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(07-31-2020 12:08 PM)HyperDuke Wrote: [ -> ]It’s actually better if they get the virus. Just quarantine them for two weeks & then they’re good to go. Just ask Freddie Freeman!

I heard from some dude on the internet with no proof that this is why teams I think are front loading their cases right now. Because once someone gets COVID, that's the end of th

Are coronavirus reinfections a true concern? Experts say it’s unlikely, but immunity is still an open question

What's that? We don't have enough data to make sweeping generalizations about how this disease works yet? Flabbergasted.
(07-31-2020 02:57 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]Robert Morris and Charleston Southern agree to a game this season, so it sounds like RMU and the remainder of the Big South intend to still try and play.

Robert Morris scheduled a body bag game with Hawaii, as soon as an opening popped up in Hawaii's schedule---Then after the NEC cancels their season (RMU was a former NEC member, and they're playing as an Independent this year, so they originally had an NEC schedule) RMU goes out and immediately schedules a game with a Big South team. (RMU will be joining the Big South next year).

Every Big South team (5 teams) needs games. RMU needs games, Elon needs games---there's 7 games right there---
I have been advocating a scheduling arrangement with the Big South for weeks. It's an easy fix---probably too obvious and easy!!
As DDD said, " I mean literally just Ctrl F and replace Monmouth with JMU and boom your scheduling conflicts are done"---And Ctrl F Elon with Hampton.

The silence right now is deafening. Maybe it's just my impatience to actually see something. But I hope JMU is making big plans!!! After all the money $$$$, time and effort they've spent bringing these kids back and implementing these covid-19 protocols and standards---I hope they don't play it safe and back down!!!!

I hope they're going with an FBS heavy schedule. After what the CUSA said yesterday---per Brett McMurphy Conference USA will keep 8-game league schedule & allow schools to play as many non conference games as they want.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...8402263041

It still looks like the Big12 will be looking for body-bag games
Quote:
"Bourne said JMU is more open minded than ever when it comes to securing opponents for this fall, and that he’d prefer to schedule road games accessible by bus instead of airplane to keep costs down. Both Bourne and Cignetti said multiple dates with FBS foes are on the table."

As DDD said,
That costs comes into play when finding an FCS opponent, but it shouldn't really come into play with a FBS payday game. You jump on a plane for a Big 12 payday versus a bus down to Campbell if you care about the bottom line.
THIS ^^^^ IS SOOOO TRUE!!!!!

I believe JMU is waiting on the NCAA announcement regarding a fall postseason (The NCAA is meeting again on Tues Aug 4th to discuss this subject) before they make a final decision on a 2020 season.

If JMU uses the NCAA as cover to bail on a season---this will be unacceptable!!! Especially if there is in fact a 2020 fall football season. They would irreparably destroy the brand they've built. JMU would no longer be able to sell the fanbase and recruits that they're really an FBS/G5 caliber program.
I fear that if the NCAA says they will move the fall championships to the spring, that JMU would jump all over that scenario. Imagine if other FCS school decided to play in the fall regardless of the fact that the fall postseason was moved to the spring?!?!?!?! But it would be just like JMU to let NDSU, Weber State, S Dakota, Montana, Montana State, etc go forward with a season, so we could beat up on some rag-tag field of teams playing in the spring.

JMU should play a season no matter what---whether it's an FCS heavy schedule, FBS heavy schedule, or a mix of both, and regardless if there are FCS playoffs or not. If say, 50 FCS teams play---and it looks like the MVFC, Big Sky, OVC, Big South, SoCon, at least, will play---who cares if there is an FCS playoffs or not!!! Having an FCS playoffs is absolutely meaningless in deciding whether to play a season or not
(07-31-2020 03:38 PM)bjk3047 Wrote: [ -> ]What's that? We don't have enough data to make sweeping generalizations about how this disease works yet? Flabbergasted.

I got my MD in epidemiology at Google U! How dare you question me!
Another quick update from the MLB:

(07-31-2020 04:07 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-31-2020 02:57 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]Robert Morris and Charleston Southern agree to a game this season, so it sounds like RMU and the remainder of the Big South intend to still try and play.

