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With JMU not holding the rescheduled May 2020 graduation ceremonies in August, I can't see a scenario where if we have a fall football season, we will have any fans in attendance.

(07-06-2020 12:14 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]With JMU not holding the rescheduled May 2020 graduation ceremonies in August, I can't see a scenario where if we have a fall football season, we will have any fans in attendance.

That is news to me.

JMU indefinitely postpones rescheduled spring 2020 commencement.
https://www.jmu.edu/news/2020/07/06-comm...oned.shtml

Probably the right call. I think things are gonna break loose over the next two weeks. I did not observe a lot of social distancing over the holiday weekend.

(07-06-2020 02:18 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2020 12:14 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]With JMU not holding the rescheduled May 2020 graduation ceremonies in August, I can't see a scenario where if we have a fall football season, we will have any fans in attendance.

That is news to me.

JMU indefinitely postpones rescheduled spring 2020 commencement.
https://www.jmu.edu/news/2020/07/06-comm...oned.shtml

Probably the right call. I think things are gonna break loose over the next two weeks. I did not observe a lot of social distancing over the holiday weekend.

Hope you are wrong, though agree with the observation. If things do “break loose” that’s a bad sign for fall semester in general for schools. A lot of deep pain will be felt if Virginia schools can’t be open in the fall.

Really hope people improve their behaviors, but it seems like fatigue has set in and many just don’t care now.

Ain't happening......

Top Baseball player in world still does not know if he will play. Nat's and Astros suspend practices. Schools not bringing back full classes. It's just nobody wants to be the first to throw in the towel - at least publicly. All time highs in cases.

No college football in the fall.

US games for Pro team sports in August is far from a lock for Baseball, Basketball, and Hockey.

(07-06-2020 03:22 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]Ain't happening......

Top Baseball player in world still does not know if he will play. Nat's and Astros suspend practices. Schools not bringing back full classes. It's just nobody wants to be the first to throw in the towel - at least publicly. All time highs in cases.

No college football in the fall.

US games for Pro team sports in August is far from a lock for Baseball, Basketball, and Hockey.

As depressing as it is, I have to agree with you. We all hope we're wrong, but if the professional leagues are struggling to keep their players safe, I just don't see any way college football can possibly work. But that said, it looks like they're still moving forward with trying it.

I have not seen it posted yet that Georgia Tech will not require students to wear masks. This is quite a gamble and it will have a huge influence on all institutions as GaTech's results come forward.


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(07-06-2020 06:09 PM)Middle-aged-Duke Wrote: [ -> ]I have not seen it posted yet that Georgia Tech will not require students to wear masks. This is quite a gamble and it will have a huge influence on all institutions as GaTech's results come forward.


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ATL media has reported no mask requirement at GT and not everybody is happy about it.

The ATL mayor has tested positive for covid19.

FC Dallas has been removed from MLS is Back tournament that starts this week. Half of their roster tested positive. They are suspected to have contracted since arriving in Orlando. But who knows really?

(07-06-2020 06:09 PM)Middle-aged-Duke Wrote: [ -> ]I have not seen it posted yet that Georgia Tech will not require students to wear masks. This is quite a gamble and it will have a huge influence on all institutions as GaTech's results come forward.


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After a faculty revolt at GT, the University System of Georgia has reversed course and now requiring masks for all students at institutions within the system (including GT of course).

Yesterday I heard USC (So Cal) will have all on line classes. Does any expect in that scenario - but they would play football?

No one wants to be the first to throw in the towel, but once one does within 2 days the house of cards will fall.

I think I stated something similar back in March but if you look to the future the timeline is pretty bleak and Football will be one of many to fall. If everything in the world goes perfect, who believes that will happen, and a working vaccine is finished in early 2021 that means you can expect a good percentage of Americans to be vaccinated by what? Summer of 2021? So the likely scenario that would play out even in that perfect world is people will try to get back to normal this fall with schools reopening and business reopening. By late Fall when it starts getting cold and people are getting mask fatigue and moving inside more you start to see some major spikes. Winter sports would then be out of the question. Thanksgiving is out, family Christmas celebrations are only for those who aren't interested in what the numbers are saying. You move into 2021 and a vaccine is getting close but Spring sports start practicing in the Winter and they have not been able to do that and there would be limited supplies of vaccines and you'd think athletes will not be at the top of that pecking order so spring sports are stopped for the second time. Then as things start to warm up again and the vaccine becomes more readily available society starts getting back to "normal" mid-Summer 2021.

