(12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger? Maybe the first between Watt and Harris then try to get a JUCO OL to pair with Lewis knowing that Metz is probably a 2 year project.
Full 25 but transfers count towards a class now and not just towards the 85 scholarship count. We have Ethan Tucky (Boston College) and Anthony Johnson (Penn St) who transferred in last year but since they are eligible for the 2018 season, they count towards the 2018 class.
So 20 commits + 2 transfers = 3 spots left for a OLB/OL/WR (and need to consider holding a spot for a grad transfer)
(12-12-2017 08:44 AM)wanes Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger? Maybe the first between Watt and Harris then try to get a JUCO OL to pair with Lewis knowing that Metz is probably a 2 year project.
Full 25 but transfers count towards a class now and not just towards the 85 scholarship count. We have Ethan Tucky (Boston College) and Anthony Johnson (Penn St) who transferred in last year but since they are eligible for the 2018 season, they count towards the 2018 class.
So 20 commits + 2 transfers = 3 spots left for a OLB/OL/WR (and need to consider holding a spot for a grad transfer)
Ah I forgot about transfers not being retroactive...did they change the EE rules as well? If so, that may free up a few of those spots.
(12-12-2017 08:52 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:44 AM)wanes Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger? Maybe the first between Watt and Harris then try to get a JUCO OL to pair with Lewis knowing that Metz is probably a 2 year project.
Full 25 but transfers count towards a class now and not just towards the 85 scholarship count. We have Ethan Tucky (Boston College) and Anthony Johnson (Penn St) who transferred in last year but since they are eligible for the 2018 season, they count towards the 2018 class.
So 20 commits + 2 transfers = 3 spots left for a OLB/OL/WR (and need to consider holding a spot for a grad transfer)
Ah I forgot about transfers not being retroactive...did they change the EE rules as well? If so, that may free up a few of those spots.
EE's count towards the current recruiting class also, so now backdating things. Closed the loopholes so now its 25 kids signing for a class max.
(12-12-2017 09:11 AM)wanes Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:52 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:44 AM)wanes Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger? Maybe the first between Watt and Harris then try to get a JUCO OL to pair with Lewis knowing that Metz is probably a 2 year project.
Full 25 but transfers count towards a class now and not just towards the 85 scholarship count. We have Ethan Tucky (Boston College) and Anthony Johnson (Penn St) who transferred in last year but since they are eligible for the 2018 season, they count towards the 2018 class.
So 20 commits + 2 transfers = 3 spots left for a OLB/OL/WR (and need to consider holding a spot for a grad transfer)
Ah I forgot about transfers not being retroactive...did they change the EE rules as well? If so, that may free up a few of those spots.
EE's count towards the current recruiting class also, so now backdating things. Closed the loopholes so now its 25 kids signing for a class max.
And yet the SEC will still find a way to have classes of 37
So I guess it'll be Metz/Lewis/JUCO OL, Dasher/some other OLB, and Harris/Watt.
(12-12-2017 08:29 AM)jarr Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger?
Oats is still CB to UC, but this board seems to think we are out on that sweep stakes.
Not going to happen. It's safe to completely forget about him, and UC, being a thing. He's going to likely end up somewhere in the B10.
mc
(12-12-2017 08:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If we traded the 2 de-committed GA WRs who seemed like a lot of the guys we already have at the position for Pierce and Harris I will be extremely excited.
Would be a YUUUGE upgrade. We're clearly in the big WR sweepstakes, and both of those guys check that box.
That said, if we don't flip, Harris, soon I'm thinking the opportunity will have passed.
mc
(12-12-2017 08:29 AM)jarr Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger?
Oats is still CB to UC, but this board seems to think we are out on that sweep stakes.
He has only taken three OVs (Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Ole Miss). If we don't even get one, I doubt we get him...I would love to have him, I just no longer think it's in the cards. We've been going after Vernon Dasher pretty hard. Seems to be between us, Kansas State, and New Mexico. KState knows their JUCOs and the last LB we lost to New Mexico ended up leading the NCAA in tackles his junior and senior year, so I'm inclined to think this kid's the real deal.
(12-12-2017 09:18 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:29 AM)jarr Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger?
Oats is still CB to UC, but this board seems to think we are out on that sweep stakes.
He has only taken three OVs (Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Ole Miss). If we don't even get one, I doubt we get him...I would love to have him, I just no longer think it's in the cards. We've been going after Vernon Dasher pretty hard. Seems to be between us, Kansas State, and New Mexico. KState knows their JUCOs and the last LB we lost to New Mexico ended up leading the NCAA in tackles his junior and senior year, so I'm inclined to think this kid's the real deal.
Yeah, that was Dakota Cox. He was all set to come here until a certain "riverboat gambler" wouldn't call him back after he took over for Lyle Jones. A sign of things to come.
Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect -
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
(12-12-2017 11:18 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect - http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
Honestly...I've been saying on here for two years that he is the best QB on OSU's roster and I wholeheartedly believe it (from a non-partisan observer perspective). That kid was absolutely incredible in HS and about the perfect fit for our offense as we could find right now.
(12-12-2017 11:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:18 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect - http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
Honestly...I've been saying on here for two years that he is the best QB on OSU's roster and I wholeheartedly believe it (from a non-partisan observer perspective). That kid was absolutely incredible in HS and about the perfect fit for our offense as we could find right now.