Robert Morris scheduled a body bag game with Hawaii, as soon as an opening popped up in Hawaii's schedule---Then after the NEC cancels their season (RMU was a former NEC member, and they're playing as an Independent this year, so they originally had an NEC schedule) RMU goes out and immediately schedules a game with a Big South team. (RMU will be joining the Big South next year).

Every Big South team (5 teams) needs games. RMU needs games, Elon needs games---there's 7 games right there---
I have been advocating a scheduling arrangement with the Big South for weeks. It's an easy fix---probably too obvious and easy!!
As DDD said, " I mean literally just Ctrl F and replace Monmouth with JMU and boom your scheduling conflicts are done"---And Ctrl F Elon with Hampton.

The silence right now is deafening. Maybe it's just my impatience to actually see something. But I hope JMU is making big plans!!! After all the money $$$$, time and effort they've spent bringing these kids back and implementing these covid-19 protocols and standards---I hope they don't play it safe and back down!!!!

I hope they're going with an FBS heavy schedule. After what the CUSA said yesterday---per Brett McMurphy Conference USA will keep 8-game league schedule & allow schools to play as many non conference games as they want.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...8402263041

It still looks like the Big12 will be looking for body-bag games
Quote:
"Bourne said JMU is more open minded than ever when it comes to securing opponents for this fall, and that he’d prefer to schedule road games accessible by bus instead of airplane to keep costs down. Both Bourne and Cignetti said multiple dates with FBS foes are on the table."

As DDD said,
That costs comes into play when finding an FCS opponent, but it shouldn't really come into play with a FBS payday game. You jump on a plane for a Big 12 payday versus a bus down to Campbell if you care about the bottom line.
THIS ^^^^ IS SOOOO TRUE!!!!!

I believe JMU is waiting on the NCAA announcement regarding a fall postseason (The NCAA is meeting again on Tues Aug 4th to discuss this subject) before they make a final decision on a 2020 season.

If JMU uses the NCAA as cover to bail on a season---this will be unacceptable!!! Especially if there is in fact a 2020 fall football season. They would irreparably destroy the brand they've built. JMU would no longer be able to sell the fanbase and recruits that they're really an FBS/G5 caliber program.
I fear that if the NCAA says they will move the fall championships to the spring, that JMU would jump all over that scenario. Imagine if other FCS school decided to play in the fall regardless of the fact that the fall postseason was moved to the spring?!?!?!?! But it would be just like JMU to let NDSU, Weber State, S Dakota, Montana, Montana State, etc go forward with a season, so we could beat up on some rag-tag field of teams playing in the spring.

JMU should play a season no matter what---whether it's an FCS heavy schedule, FBS heavy schedule, or a mix of both, and regardless if there are FCS playoffs or not. If say, 50 FCS teams play---and it looks like the MVFC, Big Sky, OVC, Big South, SoCon, at least, will play---who cares if there is an FCS playoffs or not!!! Having an FCS playoffs is absolutely meaningless in deciding whether to play a season or not

Good information that the next NCAA meeting is on Tuesday. As I mentioned earlier this week, they need to make a decision and make it soon. Hopefully a decision and announcement will be made on Tuesday. I would be surprised if they decide to hold the playoffs in the fall.

It may not affect JMU, but if the NCAA announces that the FCS playoffs are being postponed until the spring, then I think some of those FCS teams and conferences will switch their season to the spring too. To me, it is hard to know our FCS opponents until that decision is made. MLB mess must be making teams think of postponing too.
Call me a conspiracy theorists----But it all becomes clearer. And my grave fear is that this was a set up for us JMU fans all along.

Last Friday was supposed to be "D-Day" for the NCAA. They were supposed to issue a decision regarding fall sports championships. But a few days before that meeting the, The NCAA football oversight committee asked the association’s Board of Governors to avoid making a decision soon on whether to conduct fall championships as college sports tries to find a path to play through the pandemic.
https://apnews.com/335e6d5e7ee94eeb9e1dd...ce=Twitter

But the NCAA was asked to delay their decision. This was the cover the P5 was looking for so they could put their house in order. Then in the next week, four of the P5 schools have come out with their conference only schemes. The P5 didn't want the NCAA making them look bad by cancelling the fall postseasons, before the P5 had been able to get out in front of whatever decision the NCAA makes.
Now the NCAA will meet on Tuesday to issue (in all probability) the cancellation of the fall post seasons. And who will be paying any attention---the P5 already overwhelmed the room with their conference only shams.