I think that is our best case scenario at this point outside of the disease getting weaker and not as deadly/debilitating. If this were a football game we are just starting the second qtr it seems. When this started I had posted that we needed to be ready for this to be a long term thing and I thing we are still not even halfway through this yet. I hope I am wrong but I am absolutely not expecting football in the Fall, I would very surprised if there was Basketball in the Winter, and I would not be surprised at all if there was no Softball in the Spring. I think Spring softball is the next reasonable thing that I can look forward to at this point. I just don't see how we get to basketball this winter with no vaccine and infections and deaths continuing to stack up.

I know we all want it sooner but as I wrote 3 months ago, what changes in the next few months that would make winter sports a possibility? There is no chance for a vaccine by then, herd immunity would be very unlikely by then unless something went terribly wrong, and it does not seem as though the disease is getting weaker and going away. If everything goes very well I am hoping for Softball in the Spring or football camps in the Summer but I can't see a reality that would get us anything before that.

(07-06-2020 07:40 PM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]FC Dallas has been removed from MLS is Back tournament that starts this week. Half of their roster tested positive. They are suspected to have contracted since arriving in Orlando. But who knows really?

I came here to say this news. It's crazy that entire pro sports teams are so CoVID positive they have to just make the difficult decision to not participate in the season. I agree with their call, but it's still tough.

This is going to be a reality for CFB and NFL teams trying to play this fall. It's just not going to happen in anything resembling a normal fashion. IMO, the best decision the NCAA can make as soon as possible is to just postpone the start of the CFB season until at least late march 2021.

https://theathletic.com/1911122/2020/07/...vy-league/

The Athletic is reporting the Ivy League will be moving all of its fall sports to the spring, including football.

There it is. The first domino.

(07-07-2020 08:46 AM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2020 07:40 PM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]FC Dallas has been removed from MLS is Back tournament that starts this week. Half of their roster tested positive. They are suspected to have contracted since arriving in Orlando. But who knows really?

I came here to say this news. It's crazy that entire pro sports teams are so CoVID positive they have to just make the difficult decision to not participate in the season. I agree with their call, but it's still tough.

This is going to be a reality for CFB and NFL teams trying to play this fall. It's just not going to happen in anything resembling a normal fashion. IMO, the best decision the NCAA can make as soon as possible is to just postpone the start of the CFB season until at least late march 2021.

Yep. Atlanta Braves stud Freddie Freeman contracted COVID-19 and reportedly is pretty darn sick. Not life-threatening per se, but certainly not asymptomatic either. This led to Braves reserve outfielder and longtime vet, Nick Markakis, to opt out of playing in this upcoming 60-game shortened season. Lots of other MLB players are opting out every day. I expect we'll see more of that. It will be interesting to see what happens (hope it doesn't of course) when the first manager/coach/umpire contracts COVID-19 and goes deathly ill. Again, hope it doesn't happen, but odds are it will at some point. Same for the NFL on the horizon.

No minor league baseball, though with guys opting out and expanded rosters it provides the opportunity for a lot of guys who were previously knocking on the door of being called up to get that chance now. I won't be surprised when it comes to CFB if we see 4 of the 5 P5's move forward with playing, most if not all of the G5's playing, maybe a sprinkling of D1AA conferences playing, and everybody else postponed to spring. I'm getting closer every day to where Dukester has been for weeks I admit, but still too much of my background in the deep south, knowing the culture, and importance of CFB to society for me still to yet expect the SEC, for example, to shut things down...same for the Big12-2, most of the ACC, etc.

(07-07-2020 09:14 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]I won't be surprised when it comes to CFB if we see 4 of the 5 P5's move forward with playing, most if not all of the G5's playing, maybe a sprinkling of D1AA conferences playing, and everybody else postponed to spring. I'm getting closer every day to where Dukester has been for weeks I admit, but still too much of my background in the deep south, knowing the culture, and importance of CFB to society for me still to yet expect the SEC, for example, to shut things down...same for the Big12-2, most of the ACC, etc.

