(04-21-2020 03:09 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]To the topic at hand.
...and there you go....like I said earlier.
Pfft. UGone football isn't worth starting up in a normal season...
Check this article out...
Quote:As the coronavirus persists, that effort includes numerous plans to start college football, the first being an attempt to begin with fall camps opening as scheduled around Aug. 1. Such a return includes the possible adjustment -- some may say "disposal" -- of longstanding, safe return-to-play guidelines. Specifically, two-a-day practices -- banned in 2017 -- could return for the preseason session.
While a timely start to the 2020 season remains in question, the conversation needs to be more about how to get to kickoff than when. Latest guidelines call for an acclimation period (7-10 days) for players prior to any formal football drills taking place. Guidelines introduced last year call for a "safe and effective framework" in order to ease players into strenuous workouts.
That would put the return-to-practice date at approximately July 15. Some say the so-called "drop dead" date for starting the season on time should be much earlier.
"I think we have to be willing to be nimble while still maintaining the standards of safety," said Brian Hainline, the NCAA's chief medical officer.
The three camps involved in the return-to-play decision -- coaches, trainers and medical personnel -- don't always mesh perfectly. They can't afford to get this one wrong in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.
"That is my biggest fear," said Rod Walters, a hall-of-fame trainer and NFL head trauma consultant. "If we don't handle this thing right, it's going to be another exertional heat death."
An on-time, early-August start -- essentially going from zero to 60 in athletic terms -- would come less than 14 months after the NCAA's released specific catastrophic injury guidelines. The recommendations were developed as an answer to the nearly three-dozen deaths since 2000.
"The unprecedented thing would be the collaboration of coaches, medical folks and trainers on the front side," said Randy Cohen, Arizona's senior associate athletic director for medical services. "There is unprecedented planning ahead. … This is no different than the President and the Congress. The best way is, today, to throw out your agenda and work together."
Cohen believes practices can start safely Aug. 1 even with players essentially going directly from shelter in place to the field. However, not all players may be physically ready for practice when starting from scratch on that date. Cohen compared such a swift return to athletes recovering from an injury easing back into the lineup .
"My quarterback may be ready, but my two receivers may be ready to play only half the game," Cohen said.
"We are going to have to be in this constant state of readiness," Hainline said. "That state of readiness means that no one with any symptoms would ever report to practice. People with symptoms are tested right away. If they test positive, they are isolated."
AAC commissioner Mike Aresco said a "consensus" is forming around a July 15 return to formal in-person, on-campus workouts. That would give teams starting in Week Zero (Aug. 29) slightly more than six weeks to get ready.
Several coaches, including Oklahoma's Lincoln Riley, have said they could pick up and start from scratch in early August. Riley said he would need only 15-20 practices.
CBS Sports Article
FWIW
Marshall announced their home game vs Boise has been moved by ESPN one day earlier to Friday night 9/25 for broadcast. The network still thinks college football is moving forward.
I have no idea what's going to happen. Just found it interesting. I'd be thrilled if it were possible to have football and even more thrilled if that included being able to attend games. I think the former is far more likely than the later. A lot probably depends on how we handle the next few months.
(04-21-2020 03:26 PM)converrl Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2020 03:09 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]To the topic at hand.
...and there you go....like I said earlier.
Well, UCONN cancelled football years ago.
(04-21-2020 10:07 AM)Ring of Black Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2020 08:24 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah, I’m just a regular Scrooge McDuck. However, due to decisions we made long before this “world ending cataclysm” I guess I don’t have as much debt stuffed in that mattress as some do. Life is all about choices.
Yes. I have wondered throughout this, why businesses (and individuals) don't put away enough money for "a rainy day".
There are plenty examples of both... people "buying-upward", barely affordable houses, then using the equity (not their own money) to either make the house all the more fancy, or otherwise extra toys.
Businesses with their stock buybacks and overpaying execs. Even the ones that get canned, probably make as much or more in severance payments than I make in my lifetime.
I mean, things have, for the most part, only been shut down for barely more than a month, and is expected to be 2-3 by the time it's all said and done. Hardly the time scale of the Great Depression.
The poor saving rate, and easy debt continue to plague this nation, still a decade after the financial meltdown. Most just haven't learned squat from that fiasco.
Yes, I realize there are less fortunate, but I'm talking about the general, large scale here.
You stuck the landing.
I didn’t have compassion for guys who got devastated in 2007 who were house poor due to the McMansion, private school for the kids and...my personal favorite...the $70k 4x4 truck and equally expensive Suburban in the driveway...both of which are only used to drive to the office, get groceries and drive to soccer practices. I won’t feel bad for those same types of folks now, either.
