UC is the only team who’s been in the league since it’s inception that has made the tourney every year.
And head to head 7-3 in favor of UC. UC has swept SMU in 2 of the 5 seasons in the AAC. Smu has never swept UC.
It’s not really even close who dominates this league.
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Not to use last year as an excuse, but I will. We were decimated with injuries. Going into last season we actually had one more conference win all-time than UC. So more outright regular season titles, more conference tourney titles and more POYs. All that said, I’ll award you co-flagship.
Sure last year was rough for SMU. But Keep in mind, SMU wasn’t exactly ripping **** up before all the injuries. UC embarrassed a fully healthy SMU team the first time they played last year.
Consistent teams either have enough depth to over come injuries or have a strength and conditioning program that works to prevent them.
UC has had zero down years in the AAC. They also don’t have any NCAA violations. Those are the facts. UC is the best team in the league. It’s not that debatable.
I mean, UC lost its head coach one year and he never coached a single conference game. But a good staff and good players overcame
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LOL, homer much. SMU has been the dominant team in the league. Don't forget their best team wasn't post season eligible, not b/c of what they did, but bc admin didnt have the sack to appeal after the 80s debacle. That team would have rolled in the AAC tourney and actually gotten SMU past the first round, which seems to be the criticism.
THey also own an absolute smackdown of UC in their only meeting in the conference tourney final. Both are fine programs, but you really think UC overcomes the loss of 9 ships in 3 years. SMU came through ridiculously harsh sanctions like no other, until last season where they lost 2 NBA guys and their first big off bench. Sure, you whooped us in Cincy, but pretty sure we would have eaten you at Moody, as we had most everyone, until Shake/Jarrey and Ray went out.
Predictions of SMUs demise while people tout programs like UCF is funny. I guess we'll see, but we're about to get better
SMU's best team was definitely the one with Semi. Not the team the year before...
Nah, 2014-15 was a better team. Nic Moore + Shake + Moriera + Kennedy + Ben Moore was a very imposing lineup.
(06-16-2018 12:01 PM)Moody Magic Wrote: [ -> ]Not to use last year as an excuse, but I will. We were decimated with injuries. Going into last season we actually had one more conference win all-time than UC. So more outright regular season titles, more conference tourney titles and more POYs. All that said, I’ll award you co-flagship.
Sure last year was rough for SMU. But Keep in mind, SMU wasn’t exactly ripping **** up before all the injuries. UC embarrassed a fully healthy SMU team the first time they played last year.
Consistent teams either have enough depth to over come injuries or have a strength and conditioning program that works to prevent them.
UC has had zero down years in the AAC. They also don’t have any NCAA violations. Those are the facts. UC is the best team in the league. It’s not that debatable.
I mean, UC lost its head coach one year and he never coached a single conference game. But a good staff and good players overcame
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LOL, homer much. SMU has been the dominant team in the league. Don't forget their best team wasn't post season eligible, not b/c of what they did, but bc admin didnt have the sack to appeal after the 80s debacle. That team would have rolled in the AAC tourney and actually gotten SMU past the first round, which seems to be the criticism.
THey also own an absolute smackdown of UC in their only meeting in the conference tourney final. Both are fine programs, but you really think UC overcomes the loss of 9 ships in 3 years. SMU came through ridiculously harsh sanctions like no other, until last season where they lost 2 NBA guys and their first big off bench. Sure, you whooped us in Cincy, but pretty sure we would have eaten you at Moody, as we had most everyone, until Shake/Jarrey and Ray went out.
Predictions of SMUs demise while people tout programs like UCF is funny. I guess we'll see, but we're about to get better
SMU's best team was definitely the one with Semi. Not the team the year before...
Nah, 2014-15 was a better team. Nic Moore + Shake + Moriera + Kennedy + Ben Moore was a very imposing lineup.
Shake wasn't on the 2014-15 team. Was Nic Moore (Jr.) , Ryan Manuel, Sterling Brown (So.), Kennedy (Jr.) Moore (So.), and Moreira.
I think 16-17 Shake Milton (So.), Sterling Brown (Sr.), Jarrey Foster (So.), Semi Ojeleye (Jr.) and Ben Moore (Sr.) team was a slightly better team than 14-15 team, but majorly lacked depth. Kennedy was a monster the 14-15 season, but Sterling and Ben were just starting to come into their own at that point though.
