So, the Gerrit Cole thing...
https://abc13.com/5661553/?ex_cid=TA_KTRK_TW
Quote:Hinch could have turned to Cole, a Cy Young Award contender who won Game 5 on Sunday. Ready to go on short rest, he was warming up earlier in the game but had cooled off by the seventh. He only left the bullpen after the final out.
"I wasn't going to pitch him unless we were going to win the World Series and have a lead," Hinch said. "He was going to help us win. He was available, and I felt it was a game that he was going to come in had we tied it or taken the lead."
Should we believe this?
Is is possible that some combination of Hinch, Luhnow, and Crane decided they weren't going to use Cole in game 7 because he wasn't coming back to the Astros?
With the Nationals victory, this means that the National League has won the decade of the 2010s. From 2010* - 2019, the NL won the World Series over the AL 6-4, with the Giants winning three times and the Cardinals, Cubs, and Nats one each. Had the Astros won, the decade would have been a 5-5 draw. Oh well AL, LOL.
But, this is the first time since the 1960s that the NL has won the decade. In fact, the 1960s and the 2010s are now the only two times that the NL has won a complete decade in the WS era. The 1980s were a 5-5 tie, and the NL did win the first truncated decade of 1903, 1905-1909 by 4-2.
The AL also won a truncated decade in the 1990s, when the WS was only played 9 times, but they won that decade 6-3 so it wouldn't have mattered if the NL had won the missed 1994 WS.
* Please, no pedants claiming the decade 'really' started in 2011 and ends in 2020. Nobody does it that way.
(10-31-2019 11:30 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]So, the Gerrit Cole thing...
https://abc13.com/5661553/?ex_cid=TA_KTRK_TW
Quote:Hinch could have turned to Cole, a Cy Young Award contender who won Game 5 on Sunday. Ready to go on short rest, he was warming up earlier in the game but had cooled off by the seventh. He only left the bullpen after the final out.
"I wasn't going to pitch him unless we were going to win the World Series and have a lead," Hinch said. "He was going to help us win. He was available, and I felt it was a game that he was going to come in had we tied it or taken the lead."
Should we believe this?
Is is possible that some combination of Hinch, Luhnow, and Crane decided they weren't going to use Cole in game 7 because he wasn't coming back to the Astros?
I don't get this. They had the lead after Greinke walked Soto. If Cole was available, then Hinch messed up big time. It wasn't his fault that his hitters stranded 10 runners against Scherzer, but not using Cole when (if?) he was available, was criminal. Martinez had his best available pitcher ready to go and he used him to great effect.
(10-31-2019 12:05 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 11:10 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 10:53 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 10:11 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ]Congratulations to the Nationals! Unbelievable October for them, and really great managing by Martinez. Will be curious to see what happens with Strasburg and Rendon (after Harper leaving in the Spring).
Mike Rizzo is one of the best baseball scouts in the game. Great to see him win a WS after getting put on the hot seat last year. For all of his successes, I still can't for the life of me understand how or why he hired Dusty Baker in an attempt to get over the hump. They have a keeper in Dave Martinez.
they needed something personally different after the disaster that was Matt Williams. As good as Davey is- Williams was that bad.....
Rizzo- man at times I haven't been sure. Do love that he built from the rotation on. We end the 2010's with a dominant rotation.... hahahaha
Two months into the season we were talking about whether it was just Martinez or both Martinez and Rizzo who had to be fired.
Guilty
I mean, if Hader had closed it out like he'd done a hundred times, both probably would have been fired. Playoff baseball is chaotic and and somewhat random
Baseball is a crazy game. Kendrick saw 51 low and away pitches in 2019 and had 5 hits...all singles. Harris throws him a perfect 91 mph cutter on the corner, low and away and he homers to straight away RF. How many HR did he have to straight away RF this season? Zero.
(10-31-2019 12:48 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 12:05 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 11:10 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 10:53 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 10:11 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ]Congratulations to the Nationals! Unbelievable October for them, and really great managing by Martinez. Will be curious to see what happens with Strasburg and Rendon (after Harper leaving in the Spring).
Mike Rizzo is one of the best baseball scouts in the game. Great to see him win a WS after getting put on the hot seat last year. For all of his successes, I still can't for the life of me understand how or why he hired Dusty Baker in an attempt to get over the hump. They have a keeper in Dave Martinez.
they needed something personally different after the disaster that was Matt Williams. As good as Davey is- Williams was that bad.....
Rizzo- man at times I haven't been sure. Do love that he built from the rotation on. We end the 2010's with a dominant rotation.... hahahaha
Two months into the season we were talking about whether it was just Martinez or both Martinez and Rizzo who had to be fired.
Guilty
I mean, if Hader had closed it out like he'd done a hundred times, both probably would have been fired. Playoff baseball is chaotic and and somewhat random
think that's very possible.... And think LA would be your world champions right now- I think LA would have killed the Astros with no lefties on the pitching staff- and the pitching would have done well enough IMO.
really sad umpiring last night. 19 missed calls- the correct call rate was 88.9% Think about it. 1 of every 9 pitches last night was called wrong. That's just not good.
