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(07-30-2020 11:40 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 10:21 PM)Purple Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 10:03 PM)JMaddy Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 09:01 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]I would think this would be very good news for JMU

per Brett McMurphy
Conference USA will keep 8-game league schedule & allow schools to play as many nonconference games as they want
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...8402263041

Now JMU can realistically schedule their own Regional-Dream-Bus-Conference Season---
ODU, Marshal, Charlotte. These teams are looking for games after the ACC and SEC announcement of going conference only. (Conference only +1 for the ACC)
If the Sun Belt will do the same, then we could add App State and Coastal. Throw in a few buy-in $$ Big 12 games---Maybe including a bus ride to West Virginia. Hopefully we can keep the UNC game---then maybe Liberty---and JMU has itself an FBS schedule.



JMU has gone ALL-IN with bringing it's athletes back to campus. They gone ALL-IN with covid-19 testing. Madia has regular updates on the success of the testing so far. That's alot of $$$$ JMU has invested in this so far. IMHO, they can't back out now, because, all that planning and money will have been a complete waste, they would have been better off just burning the money invested if they back off now.

JMU seems to have proven they can meet the proper covid-19 protocols---And meeting those covid-19 protocols is a big reason conferences are going with conference-only schedules

conference-only schedules could save fall college football
Easier implementation of universal testing protocols
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...49058765_1

So what if argument's sake we schedule an FBS heavy schedule (6-8 FBS games) and go 8-3 or something crazy like that. What do we do now?

We continue to monitor the situation.

Play in the Orange Bowl!

That would be awesome. Impossible, but awesome. Love your glass-half-full attitude, though.

(07-30-2020 04:13 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: [ -> ]The conference only thing is such a sham.

I agree. What they're saying is, "we don't trust you all will financially prioritize proper CoVID testing and we're not paying for it, so it's just easier to cut you all off".

(07-31-2020 07:37 AM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 04:13 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: [ -> ]The conference only thing is such a sham.

I agree. What they're saying is, "we don't trust you all will financially prioritize proper CoVID testing and we're not paying for it, so it's just easier to cut you all off".

Yep. Here are SEC Commish Sankey's comments from yesterday trying to act like this is about safety (and educational goals)...

"This new plan for a football schedule is consistent with the educational goals of our universities to allow for the safe and orderly return to campus of their student populations and to provide a healthy learning environment during these unique circumstances presented by the COVID-19 virus," Sankey said. "This new schedule supports the safety measures that are being taken by each of our institutions to ensure the health of our campus communities."

"After careful consideration of the public health indicators in our region and following advice of our medical advisors, we have determined that this is the best course of action to prepare for a safe and healthy return to competition for SEC student-athletes, coaches and others associated with our sports programs," said Sankey.

And now for what he really means...

...this is about $$$ and always will be. This is about we need to fulfill TV contract obligations so we can get paid. We have a bunch of fans who give a lot of $$$ to us to attend games and we need their $$$.

(note, if you'd like I can use "$$$" more times to drive my point :>)

And, the ACC isn't any better just because they added a "plus one" non-ACC game. This isn't about safety. It's about $$$.

(07-30-2020 10:21 PM)Purple Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 10:03 PM)JMaddy Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 09:01 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]I would think this would be very good news for JMU

per Brett McMurphy
Conference USA will keep 8-game league schedule & allow schools to play as many nonconference games as they want
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...8402263041

Now JMU can realistically schedule their own Regional-Dream-Bus-Conference Season---
ODU, Marshal, Charlotte. These teams are looking for games after the ACC and SEC announcement of going conference only. (Conference only +1 for the ACC)
If the Sun Belt will do the same, then we could add App State and Coastal. Throw in a few buy-in $$ Big 12 games---Maybe including a bus ride to West Virginia. Hopefully we can keep the UNC game---then maybe Liberty---and JMU has itself an FBS schedule.



JMU has gone ALL-IN with bringing it's athletes back to campus. They gone ALL-IN with covid-19 testing. Madia has regular updates on the success of the testing so far. That's alot of $$$$ JMU has invested in this so far. IMHO, they can't back out now, because, all that planning and money will have been a complete waste, they would have been better off just burning the money invested if they back off now.

JMU seems to have proven they can meet the proper covid-19 protocols---And meeting those covid-19 protocols is a big reason conferences are going with conference-only schedules

conference-only schedules could save fall college football
Easier implementation of universal testing protocols
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...49058765_1

So what if argument's sake we schedule an FBS heavy schedule (6-8 FBS games) and go 8-3 or something crazy like that. What do we do now?

We continue to monitor the situation.

Lol...That is Perfect!!! And it is probably 100% accurate!!

In a perfect world, JMU schedules an FBS heavy schedule, they have success, then use that momentum to springboard to a permanent FBS home.

