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(11-03-2016 08:06 AM)Proff Wrote: [ -> ]damnyankees

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(11-03-2016 08:01 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]Mullet, being a Yankees fan i'm curious as to what you think of Girardi? The types of moves Maddon made that we are criticizing are typical Girardi type over manage moves. I'm a diehard and I absolutely despise Girardi and always have.

I am not a big fan of Girardi as a manager. I think he is in over his head there, very reactive,seems to not have a clue from one day to the next what is happening with his own team. Its funny because I think he is a very smart guy and would make a great bench coach but seems to lack something as a manager. I think Maddon fits that same mold to a lesser degree. I watched Maddon at Tampa and always thought the guy is just stubborn as a mule at times. Not sure Girardi is good with younger players either-have heard some stories about him not playing guys until forced by Cashman to put them on the field.
I think and hope next year will be his last. I don't see them competing for the post season next season unless a ton of younger kids play great and in NY that is not an easy thing to do.

(11-03-2016 07:41 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]Maddon was beyond terrible and I thought kept Cleveland in the game with one made bad move after another. They won in spite of him and if they had lost he would have been in hot water with the fan base and maybe he loses his job. The guy is so overrated its a joke. I am biased of course but he made the case for me to rip his ass.

That's over the top, but I disagreed with his decision to bring in Lester when he did. Most of the post-game interviews were celebratory, so I don't know that he's been asked about the timing. Thinking along with him, I assume he wanted the lefty-lefty match up with Lester and Kipnis. Hendricks was rolling though, and seemingly getting better. I wouldn't have taken him out there, but Cleveland's runs in the 5th were flukish. Their 3rd swinging bunt hit of the series and a wild pitch. It was the wrong move in my mind, but it was magnified by flukish results. And, of course, I was wrong regarding Chapman. He just didn't have anything left in the tank. Absolutely can not criticize Chapman there, Maddon's move in game 6 hurt them and almost cost them a championship. Chapman has always been a rental to me, but he endeared himself to the fans last night. Gutsy performance to come out and get three outs in the 9th, against the heart of the order.

Maddon is a good manager. He's not overrated. He's not a joke. He's really good for this team, and he managed a young team to 103 wins and a championship. If you're biased, maybe you still don't give him any credit. He made mistakes in the playoffs, but so did Tito who happens to be 11-4 in the WS.

(10-26-2016 11:26 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty hard to flip the switch against a team as good as Cleveland. They are completely different than the Dodgers and have much better pitching than LA.

This Cubs team counts on the HR and the Indians counter that with breaking balls down in the zone. The team that catches the ball and runs the bases tonight is hard to beat. Go Indians!

(11-03-2016 07:41 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]Without question the Cubs had more talent on the field at all times and basically rode that to the win.

After game 1, Cubs had no shot because the Indians were too good to flip the switch. Cubs come back from 3-1 series hole and it was because they had more talent all over the field. Squeeze whatever narrative you'd like, Mullet.

(11-03-2016 08:54 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-03-2016 07:41 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]Maddon was beyond terrible and I thought kept Cleveland in the game with one made bad move after another. They won in spite of him and if they had lost he would have been in hot water with the fan base and maybe he loses his job. The guy is so overrated its a joke. I am biased of course but he made the case for me to rip his ass.

That's over the top, but I disagreed with his decision to bring in Lester when he did. Most of the post-game interviews were celebratory, so I don't know that he's been asked about the timing. Thinking along with him, I assume he wanted the lefty-lefty match up with Lester and Kipnis. Hendricks was rolling though, and seemingly getting better. I wouldn't have taken him out there, but Cleveland's runs in the 5th were flukish. Their 3rd swinging bunt hit of the series and a wild pitch. It was the wrong move in my mind, but it was magnified by flukish results. And, of course, I was wrong regarding Chapman. He just didn't have anything left in the tank. Absolutely can not criticize Chapman there, Maddon's move in game 6 hurt them and almost cost them a championship. Chapman has always been a rental to me, but he endeared himself to the fans last night. Gutsy performance to come out and get three outs in the 9th, against the heart of the order.