(10-31-2019 11:57 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 11:30 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]So, the Gerrit Cole thing...
https://abc13.com/5661553/?ex_cid=TA_KTRK_TW
Quote:Hinch could have turned to Cole, a Cy Young Award contender who won Game 5 on Sunday. Ready to go on short rest, he was warming up earlier in the game but had cooled off by the seventh. He only left the bullpen after the final out.
"I wasn't going to pitch him unless we were going to win the World Series and have a lead," Hinch said. "He was going to help us win. He was available, and I felt it was a game that he was going to come in had we tied it or taken the lead."
Should we believe this?
Is is possible that some combination of Hinch, Luhnow, and Crane decided they weren't going to use Cole in game 7 because he wasn't coming back to the Astros?
I don't get this. They had the lead after Greinke walked Soto. If Cole was available, then Hinch messed up big time. It wasn't his fault that his hitters stranded 10 runners against Scherzer, but not using Cole when (if?) he was available, was criminal. Martinez had his best available pitcher ready to go and he used him to great effect.
Grienke only threw 80 pitches, I was hoping he could finish the inning. Bring in Cole for 8th and 9th, Astros win, if I knew Cole was leaving I would have certainly used him for last 2.
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(10-31-2019 03:13 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 01:36 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 12:48 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 12:05 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 11:10 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Two months into the season we were talking about whether it was just Martinez or both Martinez and Rizzo who had to be fired.
Guilty
I mean, if Hader had closed it out like he'd done a hundred times, both probably would have been fired. Playoff baseball is chaotic and and somewhat random
think that's very possible.... And think LA would be your world champions right now- I think LA would have killed the Astros with no lefties on the pitching staff- and the pitching would have done well enough IMO.
Oh just **** off.
I'm serious though.... I said if you remember from the start that the winner of our series was going to win the NLCS- and after seeing Houston- I should have said World Series....
Wasn't doing it to be an ass. This time.
this I think is so true what FP Santangelo's son said-
(10-31-2019 03:52 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 03:13 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 01:36 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 12:48 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 12:05 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Guilty
I mean, if Hader had closed it out like he'd done a hundred times, both probably would have been fired. Playoff baseball is chaotic and and somewhat random
think that's very possible.... And think LA would be your world champions right now- I think LA would have killed the Astros with no lefties on the pitching staff- and the pitching would have done well enough IMO.
Oh just **** off.
I'm serious though.... I said if you remember from the start that the winner of our series was going to win the NLCS- and after seeing Houston- I should have said World Series....
Wasn't doing it to be an ass. This time.
I know - I was just teasing cuz I don't need to feel any worse about how close the Dodgers were, yet again.
(10-31-2019 03:54 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]this I think is so true what FP Santangelo's son said-
FP Santangelo is the biggest douche by far in the broadcast business.
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(10-31-2019 04:21 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 03:54 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]this I think is so true what FP Santangelo's son said-
FP Santangelo is the biggest douche by far in the broadcast business.
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he's pretty good IMO. Why do you say that?
(10-31-2019 11:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]With the Nationals victory, this means that the National League has won the decade of the 2010s. From 2010* - 2019, the NL won the World Series over the AL 6-4, with the Giants winning three times and the Cardinals, Cubs, and Nats one each. Had the Astros won, the decade would have been a 5-5 draw. Oh well AL, LOL.
But, this is the first time since the 1960s that the NL has won the decade. In fact, the 1960s and the 2010s are now the only two times that the NL has won a complete decade in the WS era. The 1980s were a 5-5 tie, and the NL did win the first truncated decade of 1903, 1905-1909 by 4-2.
The AL also won a truncated decade in the 1990s, when the WS was only played 9 times, but they won that decade 6-3 so it wouldn't have mattered if the NL had won the missed 1994 WS.
* Please, no pedants claiming the decade 'really' started in 2011 and ends in 2020. Nobody does it that way.
just going to go crazy now these next 61 days with all the best of the decade stuff that you know is coming....
(10-31-2019 05:56 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 04:21 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2019 03:54 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]this I think is so true what FP Santangelo's son said-
FP Santangelo is the biggest douche by far in the broadcast business.
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he's pretty good IMO. Why do you say that?
He was on a Sacramento radio station when I lived there. He used to go on and on against steroids, but guess who showed up on the Mitchell report? He finally admitted he was a user and was fired,
He was the worst kind of abuser, because without steroids, he would have just been an obscure forgotten minor leaguer. His use took some deserving players job. Most of the other users either would have made it or were already there. He is a scumbag. Funny, that he ended up in DC with all the Congressional liars and cheats.
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(10-31-2019 03:54 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]this I think is so true what FP Santangelo's son said-
Yeah, no. They had 3 of the best SP and 3 of the top 20 hitters. They won for the same reason any NBA team wins, star players.