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(09-01-2020 04:10 PM)Bill Wrote: [ -> ]IA St allowing 25,000 fans in for their first game on 9/12.

Wow! Could get interesting, in a bad way. But, hope not. Iowa cases way up.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/politics/...index.html
The Charlotte 49ers season opener Sept. 12 at Appalachian State (noon, ESPN2).

▪ Charlotte’s athletics department reported Tuesday that there were 395 coronavirus tests conducted last week of athletes, coaches and staff with two positives. Since June 10, there have been 1,691 tests with 10 positives for .59% positivity rate.

▪ Charlotte’s game Sept. 19 at North Carolina will have a 3:30 p.m. kickoff on a regional sports network that’s yet to be determined.

▪ Conference USA announced Monday that football players will be tested for the coronavirus three times a week. Also, all game day and operations staff must meet NCAA and C-USA policy guidelines for testing.
And school just sent the email saying they’re shutting down “temporarily”.

JMU Wrote:We started this academic year in the midst of a pandemic that has disrupted all aspects of our lives. We spent the last several months planning to start this year with a mix of in-person, hybrid, and online classes. In the days since students have been back on campus, we have observed their vibrancy, excitement to engage with their faculty, and large-scale adherence to COVID-19 rules and guidance. However, we have also observed troubling public health trends. As a result of a rapid increase in the number of positive cases of COVID-19 in our student population in a short period of time, the university is concerned about capacity in the number of isolation and quarantine spaces we can provide. Protecting the health of our Harrisonburg and Rockingham County community—including students, faculty, staff—is our top priority, and we need to act swiftly to stop the spread as best we can.

After consultation with the Virginia Department of Health, James Madison University will transition to primarily online learning, with some hybrid instruction for accreditation and licensure requirements, graduate research, and specialized upper-class courses requiring equipment and space, through the month of September. Courses currently offered online will continue to be online without any break in instruction. Classes will take place as scheduled for the remainder of this week unless students are otherwise notified by their faculty. In-person classes will transition online no later than this coming Monday, Sept. 7. Additionally, in an effort to reduce the number of people on campus, residents will be asked to return home by Sept. 7 unless they seek an exemption to stay. The Office of Residence life will be in touch with our on-campus residents within the next 24 hours with further details to ensure a smooth departure.

Over the next month, university officials will carefully monitor health trends and other developments, and will be in touch with the campus community by Sept. 25 regarding the possibility of returning to in-person instruction on or after October 5. While courses will move primarily online during this four-week period, the university will remain open, and continue to offer on-campus amenities, such as dining, health and wellness services. Decisions about refunds have not yet been made, but we will communicate with students and families as soon as possible on that topic.

We do not make this decision lightly, especially after all of the efforts on the part of so many people to make the campus environment safe for the return of in-person classes. All along, we understood that we might need to transition to online learning at any moment if circumstances required. Accordingly, our faculty used the summer months to prepare for various contingencies, and they are ready to deploy interactive, engaging and high-quality instruction in the virtual space. Also, the university has recently made significant investments in the technological infrastructure needed to support those efforts, such as acquiring a license with Zoom, a leading virtual meeting tool.

To protect the health and safety of the communities to which students might be returning, students who have been advised to isolate or quarantine should finish out their prescribed time before leaving Harrisonburg. Additionally, as a precaution, students should plan to quarantine for two weeks upon arriving at their destination.

This is a difficult message to deliver, and while it is made in the best interest of public health and safety, we know it will come as a disappointment to many. Others may appreciate this change to engage in online learning given the circumstances. As we planned our in-person reopening this fall, we carefully considered the strength of the relationships that make JMU so special, the interactions between each of us that create such a caring and unique environment. We will all make a concerted effort to maintain and enhance those interactions and to stay connected so we can emerge even stronger as a community that has weathered this unprecedented time together.

In the meantime, our decisions will continue to be guided by public health and educational considerations at every turn. Working together in the finest spirit of JMU, I believe that Dukes can rise to meet this significant challenge.

Warm regards,

Jonathan R. Alger
President, James Madison University
everything is so freaking stupid
Hahaha he’s so proud of the Zoom license. WebEx is poo, for sure.
(09-01-2020 06:42 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]everything is so freaking stupid

I agree with you. So everyone gets it, and now they send everyone back to their families so the more vulnerable can get it. 01-wingedeagle

Let 'em stay and get it out of their system there.
(09-01-2020 05:35 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote: [ -> ]The Charlotte 49ers season opener Sept. 12 at Appalachian State (noon, ESPN2).

▪ Charlotte’s athletics department reported Tuesday that there were 395 coronavirus tests conducted last week of athletes, coaches and staff with two positives. Since June 10, there have been 1,691 tests with 10 positives for .59% positivity rate.

▪ Charlotte’s game Sept. 19 at North Carolina will have a 3:30 p.m. kickoff on a regional sports network that’s yet to be determined.

▪ Conference USA announced Monday that football players will be tested for the coronavirus three times a week. Also, all game day and operations staff must meet NCAA and C-USA policy guidelines for testing.

The CDC's new data broke down a death count of 153,504 from a few weeks ago, saying just 9,210 people had only COVID-19 listed as their only cause of death
(09-01-2020 07:37 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-01-2020 06:42 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]everything is so freaking stupid

I agree with you. So everyone gets it, and now they send everyone back to their families so the more vulnerable can get it. 01-wingedeagle

Let 'em stay and get it out of their system there.