Gotta think though that the sanctions team year before Semi's first year was best, since Semi would have played that season had we not been on sanctions... tough to know, but would have had: Nic Moore (AAC POY that season), Sterling Brown (Jr.), Semi (AAC POY next season), Ben Moore (Jr.), Jordan Tolbert (top 2 rebounder in league that season) with Markus Kennedy and Freshman Shake Milton off the bench. Tough to say they were or weren't better than 16-17 team, but it would have been real interesting.
(06-16-2018 01:10 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote: [ -> ]Sure last year was rough for SMU. But Keep in mind, SMU wasn’t exactly ripping **** up before all the injuries. UC embarrassed a fully healthy SMU team the first time they played last year.
Consistent teams either have enough depth to over come injuries or have a strength and conditioning program that works to prevent them.
UC has had zero down years in the AAC. They also don’t have any NCAA violations. Those are the facts. UC is the best team in the league. It’s not that debatable.
I mean, UC lost its head coach one year and he never coached a single conference game. But a good staff and good players overcame
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LOL, homer much. SMU has been the dominant team in the league. Don't forget their best team wasn't post season eligible, not b/c of what they did, but bc admin didnt have the sack to appeal after the 80s debacle. That team would have rolled in the AAC tourney and actually gotten SMU past the first round, which seems to be the criticism.
THey also own an absolute smackdown of UC in their only meeting in the conference tourney final. Both are fine programs, but you really think UC overcomes the loss of 9 ships in 3 years. SMU came through ridiculously harsh sanctions like no other, until last season where they lost 2 NBA guys and their first big off bench. Sure, you whooped us in Cincy, but pretty sure we would have eaten you at Moody, as we had most everyone, until Shake/Jarrey and Ray went out.
Predictions of SMUs demise while people tout programs like UCF is funny. I guess we'll see, but we're about to get better
SMU's best team was definitely the one with Semi. Not the team the year before...
Nah, 2014-15 was a better team. Nic Moore + Shake + Moriera + Kennedy + Ben Moore was a very imposing lineup.
Shake wasn't on the 2014-15 team. Was Nic Moore (Jr.) , Ryan Manuel, Sterling Brown (So.), Kennedy (Jr.) Moore (So.), and Moreira.
I think Shake Milton (So.), Sterling Brown (Sr.), Jarrey Foster (So.), Semi Ojeleye (Jr.) and Ben Moore (Sr.) was a slightly better team, but majorly lacked depth.
Kennedy was a monster the 14-15 season. Sterling and Ben were just starting to come into their own at that point though.
Sorry, you are correct. I think I conflated Shake being on the team in that he was sitting our arena wearing a SMU shirt when we played you guys (as a commit). Moreira was a beast. I wasn't afraid of Nic Moore or even Kennedy as much as I was Moreira. He was a big matchup problem for us. I think that's partially why we ended up getting past you guys the next season at your place.
SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
(06-19-2018 12:44 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ]anyone know when aj lawson will visit smu or tulane..with him reclassifying imo he is a season changing type of player
i know smu/tulanes chances are slim but would be big for the league if either could land him
Would be nice but more and more big programs are entering the mix
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
Maybe you can give me a Kevin Ollie history lesson. I honestly don’t remember what happened after you guys won the title in 2014. I’d prefer Penny not self destruct, but if he can bring a title to Memphis first, I’d certainly take it.
You obviously lost a lot of talent from the 2014 team (Napier, Daniels, Giffey, etc)....in total 4 out of your top 5 scorers. All of the guys I listed could really shoot (all shot over 40% from 3). Just analyzing the 2014/2015 teams, it looks like you brought in some good guards, but you never got good replacements for Giffy or maybe most importantly Deandre Daniels.
What little I’ve heard and seen reminds me a lot of what happened to us with Pastner. He wasn’t a good coach, but what ailed him was his inability to put together a full team of studs. The guys he got, he struggled to keep. We always seemed to be guard heavy with no depth, playing small ball because we had no other choice.
