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(07-07-2020 10:16 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]At minimum, could be political suicide (though may be the right decision).

That's why we are where we are. We need leaders that are willing to tell their citizens to deal with it. It's for the greater good.

We need to be told no sometimes. That's how you raise a child right and it applies to adults too.
(07-07-2020 11:03 AM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 10:16 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]At minimum, could be political suicide (though may be the right decision).

That's why we are where we are. We need leaders that are willing to tell their citizens to deal with it. It's for the greater good.

We need to be told no sometimes. That's how you raise a child right and it applies to adults too.

Give me a break.....I don't need Ralph Northam for example or any other politician playing dictator (which he is doing in Virginia).

You really want the government dictating what you can and cannot do instead of making informed decisions for yourself.
There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.
(07-07-2020 10:16 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 09:28 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: [ -> ]Let's face it: Fall football would be a total cluster this year. Fans will stay away in droves. Players will have to be constantly tested, and many will test positive. Some teams will refuse to play at all, while others will do so. Schedules will be totally screwed up as a result. The optics of teams playing “live” games while actual academics are consigned to online status are horrible. Who wants all that? Move it all to the spring.

I agree with you. Let me say that again...I agree with you. Having said that, as I said 2-3 months ago when discussing this subject in another thread, never underestimate (not that you are) that in certain parts of this country the optics of "not playing" are just as strong. In other words, I don't think in some areas they give a crapola about optics as far as whether regular students are in session, on campus, and the football team is playing. I want to see the Governor of Alabama, for instance, tell the citizens of that state that Tide and War Eagle football will be canceled due to students not being on campus...if that be the case (or any other reason for that matter). That should be interesting to watch if it comes down to that scenario. I picked Alabama for the obvious, but that state isn't alone.

I think some university presidents and AD's are waiting on state government officials (read: governors) to perhaps make their life easier by making a stand one way or the other...and, in some states take the fall for their decisions if highly unpopular. Some leaders' mettle are going to be tested in a big way when it comes to the potential decision of shutting down CFB. Yes, it has grown that big...again, in certain states (not just in the deep south, btw). e.g., is the Governor of Ohio going to shut down the Buckeyes when the SEC, ACC and Big 12-2 are all forging ahead? I want to watch that scenario if it plays out that way. It will take nads or nips of steel to make a decision like that. At minimum, could be political suicide (though may be the right decision).

SEC and ACC are in the South which are currently hotbeds for the virus. Restrictions are being increased in the south by the people a month ago that were saying we need to power through.

It ain't happening.

Enough parents won't allow it.

Enough professors will object to it.

Coaches or players will die.

Football is likely going to be the most difficult team sport to get going in the current conditions.

So So Cal has no live classes, and moves forward with sports - I player dies. Could you imagine the lawsuit? You might not, but I can tell you administrations can.....
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

Amen 04-bow
I saw today that Conference USA, Big South and Big Sky all took PPP money from the government to keep afloat during this. And that was while football was still possibly happening. I wonder what happens to conferences when football/basketball don't happen.
(07-07-2020 12:40 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.

I'm sorry, but I know two people who died of Covid-19 and I call BS on "media frenzy". It's 'media frenzy' if you don't want to believe it.
As for "most recovered in the world"... congrats to us! How many people didn't have to get it that got it? How many still have health problems due to being sick, but technically recovered so I guess that doesn't matter.
Have you ever tried to get tested? I know of three people that thought they had it and were not tested right away because they couldn't get a test. They eventually got tested but it was about a week later. Luckily those three were negative, but what if they were positive? What about the people those people saw and interacted with... all could have been avoided if they had been tested earlier (and were positive).
The truth is there are too many people getting sick that don't have to get sick. And as a result too many people are dying that don't have to die. That isn't "media frenzy". That's the damn truth.
(07-07-2020 12:41 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]I saw today that Conference USA, Big South and Big Sky all took PPP money from the government to keep afloat during this. And that was while football was still possibly happening. I wonder what happens to conferences when football/basketball don't happen.