Not if our leaders don’t want their hands tied like that...

(07-31-2020 07:44 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-31-2020 07:37 AM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-30-2020 04:13 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: [ -> ]The conference only thing is such a sham.

I agree. What they're saying is, "we don't trust you all will financially prioritize proper CoVID testing and we're not paying for it, so it's just easier to cut you all off".

Yep. Here are SEC Commish Sankey's comments from yesterday trying to act like this is about safety (and educational goals)...

"This new plan for a football schedule is consistent with the educational goals of our universities to allow for the safe and orderly return to campus of their student populations and to provide a healthy learning environment during these unique circumstances presented by the COVID-19 virus," Sankey said. "This new schedule supports the safety measures that are being taken by each of our institutions to ensure the health of our campus communities."

"After careful consideration of the public health indicators in our region and following advice of our medical advisors, we have determined that this is the best course of action to prepare for a safe and healthy return to competition for SEC student-athletes, coaches and others associated with our sports programs," said Sankey.

And now for what he really means...

...this is about $$$ and always will be. This is about we need to fulfill TV contract obligations so we can get paid. We have a bunch of fans who give a lot of $$$ to us to attend games and we need their $$$.

(note, if you'd like I can use "$$$" more times to drive my point :>)

And, the ACC isn't any better just because they added a "plus one" non-ACC game. This isn't about safety. It's about $$$.

Yes!!! You are correct!!! ^^^
It's always tried and true to follow the money trail. These P5 conferences have TV contracts to fulfill---and by God, they will do and say whatever they have to, and manipulate by whatever means necessary, to fulfill those TV contracts!!!

But the public face is that this is all about Covid-19 safety and protocols---
The P5 claims that conference-only schedules could save fall college football because it's easier implementation of universal testing protocols.
They will publicly stand by and insist on this claim.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...49058765_1

And that works in JMU's favor. JMU has spent alot of time, money and effort testing players and keeping them safe. Madia has regular updates on how successful JMU testing and protocols have been. JMU is proving they can meet the NCAA standards. So when teams are looking to fill open dates on the schedule---they know JMU will be able uphold the covid-19 protocols

And, a short break for MLB anecdotal info...

...3 of the 5 NL East teams aren't playing this weekend due to COVID-19 related issues. The 2 who are will be facing one another (Mets at Braves for 4 thru Monday). Those 3 who aren't playing also are off on Monday.

At the end of Monday's NYM-ATL game assuming they get them all in, the Mets and Braves will have played 11 games so far with the Fish and Phils having played 3 and the Nats having played 7.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...which btw, is definitely prohibited without written consent by Major League Baseball.

Now the St Louis Cardinals are sick
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2957...oronavirus

And they have not been playing the eastern teams, so this would be a separate source...

You. Have. To. Put. Players. In. A. Bubble. Or. This. Will. Not. Work.

(07-31-2020 10:17 AM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]You. Have. To. Put. Players. In. A. Bubble. Or. This. Will. Not. Work.

It's gonna be fun watching them try to tackle...

Hello, ACC. I know you are all fired up about your new scheduling announcement. Nevermind that the SEC didn't cooperate with your plans. You can work around that.

Buuuuuut, have you planned for when the government (and more specifically the Governors) in some of your states start chiming in - or already have in the case of the state of NY (read: Syracuse)?

1st time caller, I'll drop off and hear your response.


Syracuse will seek exemptions from Gov. Cuomo's travel quarantine, reduce travel party for football... https://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/...tball.html

Syracuse will also significantly reduce its travel party size for football, and Wildhack raised the possibility of implementing a strict, shelter-in-place quarantine at the team hotel when traveling on the road.

...

“I think we need to quarantine anybody in the hotel,” Wildhack said Thursday afternoon on a video call with reporters. “I’m there, I’m not doing a donor dinner, or if I do it, I’ll do it virtually, but you get to the hotel, you stay at the hotel, period.

“I think we need to be that specific and stringent.”

Quick update from the USL:

(07-31-2020 08:51 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]And, a short break for MLB anecdotal info...

...3 of the 5 NL East teams aren't playing this weekend due to COVID-19 related issues. The 2 who are will be facing one another (Mets at Braves for 4 thru Monday). Those 3 who aren't playing also are off on Monday.

At the end of Monday's NYM-ATL game assuming they get them all in, the Mets and Braves will have played 11 games so far with the Fish and Phils having played 3 and the Nats having played 7.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...which btw, is definitely prohibited without written consent by Major League Baseball.

If this is the pros- how can college football work next month?


"Six teams, or 20 percent of MLB, will sit idle Friday due to coronavirus-related postponements."

And we're only in the first week of play.

NBA and NHL may have more success in pod city format. I don't see it for college football.

(07-31-2020 11:18 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]If this is the pros- how can college football work next month?