Remember, Bourne said, JMU still plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play.This was the SELF-SABOTAGE!!!! that Bourne built into his statement. JMU was always banking on the NCAA cancelling fall post-seasons, so they could give the fans the appearance of giving it the "Old-College-Try"----'But too bad, it's out of our hands because the NCAA canceled the post-season----And like we always said, we would only play fall sports if there was a postseason.' !!!!!!!!What a crock of bull!!!!

If JMU does this, we will see for good what suckers we've always been. Like I've posted before---JMU is happy with the model they've built. The premier brand of the FCS (Next to NDSU), a bigger, better brand than MOST G5 schools, a brand with a tremendously high profile that brings exposure to the school through the athletic department, a beautiful campus---They can sell it all to recruits, who have G5 caliber, and out recruit those G5 schools. They can sell it to the fan base, and always keep us on the hook with promises of FBS dreams---And best of all they can do it and have complete control over the student fees!!!---Why would they ever want to move up to FBS, and struggle along with the App State's and Marshall's of the world?? It was a wonderful model that they built. And in all truthfulness, I could live with it, even though I know I was getting played

But if JMU goes and plays an FBS heavy or FBS light schedule and has success, then how do they keep stringing everyone along with future FBS dreams?? And forget about the fact they do it to the fans, believe me---They do it to the recruits too!!! They'll have to make good on all their promises. And believe me, they really don't want to do that because--- THAT IS NOT the model they've built

But the BIG problem for JMU is that they MUST play this season, and start to make good on promises they really never intended to fulfill, because if they take a pass on a 2020 fall football season, and other FCS teams play---The brand is crushed beyond salvation. It becomes laughing stock status when your athletic budget is 63rd in the nation, you outspend most G5 programs, but your gonna let these G5 programs, and little FCS programs play?!?!---when those programs are gonna need games!!! When RMU, and S. Illinois, and Charleston, and Missouri State, etc are filling up open P5, G5 and FCS dates!!!

If JMU cancels their season, look for the transfer portal to light up, look for coaches to look for greener pastures, look for recruits to open their recruitment.
Cignetti on potential schedule: "I think in the ideal situation, we're looking at multiple FBS games and then filling in with FCS."
https://twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports/stat...4129225728
Well, I believe and trust Cignetti. And the potential he talked about is becoming a reality. But the administration can ignore that reality because Bourne already built the self-sabotage into his statement---JMU still plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play. The trap door has already been built to make the grand escape, and leave us looking like suckers

I hope the NCAA calls bluff and decides to go through with some type of fall postseason. Even if the NCAA cancels, I hope, at least, many FCS teams soldier on with a season---and the type of embarrassment the Mighty JMU will suffer when all these other little FCS teams decide to play, forces JMU's hand, and they have to play. The fact that these G5 teams (ODU, Marshall, Charlotte, Coastal) that JMU outspends and scoffs at, are gonna play, should be enough to force JMU's hand

And what's this---Madia retweeting covid-19 updates about UVA?!?! Has Madia gotten the word already, that his JMU football beat is over for 2020?!?!
https://twitter.com/BennettConlin/status...2658526211
The NCAA cancelling fall championships would only affect the P5 in Olympic sports. The CFP isn't run by the NCAA, it's run by the P5 and G5 conferences. Emmert doesn't even have a seat at the table. Technically the NCAA doesn't award a National Championship in FBS football.

I still believe that the NCAA is holding out so they don't get penalized by Disney/ABC/ESPN for breach of contract. The NCAA holds the TV rights to the fall postseason championships, minus the CFP; the winter sports championships, including March Madness; and the spring sports championships.
(07-31-2020 06:27 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]The NCAA cancelling fall championships would only affect the P5 in Olympic sports. The CFP isn't run by the NCAA, it's run by the P5 and G5 conferences. Emmert doesn't even have a seat at the table. Technically the NCAA doesn't award a National Championship in FBS football.

I still believe that the NCAA is holding out so they don't get penalized by Disney/ABC/ESPN for breach of contract. The NCAA holds the TV rights to the fall postseason championships, minus the CFP; the winter sports championships, including March Madness; and the spring sports championships.