I really hope college athletics in general learns from this crisis from a financial perspective. Folks are entitled in this capitalistic country to spend their money where and when they want. Not challenging that and am proud and lucky to live here. I go back though to Clemson, for instance, spending 60+ million dollars on a football-only facility so their players can have sleep lounges, barber shop, indoor putt putt course, and so forth. Not picking on Clemson, they aren't alone. Just an example of the "keeping up with the Joneses" that has been going on for decades and decades to out-spend others for the sake of winning big in college football.

It's really kind of sad when you think about it. But, capitalistic society and what is supposed to be an amateur sport means that much to others I guess. It reminds me sometimes of these big shots at the big football factories bragging about how much money their conference TV contract is now bringing in out of one side of their mouth and then raising ticket prices to home FB or MBB games at the same time. These blood suckers will stop at nothing when it comes to money. (end of rant)

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(07-07-2020 12:59 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:40 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.

I'm sorry, but I know two people who died of Covid-19 and I call BS on "media frenzy". It's 'media frenzy' if you don't want to believe it.
As for "most recovered in the world"... congrats to us! How many people didn't have to get it that got it? How many still have health problems due to being sick, but technically recovered so I guess that doesn't matter.
Have you ever tried to get tested? I know of three people that thought they had it and were not tested right away because they couldn't get a test. They eventually got tested but it was about a week later. Luckily those three were negative, but what if they were positive? What about the people those people saw and interacted with... all could have been avoided if they had been tested earlier (and were positive).
The truth is there are too many people getting sick that don't have to get sick. And as a result too many people are dying that don't have to die. That isn't "media frenzy". That's the damn truth.

Sounds like the triage for meeting the testing criteria worked pretty good then.

The fact of the matter is the vast majority of cases and deaths involve the elderly and those in longterm care facilities.......the same as are high risk to any virus and sickness.

Sorry for your loss but just b/c you knew 2 people does not mean it is not a media frenzy
(07-07-2020 12:59 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:40 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.

I'm sorry, but I know two people who died of Covid-19 and I call BS on "media frenzy". It's 'media frenzy' if you don't want to believe it.
As for "most recovered in the world"... congrats to us! How many people didn't have to get it that got it? How many still have health problems due to being sick, but technically recovered so I guess that doesn't matter.
Have you ever tried to get tested? I know of three people that thought they had it and were not tested right away because they couldn't get a test. They eventually got tested but it was about a week later. Luckily those three were negative, but what if they were positive? What about the people those people saw and interacted with... all could have been avoided if they had been tested earlier (and were positive).
The truth is there are too many people getting sick that don't have to get sick. And as a result too many people are dying that don't have to die. That isn't "media frenzy". That's the damn truth.

It's real, but what is not real is saying it's a binary choice either to live scared or power through. The way that works for everything is to take the precautions to limit the spread so we can have less deaths, & get business and sports back sooner. Wearing a mask, washing your hands, and social distancing is a minimum price to pay to get the economy and entertainment/sports back quicker.
(07-07-2020 01:05 PM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:59 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:40 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.

I'm sorry, but I know two people who died of Covid-19 and I call BS on "media frenzy". It's 'media frenzy' if you don't want to believe it.
As for "most recovered in the world"... congrats to us! How many people didn't have to get it that got it? How many still have health problems due to being sick, but technically recovered so I guess that doesn't matter.
Have you ever tried to get tested? I know of three people that thought they had it and were not tested right away because they couldn't get a test. They eventually got tested but it was about a week later. Luckily those three were negative, but what if they were positive? What about the people those people saw and interacted with... all could have been avoided if they had been tested earlier (and were positive).
The truth is there are too many people getting sick that don't have to get sick. And as a result too many people are dying that don't have to die. That isn't "media frenzy". That's the damn truth.

Sounds like the triage for meeting the testing criteria worked pretty good then.

The fact of the matter is the vast majority of cases and deaths involve the elderly and those in longterm care facilities.......the same as are high risk to any virus and sickness.

Sorry for your loss but just b/c you knew 2 people does not mean it is not a media frenzy


What if they had it? Would it have worked then? What about those other people in similar situations that think they might have it and actually have it but can't get a test? It doesn't have to be like this.
One of the people that I know that died was not elderly.
As for the other one... yes he was elderly. To say he could have died of anything because he's elderly is exactly the thinking that is going to lead to more people dying of this thing. To hell with the elderly because they could die of the flu, so what's another disease, right?
Well he lived a long life not dying of any other diseases, but Covid-19 destroyed him.
If it was someone you knew, would you really tell people at his/her funeral "The fact of the matter is the vast majority of cases and deaths involve the elderly and those in longterm care facilities.......the same as are high risk to any virus and sickness."
(07-07-2020 01:06 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:59 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:40 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.

