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It is helpful that the championship game is in Texas.
(07-25-2020 10:37 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]It is helpful that the championship game is in Texas.

How is that helpful?
(07-25-2020 11:23 PM)Purple Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-25-2020 10:37 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]It is helpful that the championship game is in Texas.

How is that helpful?

I would assume because they're more permissive on large events and less restrictive than other states with regards to COVID restrictions.
Not sure if this will help or further depress you, but Last Chance U season five drops tomorrow on Netflix. It may be the only CFB I get to watch this year.
This seems relevant.

(07-27-2020 08:22 AM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]This seems relevant.


Well it was fun while it lasted. Congrats to my Braves for the winning the 2020 title!*

*based on run differential tie-breaker
(07-27-2020 08:22 AM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]This seems relevant.


Very relevant. 2 Atlanta Braves catchers were held out of their series this past weekend against the Mets. Who did the Braves play last week in 2 games as part of their preparation? The Miami Marlins. And, which position comes in closest contact with opposing players? The catcher. Coincidence? Perhaps. But, maybe connected.
Not sure if I should keep posting these MLB ones until they officially postpone/cancel the season, but here's an update.



This is relevant to HS sports in VA.

(07-27-2020 09:38 AM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure if I should keep posting these MLB ones until they officially postpone/cancel the season, but here's an update.



This is relevant to HS sports in VA.


They are definitely relevant. I think there will be a lot of eyeballs on what happens with the pro sports leagues trying to start back up - MLB, NBA, NHL, and MLS has been going on for ~3 weeks now (and lost 2 teams before they ever got started).

Also, breaking news... Central Florida has claimed VHSL 2020 football championships in all 6 divisions.

04-cheers
Wow, now the Phillies have cancelled their game today out of an abundance of caution. I'm sure they're going to have to test everyone.
This - uh - doesn't look great for the Marlins or sports in general.

So there are 33 players (?) traveling as a team in a sport that doesn't involve contact and generally only involves 2 players within 6 feet of each other at a time (catchers and rotating hitters, but admittedly you got the base runner interactions as well). Those <6 foot interactions maybe total ~9-12 minutes (3 minutes in batters box per 3-4x plate appearances) for every player except the catcher. Given the 6 feet and 15 minutes of interaction outside guidelines, baseball SHOULD be a safe sport to play between teams (not considering the spread within a team). That doesn't appear to be the case given apparent Braves to Marlins and I'm predicting a Marlins to Phillies spread.

So how do we roll this out to a game that involves 2x as many players and refs, and additional people including a chain crew, ball crew, and televisions crew on field; all with drastically closer distances between mouths and for significantly more time?

Don't read this as a sky is falling sort of mass hysteria inducing as I'm just curious how can anyone expect a football season to last 6+ games (an OOC only schedule minimum) when baseball cannot make it 1 week / 2 opponents? If Marlins had to quarantine for 2 weeks, they would miss 13 of their 60 games.
(07-27-2020 10:25 AM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, now the Phillies have cancelled their game today out of an abundance of caution. I'm sure they're going to have to test everyone.

I quickly googled this the other day and couldn't find anything concrete but it seems generally agreed that false negatives could come back for several days after exposure. It doesn't seem like Marlins/MLB cared about science yesterday morning when they decided to play, but it implies the entire Phillies/Yankees series should be cancelled.
(07-27-2020 10:32 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote: [ -> ]So there are 33 players (?) traveling as a team in a sport that doesn't involve contact and generally only involves 2 players within 6 feet of each other at a time (catchers and rotating hitters, but admittedly you got the base runner interactions as well). Those <6 foot interactions maybe total ~9-12 minutes (3 minutes in batters box per 3-4x plate appearances) for every player except the catcher. Given the 6 feet and 15 minutes of interaction outside guidelines, baseball SHOULD be a safe sport to play between teams (not considering the spread within a team). That doesn't appear to be the case given apparent Braves to Marlins and I'm predicting a Marlins to Phillies spread.

So how do we roll this out to a game that involves 2x as many players and refs, and additional people including a chain crew, ball crew, and televisions crew on field; all with drastically closer distances between mouths and for significantly more time?

Don't read this as a sky is falling sort of mass hysteria inducing as I'm just curious how can anyone expect a football season to last 6+ games (an OOC only schedule minimum) when baseball cannot make it 1 week / 2 opponents? If Marlins had to quarantine for 2 weeks, they would miss 13 of their 60 games.