No---the CFP is not run by the NCAA---The fact is that it's optics, it's politics. Most of the general public "THINKS" the NCAA runs college sports. So if the NCAA moves forward and cancels it's fall postseason---that gets reported and the general public consumes it, and the general public "THINKS" the NCAA has canceled football playoffs. The P5 did NOT want that LOOK----so the he NCAA football oversight committee asked the association’s Board of Governors to avoid making a decision soon
https://apnews.com/335e6d5e7ee94eeb9e1dd...ce=Twitter

The P5 needed the NCAA to delay it's decision, so the P5 could come out with it's conference only shams, out in front of any NCAA decision. Now when the NCAA (in all probability cancels) the fall postseason nobody is paying attention. the only people paying attention or caring are FCS fans, soccer fans, volleyball fans, and whatever other fall sports are played.

The general public does NOT care because all they know now is that they're gonna get their beloved P5 games on TV in the fall.

That is how a conspiracy works---DUH!!!!!
Sorry, I got lost in the middle of your post and must have missed some of your finer points. Thanks for ironing that out for me! *puts on tin foil hat*
Looks like things will become clearer in the next 7-10 days on where the FCS stands on the fall season. With the CAA out, I'd expect MVFC and Big Sky decisions to have a lot of influence. Those three tend to land the most playoff bids. I would think SoCon, BigSouth, OVC and SLC will follow their lead.

If MVFC and Big Sky drop, I'd prefer to just see us load up on FBS games.



This is an opinion tweet, but I think it's worth posting here.

That tweet related to the MLB commissioner made me laugh when I first saw it. Is that your job to.... wait for it... lead?

What exactly are you being paid for?
(07-31-2020 06:42 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]No---the CFP is not run by the NCAA---The fact is that it's optics, it's politics. Most of the general public "THINKS" the NCAA runs college sports. So if the NCAA moves forward and cancels it's fall postseason---that gets reported and the general public consumes it, and the general public "THINKS" the NCAA has canceled football playoffs. The P5 did NOT want that LOOK----so the he NCAA football oversight committee asked the association’s Board of Governors to avoid making a decision soon
https://apnews.com/335e6d5e7ee94eeb9e1dd...ce=Twitter

The P5 needed the NCAA to delay it's decision, so the P5 could come out with it's conference only shams, out in front of any NCAA decision. Now when the NCAA (in all probability cancels) the fall postseason nobody is paying attention. the only people paying attention or caring are FCS fans, soccer fans, volleyball fans, and whatever other fall sports are played.

The general public does NOT care because all they know now is that they're gonna get their beloved P5 games on TV in the fall.

That is how a conspiracy works---DUH!!!!!

Wow DukeThaDawg, you've got a point here. It probably was the P5 who demanded they wait to announce the cancellation of fall championships so they can get their "hey guys we're still playing, here are our statements and schedules. Make sure the Media runs with it for at least a week" statements out there.

John Q Public is pretty stupid, in case we didn't learn that before the past 4 and a half months. If they cancelled first, they would've assumed the whole fall season, even the P5, was over and not bother to tune in on the TV. Disney obviously hates that idea.

Now where is my tin foil hat. They're starting to hear my thoughts.
(07-31-2020 06:13 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]Call me a conspiracy theorists----But it all becomes clearer. And my grave fear is that this was a set up for us JMU fans all along.

Last Friday was supposed to be "D-Day" for the NCAA. They were supposed to issue a decision regarding fall sports championships. But a few days before that meeting the, The NCAA football oversight committee asked the association’s Board of Governors to avoid making a decision soon on whether to conduct fall championships as college sports tries to find a path to play through the pandemic.
https://apnews.com/335e6d5e7ee94eeb9e1dd...ce=Twitter

But the NCAA was asked to delay their decision. This was the cover the P5 was looking for so they could put their house in order. Then in the next week, four of the P5 schools have come out with their conference only schemes. The P5 didn't want the NCAA making them look bad by cancelling the fall postseasons, before the P5 had been able to get out in front of whatever decision the NCAA makes.
Now the NCAA will meet on Tuesday to issue (in all probability) the cancellation of the fall post seasons. And who will be paying any attention---the P5 already overwhelmed the room with their conference only shams.