I'm sorry, but I know two people who died of Covid-19 and I call BS on "media frenzy". It's 'media frenzy' if you don't want to believe it.
As for "most recovered in the world"... congrats to us! How many people didn't have to get it that got it? How many still have health problems due to being sick, but technically recovered so I guess that doesn't matter.
Have you ever tried to get tested? I know of three people that thought they had it and were not tested right away because they couldn't get a test. They eventually got tested but it was about a week later. Luckily those three were negative, but what if they were positive? What about the people those people saw and interacted with... all could have been avoided if they had been tested earlier (and were positive).
The truth is there are too many people getting sick that don't have to get sick. And as a result too many people are dying that don't have to die. That isn't "media frenzy". That's the damn truth.

It's real, but what is not real is saying it's a binary choice either to live scared or power through. The way that works for everything is to take the precautions to limit the spread so we can have less deaths, & get business and sports back sooner. Wearing a mask, washing your hands, and social distancing is a minimum price to pay to get the economy and entertainment/sports back quicker.

I am NOT saying to live life scared. But I am saying to live life considerate of others.
Where I live, on a good day I see 50% of the people wearing masks. The problem is that the precautions we need to be taking are not being taken.
As a result, we are 4 months into this thing and numbers still going up. I would love to take my son to the amusement park, the beach, the pool, go kart racing, but I can't. There are businesses going under. Some of these closures are going to happen longer and more businesses are going to go under due to people not taking the precautions.
(07-07-2020 11:44 AM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]Give me a break.....I don't need Ralph Northam for example or any other politician playing dictator (which he is doing in Virginia).

You really want the government dictating what you can and cannot do instead of making informed decisions for yourself.

We have the worst numbers in the world. What part of our response indicates the correct actions have been taken?

We're in this problem and many others because we only think about ourselves, first and foremost.
(07-07-2020 12:59 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:40 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote: [ -> ]There's no reason why we couldn't have done what almost every country in the world has done.
But we live in a selfish, entitled society. Everyone should want to wear a mask to protect our fellow Americans. Everyone should want to try to make an effort to social distance.
'But there's vacations' and 'breathing in a mask is uncomfortable' and 'I don't know anyone who has it' and 'It's a hoax' and 'I want my liberty!!'
And as a result, numbers are the highest of any country in the WORLD. And here's the truth: it will get even worse. Much, much worse.
What pisses me off about this whole thing is we did this to ourselves. People just don't give a crap until it happens to them and by that point its too late. We are sacraficing human lives for comfort and liberty. Meanwhile those that die have no liberty to live for.
Ehh, but you have your liberty, so screw 'em.

While there is some truth to this I also think the "USA doesn't care" message is a little bit of media frenzy. Yes we have the most cases but we also have the most recovered in the world. And most cases is really misleading because you need to look at percentage of population. When you look at percentages we are still high but we are not at the top. And when you look at deaths per million, which is the most important thing I think, we are behind the UK, behind Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, all countries that would be considered our contemporaries in many ways. We are about the same as the Netherlands and Ireland for death per million. We are also seeing the lowest deaths per day that we have seen since March despite having the most cases per day since this started.

So, while I agree everyone should be wearing masks and doing all they can I am not sure I agree with the media hyped "America is by far the worst at dealing with this" attacking America is low hanging fruit for the world right now.

I'm sorry, but I know two people who died of Covid-19 and I call BS on "media frenzy". It's 'media frenzy' if you don't want to believe it.
As for "most recovered in the world"... congrats to us! How many people didn't have to get it that got it? How many still have health problems due to being sick, but technically recovered so I guess that doesn't matter.
Have you ever tried to get tested? I know of three people that thought they had it and were not tested right away because they couldn't get a test. They eventually got tested but it was about a week later. Luckily those three were negative, but what if they were positive? What about the people those people saw and interacted with... all could have been avoided if they had been tested earlier (and were positive).
The truth is there are too many people getting sick that don't have to get sick. And as a result too many people are dying that don't have to die. That isn't "media frenzy". That's the damn truth.

