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Somewhere along the lines human beings are going to decide if they want to move on with their lives and not be crippled by the insurance companies, lawyers, unions. and politicians who have run amuck. This COVID thing aint going away soon.

Baseball teams probably don't tackle each other very often, but they seem to spread this virus readily once it gets into the clubhouse. Imagine how difficult it would be for the virus to find new hosts at a football game.

(08-04-2020 08:23 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

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(08-04-2020 09:54 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]We're expecting a "families only" type policy for fans at our games on Friday this fall, if they even happen.

High school sports without fans. A generation robbed of the sweet thrills of youth.

"Generation" is a little hyperbolic. It's one season, and even then, most of the people who were going to games will be there anyways. Look, I'm a coach, and I wouldn't go anywhere near that far...kids are still enjoying themselves in practice, learning all the lessons about the game and work ethic that they normally would, and I haven't seen any of these 15-18 year olds hang their heads or ***** about it...they're happy about the opportunity to play, and according to OHSAA, they will play, just might not have the few hundred people watching them from the stands, they'll just be on TV instead (which many seem to be even more pumped about).

Except... I have no faith the OHSAA will stop there. And I would like to believe all this will eventually end, but hyperbolic is beginning to describe the action plans that are coming down the pipe.

You have to anticipate once the kids get back to school...if they ever do... or if they start playing...if they ever do...we will get another spike...another set of rollbacks...another tightening of the screws.

I will be surprised if they play at all this fall.

And as I said, it will be one year...not a generation of people, saying as much IS hyperbolic.

Who’s to say it will be one year?

(08-04-2020 09:36 PM)glacier_dropsy Wrote: [ -> ]Baseball teams probably don't tackle each other very often, but they seem to spread this virus readily once it gets into the clubhouse. Imagine how difficult it would be for the virus to find new hosts at a football game.

The outbreaks you are referring to were due to clubbing and casinos.

Being reported that UConn has canceled their FB season.

(08-05-2020 07:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]Being reported that UConn has canceled their FB season.

In typical UConn fashion, I'm sure basketball will go on come hell or high water.

If UConn cancels their football season and nobody notices, does it make a sound?

Lol, those jabronis at the Boneyard have lost it. They all think this was for player safety and NOT because all of Uconns opponents are canceling and no conference wants them. eff em.

It's all still frustrating to me. We had things under control in mid-june. If we had our daily cases numbers at the place they were back then, we're likely not talking about bubbles at all and could proceed with the European soccer model. Instead, we're only just now hitting our second plateau in cases and are probably a few months away from that reality.

(08-05-2020 08:41 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]If UConn cancels their football season and nobody notices, does it make a sound?

Question is, if this is truly because of Covid, like the school says, how can they cancel football but not cancel other contact sports? The reality is, it is because of other teams on their schedule cancelling their game against UConn and....money...unless they happen to decide the health of the student athletes, in other contact sports, is important too.

(08-05-2020 09:35 AM)bearcatdp Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 08:41 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]If UConn cancels their football season and nobody notices, does it make a sound?

Question is, if this is truly because of Covid, like the school says, how can they cancel football but not cancel other contact sports? The reality is, it is because of other teams on their schedule cancelling their game against UConn and....money...unless they happen to decide the health of the student athletes, in other contact sports, is important too.

This is the danger of going indy and not being Notre Dame. Other than filling space no one cares if UConn is on its schedule.

(08-05-2020 09:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]It's all still frustrating to me. We had things under control in mid-june. If we had our daily cases numbers at the place they were back then, we're likely not talking about bubbles at all and could proceed with the European soccer model. Instead, we're only just now hitting our second plateau in cases and are probably a few months away from that reality.

I just fear that our daily cases graph is going to look more like a sine-wave than a standard distribution because we can't commit to anything.

(08-05-2020 10:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 09:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]It's all still frustrating to me. We had things under control in mid-june. If we had our daily cases numbers at the place they were back then, we're likely not talking about bubbles at all and could proceed with the European soccer model. Instead, we're only just now hitting our second plateau in cases and are probably a few months away from that reality.