Maddon is a good manager. He's not overrated. He's not a joke. He's really good for this team, and he managed a young team to 103 wins and a championship. If you're biased, maybe you still don't give him any credit. He made mistakes in the playoffs, but so did Tito who happens to be 11-4 in the WS.

He has been getting killed by everybody for obvious reasons and I think IF they had lost it would be put on him and I think he would be fired by the fan base and maybe Theo lets him go. The guy had a team that any good baseball coach could win 100 games with. They were better than the Indians at least 6 out of 8 positions on the field every game. Maddon choked bigtime and got bailed out by hitters not pitchers. Go to any college game and you will see better coaching than what you saw out of him in the WS. The guy is an ass clown for the most part and has rode his wave to the top somehow in spite of it. Tito made some decisions that did not work out but he also did not have the roster that the Cubs have. we will see how many they win in the next few years but for now I guess he is a hero of sorts for people who don't know **** about baseball. I give him zero credit for them winning it-they have a great group of players.

(11-03-2016 08:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2016 11:26 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty hard to flip the switch against a team as good as Cleveland. They are completely different than the Dodgers and have much better pitching than LA.

This Cubs team counts on the HR and the Indians counter that with breaking balls down in the zone. The team that catches the ball and runs the bases tonight is hard to beat. Go Indians!

(11-03-2016 07:41 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]Without question the Cubs had more talent on the field at all times and basically rode that to the win.

After game 1, Cubs had no shot because the Indians were too good to flip the switch. Cubs come back from 3-1 series hole and it was because they had more talent all over the field. Squeeze whatever narrative you'd like, Mullet.

Everybody knew including me that the Cubs had the best roster-without question. Go through it by position and they have great players all over the field and on the bench.

WE know where Mullet stood on Maddon before the postseason so discount it if you will. I, had him at or very near the top of my "managerial mountain" coming in. He's definitely taken a step back there IMO. He over managed the hell out of games 6 and 7 and the won despite him. If they had lost that game last night he might have replaced the Billy Goat, and Bartman as the most wanted in Chi town. Anyways, congrats on the W, hell of a game 7 for sure.

(10-31-2016 02:52 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]He has been getting killed by everybody for obvious reasons and I think IF they had lost it would be put on him and I think he would be fired by the fan base and maybe Theo lets him go. The guy had a team that any good baseball coach could win 100 games with. They were better than the Indians at least 6 out of 8 positions on the field every game. Maddon choked bigtime and got bailed out by hitters not pitchers. Go to any college game and you will see better coaching than what you saw out of him in the WS. The guy is an ass clown for the most part and has rode his wave to the top somehow in spite of it. Tito made some decisions that did not work out but he also did not have the roster that the Cubs have. we will see how many they win in the next few years but for now I guess he is a hero of sorts for people who don't know **** about baseball. I give him zero credit for them winning it-they have a great group of players.

That will probably devastate him, as much as your valued opinion devastates me.

Pitching Staff - You're on the record stating Cleveland has the superior staff, when you consider the pen. Advantage Cleveland according to you.

Postions 3, 5, 7 and 8 went to Chicago

Positions 2, 4 and 6 go to Cleveland

Neither team got much out of RF, so I'd call it a push. So, Chicago didn't have an advantage "at least 6 out of 8 positions". It more accurate to state that they had an advantage at 4 of 7 positions.

There is so much to enjoy about this championship, and it's a little sweeter knowing it pisses you off seeing Maddon holding up the trophy.

(11-03-2016 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]WE know where Mullet stood on Maddon before the postseason so discount it if you will. I, had him at or very near the top of my "managerial mountain" coming in. He's definitely taken a step back there IMO. He over managed the hell out of games 6 and 7

Absolutely, 100% fair. I agree!

Congrats Cubs fans! That was an unbelievable series.

That was the best baseball game I have ever watched

(11-03-2016 09:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-03-2016 09:18 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]WE know where Mullet stood on Maddon before the postseason so discount it if you will. I, had him at or very near the top of my "managerial mountain" coming in. He's definitely taken a step back there IMO. He over managed the hell out of games 6 and 7

Absolutely, 100% fair. I agree!