Remember, Bourne said, JMU still plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play.This was the SELF-SABOTAGE!!!! that Bourne built into his statement. JMU was always banking on the NCAA cancelling fall post-seasons, so they could give the fans the appearance of giving it the "Old-College-Try"----'But too bad, it's out of our hands because the NCAA canceled the post-season----And like we always said, we would only play fall sports if there was a postseason.' !!!!!!!!What a crock of bull!!!!

If JMU does this, we will see for good what suckers we've always been. Like I've posted before---JMU is happy with the model they've built. The premier brand of the FCS (Next to NDSU), a bigger, better brand than MOST G5 schools, a brand with a tremendously high profile that brings exposure to the school through the athletic department, a beautiful campus---They can sell it all to recruits, who have G5 caliber, and out recruit those G5 schools. They can sell it to the fan base, and always keep us on the hook with promises of FBS dreams---And best of all they can do it and have complete control over the student fees!!!---Why would they ever want to move up to FBS, and struggle along with the App State's and Marshall's of the world?? It was a wonderful model that they built. And in all truthfulness, I could live with it, even though I know I was getting played

But if JMU goes and plays an FBS heavy or FBS light schedule and has success, then how do they keep stringing everyone along with future FBS dreams?? And forget about the fact they do it to the fans, believe me---They do it to the recruits too!!! They'll have to make good on all their promises. And believe me, they really don't want to do that because--- THAT IS NOT the model they've built

But the BIG problem for JMU is that they MUST play this season, and start to make good on promises they really never intended to fulfill, because if they take a pass on a 2020 fall football season, and other FCS teams play---The brand is crushed beyond salvation. It becomes laughing stock status when your athletic budget is 63rd in the nation, you outspend most G5 programs, but your gonna let these G5 programs, and little FCS programs play?!?!---when those programs are gonna need games!!! When RMU, and S. Illinois, and Charleston, and Missouri State, etc are filling up open P5, G5 and FCS dates!!!

If JMU cancels their season, look for the transfer portal to light up, look for coaches to look for greener pastures, look for recruits to open their recruitment.
Cignetti on potential schedule: "I think in the ideal situation, we're looking at multiple FBS games and then filling in with FCS."
https://twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports/stat...4129225728
Well, I believe and trust Cignetti. And the potential he talked about is becoming a reality. But the administration can ignore that reality because Bourne already built the self-sabotage into his statement---JMU still plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play. The trap door has already been built to make the grand escape, and leave us looking like suckers

I hope the NCAA calls bluff and decides to go through with some type of fall postseason. Even if the NCAA cancels, I hope, at least, many FCS teams soldier on with a season---and the type of embarrassment the Mighty JMU will suffer when all these other little FCS teams decide to play, forces JMU's hand, and they have to play. The fact that these G5 teams (ODU, Marshall, Charlotte, Coastal) that JMU outspends and scoffs at, are gonna play, should be enough to force JMU's hand

And what's this---Madia retweeting covid-19 updates about UVA?!?! Has Madia gotten the word already, that his JMU football beat is over for 2020?!?!
https://twitter.com/BennettConlin/status...2658526211

Bold above>>>Every Bourne comment from 15 years has a self-sabotage statement.

Look it up. Bourne's comments about a regional G5 conference include a self sabotage. He said JMU could be interested in a regional G5 conference if the G5 has moved to a playoff platform.

So even if a regional G5 conference forms JMU has a built in out clause.

It's all bull sh#t and we enable it every time we donate to the DC and attend games against norfolk state and who even knows in the future, it is only getting worse because of the yard stick rule.
STL-MIL game postponed for Saturday night as well.

Check out this from ESPN... https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2957...oronavirus

...and this statement...

Networks broadcasting MLB games have been alerted to look at possible alternate programming after this weekend should the league shut down, sources told ESPN's Keith Olbermann.
(08-01-2020 11:51 AM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-31-2020 06:13 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]Call me a conspiracy theorists----But it all becomes clearer. And my grave fear is that this was a set up for us JMU fans all along.

Last Friday was supposed to be "D-Day" for the NCAA. They were supposed to issue a decision regarding fall sports championships. But a few days before that meeting the, The NCAA football oversight committee asked the association’s Board of Governors to avoid making a decision soon on whether to conduct fall championships as college sports tries to find a path to play through the pandemic.
https://apnews.com/335e6d5e7ee94eeb9e1dd...ce=Twitter

But the NCAA was asked to delay their decision. This was the cover the P5 was looking for so they could put their house in order. Then in the next week, four of the P5 schools have come out with their conference only schemes. The P5 didn't want the NCAA making them look bad by cancelling the fall postseasons, before the P5 had been able to get out in front of whatever decision the NCAA makes.
Now the NCAA will meet on Tuesday to issue (in all probability) the cancellation of the fall post seasons. And who will be paying any attention---the P5 already overwhelmed the room with their conference only shams.