Wow. That's a pretty strong statement. I've honestly not seen him play, but a grad transfer with Ohio roots and two years to play is awfully compelling.
(12-12-2017 11:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:18 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect - http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
Honestly...I've been saying on here for two years that he is the best QB on OSU's roster and I wholeheartedly believe it (from a non-partisan observer perspective). That kid was absolutely incredible in HS and about the perfect fit for our offense as we could find right now.
x2. He is definitely buried at OSU. Great runner to go along with passing. Trout needs to give him a call.
(12-12-2017 11:45 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:18 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect - http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
Honestly...I've been saying on here for two years that he is the best QB on OSU's roster and I wholeheartedly believe it (from a non-partisan observer perspective). That kid was absolutely incredible in HS and about the perfect fit for our offense as we could find right now.
Wow. That's a pretty strong statement. I've honestly not seen him play, but a grad transfer with Ohio roots and two years to play is awfully compelling.
Just to be clear, I think he's the best QB but I think Barrett and Haskins fit their scheme better. He has shown himself to be a better pure passer than both and he has legs. The dude threw 2 picks (one on the last pass attempt of his season/career, a 70 yard Hail Mary in the state championship game which was picked off by....Michael Warren) on 390 pass attempts his senior year of high school while rushing for 800 yards and completing 74% of his passes.
In short, I would take him in a heartbeat.
(12-12-2017 11:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:18 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect - http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
Honestly...I've been saying on here for two years that he is the best QB on OSU's roster and I wholeheartedly believe it (from a non-partisan observer perspective). That kid was absolutely incredible in HS and about the perfect fit for our offense as we could find right now.
I get where you're coming from, but i find this extraordinarily hard to agree with. Measurables, and HS only carry so much weight at the next level. I'm not JT true believer, but I think it's clear he's the best QB at OSU....caveat being...at this moment. If Burrow is as thorough as everyone says he is he'd stick around and earn his keep next season when the position is wide open.
All that said, i hope he leaves, and transfers to UC. Would love to see just how good he could be suited up for the Bearcats.
mc
(12-12-2017 01:22 PM)marcuscan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:36 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 11:18 AM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure where else to put this, so I'll park it here. Joe Burrow is a RS Sophomore at Ohio State, and expected to graduate this spring. There have been some (delusional townie types) Ohio State fans who have called for him to start over J.T. Barrett. Unfortunately, he was injured early this year and the freshman, Haskins (?), got the nod as backup, and performed well in Barrett's absence. By all accounts, however, Burrow has excellent tools and he's a good leader. He was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, and it appears he's leaning toward transferring, with two years remaining. I have no clue about his relationship with Fickell, but he's not one of those guys because it was clear that he couldn't measure up. He's caught up in a numbers/ timing situation. He could be an interesting prospect - http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/12/joe_burrow_on_his_uncertain_fu.html.
Honestly...I've been saying on here for two years that he is the best QB on OSU's roster and I wholeheartedly believe it (from a non-partisan observer perspective). That kid was absolutely incredible in HS and about the perfect fit for our offense as we could find right now.
I get where you're coming from, but i find this extraordinarily hard to agree with. Measurables, and HS only carry so much weight at the next level. I'm not JT true believer, but I think it's clear he's the best QB at OSU....caveat being...at this moment. If Burrow is as thorough as everyone says he is he'd stick around and earn his keep next season when the position is wide open.
All that said, i hope he leaves, and transfers to UC. Would love to see just how good he could be suited up for the Bearcats.
I'm also using the action he has had in college, albeit limited. The dude can throw much better than either Haskins or Barrett, he just does not fit their scheme as much as either.
Would love to land this kid, but I have a feeling Meyer has other plans/guidance.
We play OSU in 2019. Imagine the storyline if this kid leads a rebuilding UC team to victory in Columbus.
I would take Burrow in a heartbeat. He was considered to be in a dead heat with Haskins for the backup job before his injury, and I believe with him at the helm over Moore in 2018 we would immediately go from a 4-6 win team to a 6-8 win team. Unless the staff believes Bryant is going to start as a true freshman next year, Haskins is a no-brainer IMO.
Burrow would be a huge pickup, especially with our terrible QB situation on the current roster. He would take over the starting QB role immediately and give Bryant a few years to develop and be ready to take over the reigns from him.
Also, I'd save at least 2 spots for OL grad transfer types. That spot desperately needs to be addressed.
(12-12-2017 09:14 AM)marcuscan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:29 AM)jarr Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2017 08:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]So, 20 commits...are we getting the full 25? If so, I'd have to figure the last few would be Watt, Lewis, Dasher, Metz, and Harris if we can get them all to pull the trigger?
Oats is still CB to UC, but this board seems to think we are out on that sweep stakes.
Not going to happen. It's safe to completely forget about him, and UC, being a thing. He's going to likely end up somewhere in the B10.
mc
Agree. If he's a take for the B10 schools he'll likely end up there. Doesn't sound like he's a take for Michigan State or Oklahoma. He may end up at UK by default.
If not Burrow, maybe former Iowa State starter Jacob Park would be on our radar..https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/College-Football/2017/12/12/Iowa-State-quarterback-Jacob-Park-requests-release/8251513104763/