Has also been my view, given they can implement safety protocols and quarantine type measures. The letter seems to suggest they weren’t fully prepared for the volume of cases and don’t believe they have enough quarantine capacity.

What I don’t fully understand is what it takes to convert a dorm into a quarantine zone. If everyone in a dorm is already infected, they can all interact for two-four weeks or whatever and do their studies online, or maybe food delivery, etc is an issue? Or we have too many off-campus students? Think I’ve heard of some schools having up to 50% of their dorms designated as “quarantine” zones.
(09-01-2020 07:37 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-01-2020 06:42 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]everything is so freaking stupid

I agree with you. So everyone gets it, and now they send everyone back to their families so the more vulnerable can get it. 01-wingedeagle

Let 'em stay and get it out of their system there.
First time we've agreed in months
(09-01-2020 08:06 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-01-2020 05:35 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote: [ -> ]The Charlotte 49ers season opener Sept. 12 at Appalachian State (noon, ESPN2).

▪ Charlotte’s athletics department reported Tuesday that there were 395 coronavirus tests conducted last week of athletes, coaches and staff with two positives. Since June 10, there have been 1,691 tests with 10 positives for .59% positivity rate.

▪ Charlotte’s game Sept. 19 at North Carolina will have a 3:30 p.m. kickoff on a regional sports network that’s yet to be determined.

▪ Conference USA announced Monday that football players will be tested for the coronavirus three times a week. Also, all game day and operations staff must meet NCAA and C-USA policy guidelines for testing.

The CDC's new data broke down a death count of 153,504 from a few weeks ago, saying just 9,210 people had only COVID-19 listed as their only cause of death

So what? My cousin was 25 and healthy when he was hit by a pickup truck that had run a red light while he was on his motorcycle. Listed cause of death? Heart failure. His heart only failed because he was hit by an F-150. Statistically, getting crushed by a multi ton vehicle had nothing to do with his death, in the real world, he would likely still be alive today (22 years later) but for that truck. Similarly, people with comorbidities aren’t counted in your number, even though the diabetes, or obesity, or compromised immune system, or high blood pressure wouldn’t have killed them without the covid.

Good god, the lengths some of you will go to in order to deny the seriousness of this thing.
(09-01-2020 07:37 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-01-2020 06:42 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]everything is so freaking stupid

I agree with you. So everyone gets it, and now they send everyone back to their families so the more vulnerable can get it. 01-wingedeagle

Let 'em stay and get it out of their system there.

And the experts agree with you.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...-on-campus
I think it is clear the decision to send them home is as much about getting them off JMU property for legal purposes and out of the local community for PR purposes, as it is about actual safety.
(09-01-2020 08:06 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-01-2020 05:35 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote: [ -> ]The Charlotte 49ers season opener Sept. 12 at Appalachian State (noon, ESPN2).

▪ Charlotte’s athletics department reported Tuesday that there were 395 coronavirus tests conducted last week of athletes, coaches and staff with two positives. Since June 10, there have been 1,691 tests with 10 positives for .59% positivity rate.

▪ Charlotte’s game Sept. 19 at North Carolina will have a 3:30 p.m. kickoff on a regional sports network that’s yet to be determined.

▪ Conference USA announced Monday that football players will be tested for the coronavirus three times a week. Also, all game day and operations staff must meet NCAA and C-USA policy guidelines for testing.

The CDC's new data broke down a death count of 153,504 from a few weeks ago, saying just 9,210 people had only COVID-19 listed as their only cause of death

I have no doubt that a poster that quotes themselves about two different topics likely took false assumptions from the new CDC data.
Total fail by JMU.
JMU's biggest failure was NOT requiring students to submit COVID tests results prior to returning to campus. I know it can be expensive, but how can you stop the spread when you don't even know who is bringing it back to campus.
(09-01-2020 10:41 PM)JMU Wrote: [ -> ]Total fail by JMU.

Terrible decision.
Parents i know with kids there are Furious.
It is about time for someone to suggest that this is all Bourne's fault, he probably wanted students sent home to cover for not getting a football schedule put together for this fall.

05-stirthepot
(09-02-2020 06:44 AM)NC Tribe Wrote: [ -> ]It is about time for someone to suggest that this is all Bourne's fault, he probably wanted students sent home to cover for not getting a football schedule put together for this fall.

05-stirthepot

Lol. This one is on Alger.
(09-02-2020 06:28 AM)JMU2004 Wrote: [ -> ]JMU's biggest failure was NOT requiring students to submit COVID tests results prior to returning to campus. I know it can be expensive, but how can you stop the spread when you don't even know who is bringing it back to campus.

Agree, I thought it was a given they would either do this, or test all students on arrival. Both would have been even better.

I was surprised when someone posted here that they were only testing symptomatic students.

It also sounds like they greatly underestimated needed quarantine capacity.
(09-01-2020 10:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is clear the decision to send them home is as much about getting them off JMU property for legal purposes and out of the local community for PR purposes, as it is about actual safety.

Certainly has that appearance, coming from the President / career lawyer whose specialty has been legal risk reduction.
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