Remember, Bourne said, JMU still plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play.This was the SELF-SABOTAGE!!!! that Bourne built into his statement. JMU was always banking on the NCAA cancelling fall post-seasons, so they could give the fans the appearance of giving it the "Old-College-Try"----'But too bad, it's out of our hands because the NCAA canceled the post-season----And like we always said, we would only play fall sports if there was a postseason.' !!!!!!!!What a crock of bull!!!!

If JMU does this, we will see for good what suckers we've always been. Like I've posted before---JMU is happy with the model they've built. The premier brand of the FCS (Next to NDSU), a bigger, better brand than MOST G5 schools, a brand with a tremendously high profile that brings exposure to the school through the athletic department, a beautiful campus---They can sell it all to recruits, who have G5 caliber, and out recruit those G5 schools. They can sell it to the fan base, and always keep us on the hook with promises of FBS dreams---And best of all they can do it and have complete control over the student fees!!!---Why would they ever want to move up to FBS, and struggle along with the App State's and Marshall's of the world?? It was a wonderful model that they built. And in all truthfulness, I could live with it, even though I know I was getting played

But if JMU goes and plays an FBS heavy or FBS light schedule and has success, then how do they keep stringing everyone along with future FBS dreams?? And forget about the fact they do it to the fans, believe me---They do it to the recruits too!!! They'll have to make good on all their promises. And believe me, they really don't want to do that because--- THAT IS NOT the model they've built

But the BIG problem for JMU is that they MUST play this season, and start to make good on promises they really never intended to fulfill, because if they take a pass on a 2020 fall football season, and other FCS teams play---The brand is crushed beyond salvation. It becomes laughing stock status when your athletic budget is 63rd in the nation, you outspend most G5 programs, but your gonna let these G5 programs, and little FCS programs play?!?!---when those programs are gonna need games!!! When RMU, and S. Illinois, and Charleston, and Missouri State, etc are filling up open P5, G5 and FCS dates!!!

If JMU cancels their season, look for the transfer portal to light up, look for coaches to look for greener pastures, look for recruits to open their recruitment.
Cignetti on potential schedule: "I think in the ideal situation, we're looking at multiple FBS games and then filling in with FCS."
https://twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports/stat...4129225728
Well, I believe and trust Cignetti. And the potential he talked about is becoming a reality. But the administration can ignore that reality because Bourne already built the self-sabotage into his statement---JMU still plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play. The trap door has already been built to make the grand escape, and leave us looking like suckers

I hope the NCAA calls bluff and decides to go through with some type of fall postseason. Even if the NCAA cancels, I hope, at least, many FCS teams soldier on with a season---and the type of embarrassment the Mighty JMU will suffer when all these other little FCS teams decide to play, forces JMU's hand, and they have to play. The fact that these G5 teams (ODU, Marshall, Charlotte, Coastal) that JMU outspends and scoffs at, are gonna play, should be enough to force JMU's hand

And what's this---Madia retweeting covid-19 updates about UVA?!?! Has Madia gotten the word already, that his JMU football beat is over for 2020?!?!
https://twitter.com/BennettConlin/status...2658526211

Bold above>>>Every Bourne comment from 15 years has a self-sabotage statement.

Look it up. Bourne's comments about a regional G5 conference include a self sabotage. He said JMU could be interested in a regional G5 conference if the G5 has moved to a playoff platform.

So even if a regional G5 conference forms JMU has a built in out clause.

It's all bull sh#t and we enable it every time we donate to the DC and attend games against norfolk state and who even knows in the future, it is only getting worse because of the yard stick rule.

I know I'm beating a dead horse---but if Bourne really pulls the plug on this season when the G5 schools and some FCS schools play---this will be unacceptable!!!