This is my guess also. Its not clear any of them will finish the season or be able to hold bowl games and playoffs, but I do think at least some P5 conferences will push forward to start. All the things I see/hear/read suggests they intend to hold games, at least until they can't. Could see the PAC waiting till spring like the Ivy or canceling.

Some of this may be regional in nature. MAC is more likely to delay or cancel than SBC in my mind for instance. CAA is interesting because of the mix of Northeastern schools along with mid-atlantic. My belief is regional conditions along with local politics will have an influence on school decisions. Conference decisions likely reflect the majority position of their member schools.

Let's face it: Fall football would be a total cluster this year. Fans will stay away in droves. Players will have to be constantly tested, and many will test positive. Some teams will refuse to play at all, while others will do so. Schedules will be totally screwed up as a result. The optics of teams playing “live” games while actual academics are consigned to online status are horrible. Who wants all that? Move it all to the spring.

(07-07-2020 09:28 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: [ -> ]Let's face it: Fall football would be a total cluster this year. Fans will stay away in droves. Players will have to be constantly tested, and many will test positive. Some teams will refuse to play at all, while others will do so. Schedules will be totally screwed up as a result. The optics of teams playing “live” games while actual academics are consigned to online status are horrible. Who wants all that? Move it all to the spring.

I thought the NCAA had stated that there will be no athletics if students are not on-campus for actual 'real' college.

(07-07-2020 09:28 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: [ -> ]Let's face it: Fall football would be a total cluster this year. Fans will stay away in droves. Players will have to be constantly tested, and many will test positive. Some teams will refuse to play at all, while others will do so. Schedules will be totally screwed up as a result. The optics of teams playing “live” games while actual academics are consigned to online status are horrible. Who wants all that? Move it all to the spring.

I agree with you. Let me say that again...I agree with you. Having said that, as I said 2-3 months ago when discussing this subject in another thread, never underestimate (not that you are) that in certain parts of this country the optics of "not playing" are just as strong. In other words, I don't think in some areas they give a crapola about optics as far as whether regular students are in session, on campus, and the football team is playing. I want to see the Governor of Alabama, for instance, tell the citizens of that state that Tide and War Eagle football will be canceled due to students not being on campus...if that be the case (or any other reason for that matter). That should be interesting to watch if it comes down to that scenario. I picked Alabama for the obvious, but that state isn't alone.

I think some university presidents and AD's are waiting on state government officials (read: governors) to perhaps make their life easier by making a stand one way or the other...and, in some states take the fall for their decisions if highly unpopular. Some leaders' mettle are going to be tested in a big way when it comes to the potential decision of shutting down CFB. Yes, it has grown that big...again, in certain states (not just in the deep south, btw). e.g., is the Governor of Ohio going to shut down the Buckeyes when the SEC, ACC and Big 12-2 are all forging ahead? I want to watch that scenario if it plays out that way. It will take nads or nips of steel to make a decision like that. At minimum, could be political suicide (though may be the right decision).

(07-07-2020 10:07 AM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2020 09:28 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: [ -> ]Let's face it: Fall football would be a total cluster this year. Fans will stay away in droves. Players will have to be constantly tested, and many will test positive. Some teams will refuse to play at all, while others will do so. Schedules will be totally screwed up as a result. The optics of teams playing “live” games while actual academics are consigned to online status are horrible. Who wants all that? Move it all to the spring.

I thought the NCAA had stated that there will be no athletics if students are not on-campus for actual 'real' college.

No matter what they say, the NCAA doesn't run college FB. The P5 does. I think the NCAA said that more as a "preference". If they want to play FB in the SEC/ACC/Big12-2, they will do it no matter what the NCAA says. Not trying to be overly dramatic, just the truth really.

Completely off-topic I admit, but I did find this interesting...

...just hitting the news wires that the Brazilian President has contracted COVID-19.

And the reaction by the world?...



This news kind of reminds me of the ending of the movie Animal House when they inform Otter that the entire Delta House has been kicked off campus and his reply...

..."well, that makes sense."

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