The working poor I feel bad for...but they will keep printing money until we get to the other side of this. Nobody is going Lord of the Flies during this pandemic.
...and this...
Quote:Kirk Herbstreit, the college football analyst who said nearly a month ago he would be “shocked” to see a football season of any kind due to the coronavirus pandemic, believes everything is being done to avoid such a scenario. And that includes a college football campaign in the spring.
“They’re going to do everything they can if it comes to that extreme to be able to potentially have a 2020 season,” the ESPN/ABC broadcaster said on a conference call Monday.
Herbstreit, who will be part of the NFL draft coverage on ABC this week, described moving the season to the spring as a “last-ditch effort,” the final of many contingency plans being worked on by “decision-makers” in the sport. That plan would entail the season beginning as late as February or March, with the College Football Playoff being held in June. According to Herbstreit, it “just proves how willing the administrators are with the NCAA and the conference commissioners and the ADs and the presidents to have a college football season.”
On March 27, Herbstreit went on ESPN Radio and said he would be “shocked” if NFL and college football seasons went on as scheduled in the fall. On the conference call, he walked back those comments, saying he was “just thinking out loud at that point.”
“It was the day baseball was supposed to start, Opening Day, and we were reminiscing about how sad it is that we weren’t having any baseball,” he said. “I was like, ‘Hey, man, this thing’s scary. We may not even have football. … I was trying to explain how real this pandemic is.”
It obviously remains a fluid situation. College campuses nationwide are closed, and it remains uncertain when they will open. On a conference call with Vice President Mike Pence last week, the College Football Playoff Management Committee — which consists of commissioners from the Power Five and Group of Five conferences along with Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick — made it clear there will be no games until students are back on campus.
If college football does have to push its season into the spring, one potential storyline to follow, Herbstreit believes, is the sport could be missing its premier players. The top draft-eligible prospects would have a tough choice to make: Play out the season, risking injury, or train and prepare for the draft? It would create a quandary for the likes of Clemson’s Trevor Lawrence and Ohio State’s Justin Fields.
Herbster spoke too soon
Gee, that lasted long. Good advice: know what you're saying, who you're saying it to, and when to say it. Any bettors on how quickly it took Randy Edsall to get on the horn to the University President after hearing this? Fuggin' UGone...
Quote:UConn president Tom Katsouleas created a stir Tuesday afternoon when he addressed the possibility of fall sports being canceled due to the coronavirus while speaking to a university class.
"Current thinking is that likely fall sports will be canceled — with the exception of those that can be played at a safe distance,” Katsouleas told a journalism class on Tuesday, according to a tweet from @UCTVSports, the account for the sports department of the college’s student-run TV station.
However, UConn quickly walked back the statement, which touched off speculation about the loss of the college football season. Spokesperson Stephanie Reitz, who was on the video conference with Katsouleas and the students, said, “it was a misunderstanding about the phrasing of what he said. ... fall sports are still on.”
The quote was accurate, Reitz said, but Katsouleas’ preface was that fall sports would be canceled if coronavirus conditions did not improve between now and then. “Which, of course, we hope it does,” she said.
Athletics department spokesperson Pat McKenna said in a statement, "At this point in time, there have been no decisions made to cancel fall sports at UConn. That action would be premature and we will continue to work with our state and local officials, as well as our conference and the NCAA on such matters.”
Kotsouleas’ quote was widely circulated on social media within minutes, and interpreted as an indication that such a decision was imminent or inevitable.
Walk It The Eff Back
(04-21-2020 03:09 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]To the topic at hand.
UConn football is so bad it should be cancelled even without The Wuhan Flu.
Uconn Lol. Far too early in advance for anyone to know. I’m sure discussions are being had about the possibility so they are prepared though. More importantly, why is someone in the position of president of a university making such speculative comments in public? Makes sense why Uconn is now regarded as one of the biggest jokes in the college sports world. Poor Leadership=Bad Decisions
I’ll wait for a statement from the NCAA and/or the SEC.
I could see the NCAA saying no football and the SEC saying F you we are playing on Saturdays or we’re outta here. Joking but then again maybe not.
I think there is a Aresco quote where he basically takes the stance that if the schools have online classes then he feels they are in session and sports should go on.