AD to football players when they contract COVID...

"Ahhhh, you ain't hurt. Just rub some dirt on that virus and get back in there. We've got money we've got to make. Sheesh. These kids today with their long hair, rock 'n roll, and worrying about dying from a pandemic. Why back in my day we ate viruses for breakfast and then walked in 4 feet of mud filled with parasites back and forth to school...and we LIKED it. WE LOVED IT! Kids today...baaaaaaaaaaahhhh, who needs 'em?"

It’s actually better if they get the virus. Just quarantine them for two weeks & then they’re good to go. Just ask Freddie Freeman!

[new] stuff.
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JMU: One positive test result of an asymptomatic player on 7/22 and 12 players were quarantined as part of response to the single positive test. This is in addition to the single positive test and 3 quarantined players from early in July. JMU will have to make the field as an at large as the CAA auto qualifier is out. Chatty, UNC (could be impacted by +1 ACC plan) and Elon are still on, Merrimack is out.
FCS: 7/24 statement said no change currently and will revisit in August. They would accommodate a spring championship if the majority of the schools wanted to move it. Bourne set the threshold at 50%. Factually, 53 teams out of 123 are not playing, but my guess is the Ivy doesn’t count at all, so 45 out of 115. MEAC and SWAC teams probably don’t have a solid foundation to argue on postponing to Spring due to their preference on their national championship. So my educated guess is we are looking at a confirmed 26 teams out of 96 towards the 50% push to Spring.

P5:
ACC: Officially 10 + 1 OOC and the OOC must be played in the school’s home state. ND gets 10 ACC games [new]
Big Ten: Conference only; Rumored to be 9 or 10 game season starting on 9/5 allowing 3-5 open weekends and expect final confirmation by next Friday [new]
Big 12: Playing as planned; Iowa State AD (Jamie Pollard) said Big 12 is still planning on 12 games seasons on 7/29 but excepts they will have to cancel one game and that 1 or 2 opponents will have to cancel. Based on his statement, it appears to be schedule as many as possible to guarantee games. However ESPN is reporting a "source" that say 9 +1 has "gained significant support from the athletic directors" and that the ADs will discuss 4 or 5 different models on Monday [new]
Pac 12: Conference only (10 games) starting after 9/19
SEC: Conference only (10 games) starting after 9/26 [new]

Indys (ND, Liberty, BYU, Army, NM, UMass, UConn): ND is included in the ACC 10+1 plan; BYU has now had 6 games cancelled due to conference only decisions. UMass lost their second game and as it appears, the $1.9M payday from Auburn. I guess the optimistic view is they are also out of the $250k owed to Albany [new]

G5:
AAC: Playing as planned
CUSA: Playing as planned; ”Sources” say the plan as of 7/30 is to get as many games as possible on schedule and that conference schools can play each other a second time as an OOC game[new]
MAC: Playing as planned
MW: Playing as planned
SB: Playing as planned

FCS: NEC is cancelled
Big Sky, 13 teams: Playing as planned; State they will reconvene after the NCAA Board of Governors meet next week[new]
Big South, 6 teams: Playing as planned; Hampton and Monmouth not playing
CAA, 12 teams: Not playing Fall, announced 7/17 - No decision on Spring; JMU and Elon playing
Ivy, 8 teams: Not playing Fall, announced 7/8 – No decision on Spring
MEAC, 9 teams: Not playing Fall, announced 7/16 – No decision on Spring
Missouri Valley, 11 teams: Playing as planned; Officially planning to delay decision as long as possible [new]
Northeast, 7 teams: Not playing fall, announced 7/29 [new]
Ohio Valley, 9 teams: Playing as planned
Patriot, 7 teams: Not playing Fall, announced 7/13
Pioneer, 9 teams: Conference only with season starting after 9/26
Southern, 9 teams: Playing as planned
Southland, 11 teams: Playing as planned
SWAC, 10 teams: Not playing Fall, announced 7/20 – Stated they want to play 7 games in Spring
Indy/Future Big South: Robert Morris and Presbyterian

High School
VA: Football starts practice 2/15/21 and season is 3/1-5/1
Alabama: Playing as planned; A third county/school has cancelled the season and 2 others have delayed the start[new]

Thanks DDD. One correction. JMU has had two CoVID positive athletes (both football).

(07-31-2020 01:11 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks DDD. One correction. JMU has had two CoVID positive athletes (both football).

Yeah I should update that for clarity. I had dropped the first one from the update since it was early July and didn't seem to have any impact at this time.

^ thank you for this work...definitely looks like an effort, and it helps us track the impending doom
Seeing those numbers for reaching 50% for FCS playoffs...as that creeps up it could give us some hope.

Robert Morris and Charleston Southern agree to a game this season, so it sounds like RMU and the remainder of the Big South intend to still try and play.