Doing some cherry picking here I see,why not use the entire post? Maddon was horrible and you know it. The guy was bailed out by the hitters and don't forget they were the heavy favorites going into series and were still favored going back to Cleveland. Cleveland had good pitching and defense,baserunnnig but the huge difference in overall talent won out in the end.
I like the Cubs but don't care for Maddon as you know. He proved himself to be the one person that might be able to beat the Cubs this season. Overrated and a jerk from way back.

They weren't favored going back to Cleveland until Game 7.

Mullet, we all know. He was mean to your cousin. We've got it and I have it on good authority that Theo is going to make him go to his room until he says he's sorry.

It seems pretty obvious that I replied that I agree 100% with the aspects I was quoting and left out the statements I didn't completely agree with. Maddon was a huge reason why we were there, and he made a few questionable pitching decisions. I wouldn't say they won despite him. He was going to be crucified if they had lost last night, but I don't really care about the curse or Bartman.

(11-03-2016 03:13 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: [ -> ]They weren't favored going back to Cleveland until Game 7.

They were favored in games six and seven in Cleveland by Vegas.

Vegas had the Dodgers in the World Series too. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

(11-03-2016 09:00 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]Vegas had the Dodgers in the World Series too. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Congrats to the Cubs and the their fans,it was a great season for them.
Like most Yankee fans we know they will be back in the hunt very soon to add more championships-27 and counting!! Moving on to next season-its over for now.

(11-04-2016 08:06 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-03-2016 09:00 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]Vegas had the Dodgers in the World Series too. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Congrats to the Cubs and the their fans,it was a great season for them.
Like most Yankee fans we know they will be back in the hunt very soon to add more championships-27 and counting!! Moving on to next season-its over for now.

When your team is out, the best part of baseball is just beginning, it's HOT STOVE SEASON!

2017 Cubs under contract:

28.167 million - Heyward
25 million - Lester
16.5 million - Zobrist
16 million - Lackey
14 million - Montero
7.286 million - Rizzo
3.667 million - Soler
9 million option - Hammel

Total - 119.62 million

Arbitration guys and what they got this year:

10.7 million - Arrieta
4.4 million - Strop
4.2 million - Rondon
1.275 million - Grimm

Guys on rookie deals making around 550-600K each:

Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Baez, Hendricks, La Stella, Szczur, Edwards, Almora, Montgomery, Contreras

So when you factor in arbitration raises, we are gonna have 23 guys under contract making about 152 million.

This year’s payroll was in the 170-180 million range including trades made mid-season. So we should have 30 million to work with if we want and 2 spots on the 25 man roster right now. It would seem that the obvious spot to put that money would be the bullpen.

Biggest questions for Cubs will be Fowler and bullpen. I think we ultimately lose Fowler and start Heyward in CF with Zobrist leading off. Personally, I'd rather see Jansen signed than Chapman. Next year we'll rely more heavily on CJ Edwards and a healthy Strop. I think we approach at least 2 big pen signings, plus a LOOGY to replace Travis Wood.

(11-04-2016 10:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]2017 Cubs under contract:

28.167 million - Heyward
25 million - Lester
16.5 million - Zobrist
16 million - Lackey
14 million - Montero
7.286 million - Rizzo
3.667 million - Soler
9 million option - Hammel

Total - 119.62 million

Arbitration guys and what they got this year:

10.7 million - Arrieta
4.4 million - Strop
4.2 million - Rondon
1.275 million - Grimm

Guys on rookie deals making around 550-600K each:

Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Baez, Hendricks, La Stella, Szczur, Edwards, Almora, Montgomery, Contreras

So when you factor in arbitration raises, we are gonna have 23 guys under contract making about 152 million.

This year’s payroll was in the 170-180 million range including trades made mid-season. So we should have 30 million to work with if we want and 2 spots on the 25 man roster right now. It would seem that the obvious spot to put that money would be the bullpen.

Biggest questions for Cubs will be Fowler and bullpen. I think we ultimately lose Fowler and start Heyward in CF with Zobrist leading off. Personally, I'd rather see Jansen signed than Chapman. Next year we'll rely more heavily on CJ Edwards and a healthy strop. I think we approach at least 2 big pen signings, plus a LOOGY to replace Travis Wood.

I'm hoping the Yanks go after either Jansen or Melancon