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
(06-19-2018 12:44 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ]anyone know when aj lawson will visit smu or tulane..with him reclassifying imo he is a season changing type of player
i know smu/tulanes chances are slim but would be big for the league if either could land him
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
We need to get 5 or 6 to the dance yearly. That will increase chances for deeper runs than AAC teams have had recently. And we need at least one elite 8 or better..... maybe a couple of sweet 16’s....every year. It can be done.
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
Maybe you can give me a Kevin Ollie history lesson. I honestly don’t remember what happened after you guys won the title in 2014. I’d prefer Penny not self destruct, but if he can bring a title to Memphis first, I’d certainly take it.
You obviously lost a lot of talent from the 2014 team (Napier, Daniels, Giffey, etc)....in total 4 out of your top 5 scorers. All of the guys I listed could really shoot (all shot over 40% from 3). Just analyzing the 2014/2015 teams, it looks like you brought in some good guards, but you never got good replacements for Giffy or maybe most importantly Deandre Daniels.
What little I’ve heard and seen reminds me a lot of what happened to us with Pastner. He wasn’t a good coach, but what ailed him was his inability to put together a full team of studs. The guys he got, he struggled to keep. We always seemed to be guard heavy with no depth, playing small ball because we had no other choice.
ollie pulled in 4 stars left and right and they just never developed and the team play got worse over time. His teams had the UConn mentality and then it all changed after we lost to kansas in the NCAA tourny. From then on the teams gave up pretty quickly and our entire offense was isos...it was so aggravating to watch. ik we had a ton of injuries that year but still...we pulled in the 9th best recruiting class in the country while being in the aac...that should produce something better than 15-17. I have to give credit to the fight the kids showed in both aac tourneys, but during the reg season it was a different story. Ollie will always bleed blue and i would have a beer with the man any day. But it was for the best that we got rid of him. Im upset by the way my school fired him. But hopefully a smaller school will give him a shot and he can improve and be back on the big stage.
With all that being said i hope then best for penny. But wait until he coaches his players. Before going all in.
(06-19-2018 12:44 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ]anyone know when aj lawson will visit smu or tulane..with him reclassifying imo he is a season changing type of player
i know smu/tulanes chances are slim but would be big for the league if either could land him
At Tulane tomorrow and Thursday. SMU next week.
Any idea when/if he plans to visit Oregon and Creighton?
(06-19-2018 12:44 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ]anyone know when aj lawson will visit smu or tulane..with him reclassifying imo he is a season changing type of player
i know smu/tulanes chances are slim but would be big for the league if either could land him
At Tulane tomorrow and Thursday. SMU next week.
Any idea when/if he plans to visit Oregon and Creighton?
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
Shh. Don’t poop on the party.
I went ahead and put part of my original statement in bold for you non reading bums .
Jeremiah Martin (who averaged 18.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, and 3.8 apg last season) expects to recover from his injury by the start of the season. He is already running and jumping and trying to stay in cardiovascular shape.
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
Shh. Don’t poop on the party.
I went ahead and put part of my original statement in bold for you non reading bums .
For Shocker fans “it’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday.”
(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote: [ -> ]SMU was very solid during that 3 year run. Larry Brown did some great things there.
I hope that they continue to stay at a high level so the AAC can be 5-7 deep year in and year out.
Memphis and UConn should be back into year NCAA contention soon. For UConn we know Hurley is great. For Memphis we are getting the best recruits now we gotta see how Penny handles college coaching.
When Memphis and UConn are at their best, beating them means something. It's just hard to beat them when they are at their best.
Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
Shh. Don’t poop on the party.
I went ahead and put part of my original statement in bold for you non reading bums .
For Shocker fans “it’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday.”
(06-18-2018 10:22 PM)Huskypride Wrote: [ -> ]Remember ollie was good recruiter so dont hang your hat until you have seen penny coach his players
Shh. Don’t poop on the party.
I went ahead and put part of my original statement in bold for you non reading bums .
For Shocker fans “it’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday.”
The irony in this post is amazing!
Uh huh. We’ve been good in the 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s. We’ll be good again; it’s only a matter of time. Too much talent in the city for us to be down for very long. Denial is tough. I bet you’ll have buddies that are still in denial when the results play out in our favor.
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