I just fear that our daily cases graph is going to look more like a sine-wave than a standard distribution because we can't commit to anything.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Hospitalization rate is not going up

(08-05-2020 10:41 AM)cmhcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 09:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]It's all still frustrating to me. We had things under control in mid-june. If we had our daily cases numbers at the place they were back then, we're likely not talking about bubbles at all and could proceed with the European soccer model. Instead, we're only just now hitting our second plateau in cases and are probably a few months away from that reality.

I just fear that our daily cases graph is going to look more like a sine-wave than a standard distribution because we can't commit to anything.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Hospitalization rate is not going up

I get that...a sine-wave has peaks and troughs, that's what I'm saying. We won't commit to something long enough to kill it, we'll see the first tick of a downturn, open everything up, and see another spike like we did this past month.

(08-05-2020 11:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:41 AM)cmhcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 09:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]It's all still frustrating to me. We had things under control in mid-june. If we had our daily cases numbers at the place they were back then, we're likely not talking about bubbles at all and could proceed with the European soccer model. Instead, we're only just now hitting our second plateau in cases and are probably a few months away from that reality.

I just fear that our daily cases graph is going to look more like a sine-wave than a standard distribution because we can't commit to anything.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Hospitalization rate is not going up

I get that...a sine-wave has peaks and troughs, that's what I'm saying. We won't commit to something long enough to kill it, we'll see the first tick of a downturn, open everything up, and see another spike like we did this past month.

The virus doesn't die, unless vaccine or herd immunity happens. Shutting down only delays the spread.

I think that's an oversimiplification, especially given how much worse some country's fatality rates have been than others. Further, Europe, though experiencing a recent uptick in their own right, is still way below where we are as far as new daily cases goes.

Maybe you can argue that Europe will one day experience a second wave like we just endured throughout the month of July, and that we simply expedited that process.

But keep in mind that their curve has looked far better overall, even at it's worst, and that their lives and sports are much closer to normalcy than ours:

Keep in mind that the EU + UK has almost 200M more people than the USA.

(08-05-2020 07:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]Being reported that UConn has canceled their FB season.

They were down to 6 games. Likely they drop down next year or drop FB.

UMass
Old Dominion
Liberty
@ San Jose State (likely cancel)
MTSU
Army

Losing the paydays from B10 games little income.

(08-05-2020 11:08 AM)Z-Fly Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 11:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:41 AM)cmhcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 09:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]It's all still frustrating to me. We had things under control in mid-june. If we had our daily cases numbers at the place they were back then, we're likely not talking about bubbles at all and could proceed with the European soccer model. Instead, we're only just now hitting our second plateau in cases and are probably a few months away from that reality.

I just fear that our daily cases graph is going to look more like a sine-wave than a standard distribution because we can't commit to anything.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Hospitalization rate is not going up

I get that...a sine-wave has peaks and troughs, that's what I'm saying. We won't commit to something long enough to kill it, we'll see the first tick of a downturn, open everything up, and see another spike like we did this past month.

The virus doesn't die, unless vaccine or herd immunity happens. Shutting down only delays the spread.

Just curious but have you done the back-of-the-napkin math on herd immunity? We're currently at around 60,000 cases per day. Assuming even 1/2 the population would need to get it to achieve herd immunity (which is extremely generous) that's 165,000,000. Divide that by 60,000 and you're looking at well over 2,000 days. Is that realistic in your mind?

(08-05-2020 11:39 AM)MickMack Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 11:08 AM)Z-Fly Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 11:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:41 AM)cmhcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-05-2020 10:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I just fear that our daily cases graph is going to look more like a sine-wave than a standard distribution because we can't commit to anything.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Hospitalization rate is not going up

I get that...a sine-wave has peaks and troughs, that's what I'm saying. We won't commit to something long enough to kill it, we'll see the first tick of a downturn, open everything up, and see another spike like we did this past month.

The virus doesn't die, unless vaccine or herd immunity happens. Shutting down only delays the spread.

Just curious but have you done the back-of-the-napkin math on herd immunity? We're currently at around 60,000 cases per day. Assuming even 1/2 the population would need to get it to achieve herd immunity (which is extremely generous) that's 165,000,000. Divide that by 60,000 and you're looking at well over 2,000 days. Is that realistic in your mind?

Yeah but you have to multiply the cases per day by a fudge factor to determine the actual cases. Bunches of asymptomatic and undiagnosed cases. But yeah, by the time herd immunity rolls around it will be 2050.