AD's and Conference leaders want football to avoid financial ruin but you basically need all of division 1 FBS on board to have a season and I don't think the presidents, student athletes, academic types, and non-athletic employees are in the same spot and they shouldn't be. This is still such a fluid situation its difficult to get a handle of the medical side of things without really good testing and tracking abilities which we don't have yet, let alone a treatment option.
I still think we see pro sports (without fans) this year but no college or high schools sports. I expect fall term is all online around most of the country this fall. I expect MLB to give a shot this summer as the first to dip back into the pool.
FYI: I still somewhat adjunct at a non-sports institution. You can read between the lines from emails that online courses could be the primary or exclusive option this fall. The college was moving in that direction before the virus but I think this just pushes it forward a bit. Division 1-FBS school are a different breed but college presidents are still risk adverse and would rather take a hit in the bottom line than have a campus health crisis in my view.
Spring football is interesting, if the situation is under control then go for it, even 6 to 8 games with a playoff would be very interesting. Side note, UC needs to stop asking for season ticket renewals at this point. It is a bad look to ask for money when people are just trying to figure out where the next paycheck is coming from.
Student health crisis is far more likely from binge drinking and bad weed. Please remember the stats that say there is virtually no harm to those under 40.
And private colleges wirh small endowments will have no choice to open or face permanent closure. Seriously, who is going to pay $45,000 and up to take online courses from your bedroom at Xavier, Denison, or Oberlin? They are businesses and just like your barber, or salon for you metrosexuals, they need lots of customers to stay afloat.
Local youth baseball league in Warren County just sent out a post that practice begins May 15 with first games
May 30.
Has Corryville Carl weighed in yet? I'm curious to hear what his sources are saying.
(04-21-2020 10:38 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: [ -> ]Student health crisis is far more likely from binge drinking and bad weed. Please remember the stats that say there is virtually no harm to those under 40.
And private colleges wirh small endowments will have no choice to open or face permanent closure. Seriously, who is going to pay $45,000 and up to take online courses from your bedroom at Xavier, Denison, or Oberlin? They are businesses and just like your barber, or salon for you metrosexuals, they need lots of customers to stay afloat.
Did the 1970s write this post?
(04-21-2020 10:38 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: [ -> ]Student health crisis is far more likely from binge drinking and bad weed. Please remember the stats that say there is virtually no harm to those under 40.
And private colleges wirh small endowments will have no choice to open or face permanent closure. Seriously, who is going to pay $45,000 and up to take online courses from your bedroom at Xavier, Denison, or Oberlin? They are businesses and just like your barber, or salon for you metrosexuals, they need lots of customers to stay afloat.
You picked the three private institutions with huge endowments...$170M, $840M, and $945M respectively. If you're trying to find schools with small endowments and non-existent remote learning options, look no further than Defiance, Bluffton, Antioch, Malone, and Lourdes. At least a few of them are going the way of the dodo here shortly unless quite a few things change....they all have endowments under $20M, which likely wouldn't even cover a year of expenses, and all of them have seen enrollment declines of 20%+ in the last 5-8 years.
(04-22-2020 08:44 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2020 10:38 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: [ -> ]Student health crisis is far more likely from binge drinking and bad weed. Please remember the stats that say there is virtually no harm to those under 40.
And private colleges wirh small endowments will have no choice to open or face permanent closure. Seriously, who is going to pay $45,000 and up to take online courses from your bedroom at Xavier, Denison, or Oberlin? They are businesses and just like your barber, or salon for you metrosexuals, they need lots of customers to stay afloat.
Did the 1970s write this post?
Ha! Yeah, the only bad weed is the stuff that doesn't do it's job......
(04-22-2020 08:52 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2020 10:38 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: [ -> ]Student health crisis is far more likely from binge drinking and bad weed. Please remember the stats that say there is virtually no harm to those under 40.
And private colleges wirh small endowments will have no choice to open or face permanent closure. Seriously, who is going to pay $45,000 and up to take online courses from your bedroom at Xavier, Denison, or Oberlin? They are businesses and just like your barber, or salon for you metrosexuals, they need lots of customers to stay afloat.
You picked the three private institutions with huge endowments...$170M, $840M, and $945M respectively. If you're trying to find schools with small endowments and non-existent remote learning options, look no further than Defiance, Bluffton, Antioch, Malone, and Lourdes. At least a few of them are going the way of the dodo here shortly unless quite a few things change....they all have endowments under $20M, which likely wouldn't even cover a year of expenses, and all of them have seen enrollment declines of 20%+ in the last 5-8 years.
To that point, Urbana is shutting its doors:
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200421/o...enrollment