I don't see your questions or commentary as any sort of sky is falling viewpoint. Those are legit questions/concerns that I struggle with as well. That is, I can't figure out how guys who bang against one another in the trenches, for example, for 80 or more plays a game aren't going to spread a highly contagious virus - assuming of course, one of them is infected. I realize testing is one pathway of not having a player out there in the first place. But, still. The sheer odds suggest in multiple instances it is going to happen.

I also don't trust a lot of these football coaches. Most, yes. Not even close though to trusting them all. If CFB does go forward this fall, and I'm not sure it will, the medical people are going to have to be independent and have final say. You'd like to think coaches will do the right thing. Meaning, not play someone who is or has been showing symptoms (or even is just concerned at the moment). But, some of these guys are old school (suck-it-up-and-play types) and extremely competitive. Perhaps it's me getting more cynical in my progressing older age too I admit. 01-lauramac2

04-cheers
This is an absolute mess for the MLB. This season won't last.

The MLS had two positive teams and promptly said, "nope. your seasons are done before they began. see you in 2021".
(07-27-2020 09:01 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020 08:22 AM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]This seems relevant.


Very relevant. 2 Atlanta Braves catchers were held out of their series this past weekend against the Mets. Who did the Braves play last week in 2 games as part of their preparation? The Miami Marlins. And, which position comes in closest contact with opposing players? The catcher. Coincidence? Perhaps. But, maybe connected.

That is an interesting coincidence. The last report was that the two Braves catchers had tested negative, but I haven’t heard any updates on that since Saturday, I think. I hope the mini-season can be salvaged, but .... I sure wouldn’t bet on it.
(07-27-2020 09:01 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020 08:22 AM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]This seems relevant.


Very relevant. 2 Atlanta Braves catchers were held out of their series this past weekend against the Mets. Who did the Braves play last week in 2 games as part of their preparation? The Miami Marlins. And, which position comes in closest contact with opposing players? The catcher. Coincidence? Perhaps. But, maybe connected.
I believe they both tested negative.

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(07-27-2020 11:41 AM)JMU85 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020 09:01 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020 08:22 AM)DukeDogNation Wrote: [ -> ]This seems relevant.


Very relevant. 2 Atlanta Braves catchers were held out of their series this past weekend against the Mets. Who did the Braves play last week in 2 games as part of their preparation? The Miami Marlins. And, which position comes in closest contact with opposing players? The catcher. Coincidence? Perhaps. But, maybe connected.
I believe they both tested negative.

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Yes, they did you are correct. They were held out for showing symptoms of the virus. I was kind of confused about it when the news first hit this past Friday afternoon. Both catchers stayed in Atlanta and didn't make the weekend trip to NYC. Perhaps the Braves doing the right thing by just being overly cautious. Especially coming off Freddie Freeman's battle with it where his fever reached over 104 and he was saying prayers at the peak to God asking him not to take him.

If CFB goes forward, I'd bet heavily that we are going to see at least one team labeled as an "outbreak" at some point (like the Marlins are now).
Monmouth in the Big South has announced that they're also not having a fall sports season. They join Hampton as the second Big South school to cancel their fall sports despite their conference still forging ahead as of today.

Monmouth would've been an obvious scheduling choice for JMU too. One fewer potential quality-ish opponent in the region.

In CAA fall football news, it looks like Elon and JMU are the only CAA schools still attempting to have a fall season. Villanova's statements were less certain.
(07-27-2020 01:31 PM)Potomac Wrote: [ -> ]Monmouth in the Big South has announced that they're also not having a fall sports season. They join Hampton as the second Big South school to cancel their fall sports despite their conference still forging ahead as of today.

Monmouth would've been an obvious scheduling choice for JMU too. One fewer potential quality-ish opponent in the region.

In CAA fall football news, it looks like Elon and JMU are the only CAA schools still attempting to have a fall season. Villanova's statements were less certain.

That's weird that Monmouth would cancel after the Big South announced on Wednesday that the conference was to start play on Sept 3rd. You would've thought that after that announcement all teams would have been on the same page about playing.
https://twitter.com/BigSouthSports/statu...5548484610

At this point the Big South has Hampton and Monmouth are sitting out the fall. North Alabama ineligible for the Big South title.
That leaves only Campbell, Charleston Southern, Gardner-Webb and Kennesaw State. And only 5 teams total to play this fall. If they don't cancel the season as a conference, those teams are gonna need games desperately. Could the Big South become a temporary conference home for JMU and Elon in 2020? Those 5 teams will be looking for games. Campbell and Gardner-Webb should be bus league games. Maybe JMU could meet the other 3 half way on neutral fields.

But with the autonomy 5 looking like they're gonna go their own way with conference only, many G5 games will be dumped, so JMU, hopefully will be able to add some regional CUSA E/Sun Belt E teams to the schedule.
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