I guess sometimes we just read what we want when were looking for a fight. I never said the pandemic was a media frenzy. I know of 4 people who have died. It is a very real thing. I said the media frenzy is them playing up that America is far and away the worst at dealing with this when the numbers do not play that out. The numbers say that we are in a bad spot but clearly not the worst in the world. That is the media frenzy.

No, it is not a good thing that we have any deaths at all.
No, I don't think it is good that we are in the top 10 even if we are not number one in deaths.
Yes, I think it is easy right now for the worldwide media to take the low hanging fruit and just say the dumb Americans don't know how to deal with this and the rest of the world does.
Quote:We have the worst numbers in the world. What part of our response indicates the correct actions have been taken?

We're in this problem and many others because we only think about ourselves, first and foremost.

Using what metric? Not deaths per million or cases per million. We are not doing great but I have not seen any metrics showing us as the worst when you look at numbers compared to population.
(07-07-2020 01:35 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 11:44 AM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]Give me a break.....I don't need Ralph Northam for example or any other politician playing dictator (which he is doing in Virginia).

You really want the government dictating what you can and cannot do instead of making informed decisions for yourself.

We have the worst numbers in the world. What part of our response indicates the correct actions have been taken?

We're in this problem and many others because we only think about ourselves, first and foremost.

Get real, worst numbers in the world, that is quite a bit of hyperbole.

The only real number that matters is fatality rate and that number actually gets better each day as more and more folks are tested. Total number of infections......yeah we also have the highest population and most testing in the world. Just by percentage our total number of infections would be higher than most other countries.
This MLS return with its MLS is Back tournament supposed to start tomorrow is falling apart. As previously posted, FC Dallas has withdrawn due to COVID and now some other games are being postponed and/or rescheduled. The MVP of the league (Vela) has opted out.

It will be interesting to see if this event continues on as scheduled or if it falls apart within a week. Hmmm...

(note, the DC United opening match against Toronto FC has been rescheduled)
(07-07-2020 02:05 PM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 01:35 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 11:44 AM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]Give me a break.....I don't need Ralph Northam for example or any other politician playing dictator (which he is doing in Virginia).

You really want the government dictating what you can and cannot do instead of making informed decisions for yourself.

We have the worst numbers in the world. What part of our response indicates the correct actions have been taken?

We're in this problem and many others because we only think about ourselves, first and foremost.

Get real, worst numbers in the world, that is quite a bit of hyperbole.

The only real number that matters is fatality rate and that number actually gets better each day as more and more folks are tested. Total number of infections......yeah we also have the highest population and most testing in the world. Just by percentage our total number of infections would be higher than most other countries.

Yes - let's get real! In the Top 20 countries most affected by Covid the United States has the 7th worst fatality rate at 4.4% and the 2nd worst deaths per 100,000 population at 39.2.
(07-07-2020 01:01 PM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-07-2020 12:41 PM)doubleduke2016 Wrote: [ -> ]I saw today that Conference USA, Big South and Big Sky all took PPP money from the government to keep afloat during this. And that was while football was still possibly happening. I wonder what happens to conferences when football/basketball don't happen.

I really hope college athletics in general learns from this crisis from a financial perspective. Folks are entitled in this capitalistic country to spend their money where and when they want. Not challenging that and am proud and lucky to live here. I go back though to Clemson, for instance, spending 60+ million dollars on a football-only facility so their players can have sleep lounges, barber shop, indoor putt putt course, and so forth. Not picking on Clemson, they aren't alone. Just an example of the "keeping up with the Joneses" that has been going on for decades and decades to out-spend others for the sake of winning big in college football.

It's really kind of sad when you think about it. But, capitalistic society and what is supposed to be an amateur sport means that much to others I guess. It reminds me sometimes of these big shots at the big football factories bragging about how much money their conference TV contract is now bringing in out of one side of their mouth and then raising ticket prices to home FB or MBB games at the same time. These blood suckers will stop at nothing when it comes to money. (end of rant)

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You forgot the slide.

That is my son on the right last spring.
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