JMU is 63rd in the nation in total revenue and expenses for it's athletic department---I know it's mainly student fees---but they take in what they take in and they spend what they spend. ONLY 10 G5 programs have higher revenue/expenses than JMU---ONLY 10
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

When JMU hires a coach---one of the selling points is that-- 'This job is better than most G5'. When they recruit football players---one of the selling points is that--JMU can compete with any G5 school'

Well, that all ends if JMU uses the NCAA cancelling fall sports as a cover to bail on their season. All these claims of being better than most G5 schools
vanishes in an instant. JMU has built this aura of a top program, just waiting for the FBS call-up, that FBS programs were afraid of them because they could compete at their level.
Well, the time is calling---The fact that these G5 teams (ODU, Marshall, Charlotte, Coastal) that JMU outspends and scoffs at, are gonna play, should be enough to force JMU's hand to play
(07-31-2020 06:13 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]And what's this---Madia retweeting covid-19 updates about UVA?!?! Has Madia gotten the word already, that his JMU football beat is over for 2020?!?!
https://twitter.com/BennettConlin/status...2658526211

Bennett is a recent JMU grad who reports sports for one of the nearest universities to JMU. What UVA is doing to deal with coronavirus with their sports is of interest to a lot of people in the Shenandoah Valley. I think your tin foil hat is a little too tight 04-cheers
(08-01-2020 02:48 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-31-2020 06:13 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote: [ -> ]And what's this---Madia retweeting covid-19 updates about UVA?!?! Has Madia gotten the word already, that his JMU football beat is over for 2020?!?!
https://twitter.com/BennettConlin/status...2658526211

Bennett is a recent JMU grad who reports sports for one of the nearest universities to JMU. What UVA is doing to deal with coronavirus with their sports is of interest to a lot of people in the Shenandoah Valley. I think your tin foil hat is a little too tight 04-cheers

Have your laughs by focusing on a little throw away comment I make at the end of a long post.

But it's not tin foil hat territory to say, It is a fact that the NCAA football oversight committee asked the association’s Board of Governors to avoid making a decision soon on whether to conduct fall championships as college sports tries to find a path to play through the pandemic.
https://apnews.com/335e6d5e7ee94eeb9e1dd...ce=Twitter

That was done so the P5's could implement their conference only shams without the optics or politics of going forward when the NCAA is cancelling things. Yes---the NCAA does not control the CFP---but the P5 wanted the NCAA to stay clear until they could forge a clear path for themselves. Now the NCAA can go ahead and cancel everything---the P5 has already set their course for the 2020 football season.

I hope my tin foil hat conspiracies, about how Bourne is playing us all for a bunch of fools are wrong. But right now, I think he is salivating over the NCAA cancelling the FCS playoffs, and taking him off the hook about deciding to play a 2020 season or not.

We will find out on Tuesday when the NCCA meets, whether or not the 2020 post season is on. If it's cancelled will Bourne escape down the booby trap he built into his prior statement, about JMU's plans to play 2020 fall football as long as the NCAA still holds FCS postseason play? If the postseason is not cancelled then I guess we'll have a season.
I hope I’m dead wrong about this, and don’t shoot the messenger, but I just don’t see Fall FB at JMU. Maybe a restart in the Spring.
(08-01-2020 05:31 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]I hope I’m dead wrong about this, and don’t shoot the messenger, but I just don’t see Fall FB at JMU. Maybe a restart in the Spring.

I fear you are dead right!!! What's so sad is not only has the fan base been strung along the last 2 to 3 weeks---but so have the coaches and players. JMU has WASTED tons of money bringing these players back to campus--- training, feeding, housing them, and conducting testing and quarantines.

This will be an inexcusable travesty, especially when there are games to be had---I believe that Cignetti wanted an FBS heavy schedule--there are games to be made. The staff writers on the 247Sports UNC message boards---BenSherman, said "Mack Brown alluded to UConn and JMU as the likely candidates" (July 31st 3:50PM) then GregBarnes "....non-conference game...Charlotte is out of the picture and will most likely be UConn or JMU" (July 31st 5:54 PM)

There are games to be scheduled. If there is no season, it's because Bourne will fall back on his built in excuse about only playing if there is an FCS post season. I hope and pray the NCAA calls bluff here, and lets the playoffs go on with however many FCS teams want to play. And it shouldn't even matter because JMU could schedule their little bus league dream season with all the Big South and CUSA teams looking for games.
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