(10-08-2021 12:59 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:52 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:36 PM)Ranger Wrote: [ -> ]What a let down. I received an email blast from Leebron and was sufficiently naive to think it was to announce our movement to an upgraded conference.
Did his letter even mention athletics? I got bored after several paragraphs about how hard dealing with Covid is and how exclusive and diverse Rice is.
Just our athletic alumni that won Olympic or Paralympic medals and the mention of the homecoming football game
The fact he had nothing to say about the current athletes and Athletic programs says a lot.
Glad he at least mentioned the Olympic alumni.
(10-08-2021 12:36 PM)Ranger Wrote: [ -> ]What a let down. I received an email blast from Leebron and was sufficiently naive to think it was to announce our movement to an upgraded conference.
That bastard
Leebron had not been at Rice long when the Owls went first to the New Orleans Bowl and then to the Texas Bowl. People I know in fundraising at Rice say that he was hugely impressed by the number of alumni who turned out for those games and began to see athletics, and football in particular, as a tremendous fundraising vehicle. His attitude today seems to be vastly different. I would tend to say that I really liked him until the Baylor Med fell through, but haven't had many, if any, positive thoughts about him since.
My brother graduated from Auburn. They definitely see athletics, and football in particular, as a major alumni fund-raising activity. I've told the story of the "kick six" game here a couple of times, and won't repeat it here.
(10-08-2021 07:34 AM)MerseyOwl Wrote: [ -> ]The AAC have a lot of attitude, but not much self-awareness. (It reminds me of many a poster on this board that is exasperated by the fact that Rice's invitation to the Big10, Big12, Pac12, and/or the ACC has apparently been lost in the mail.)
Aresco, the big bully, went to take the Big12's lunch money and came back wearing only his underpants. In losing three mega public schools (40k+ to 70k enrollment) to the Big12, the AAC isn't looking so strong and isn't looking so attractive. All they seemingly have retained is their bravado. San Diego St and Boise State want to make a single move up the ladder so rebuffed AAC's advances as did Air Force and Colorado State.
If the Mountain West wanted to further expand they could extend invitations to (in no particular order) SMU, Tulsa, and/or Tulane. UTSA and even Rice could be added to the mix. The AAC would find itself in dire straights and no longer a self-appointed member of the P6.
That's funny.
Yeah, the MWC appears to be planning to expand, specifically into Texas.
I'd think SMU and UTSA would be the most obvious choices, but maybe we have a decent shot.
Most university presidents use athletics as a fund raiser because it gives a chance to talk to prospective donors in person.
(10-08-2021 04:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Leebron had not been at Rice long when the Owls went first to the New Orleans Bowl and then to the Texas Bowl. People I know in fundraising at Rice say that he was hugely impressed by the number of alumni who turned out for those games and began to see athletics, and football in particular, as a tremendous fundraising vehicle. His attitude today seems to be vastly different. I would tend to say that I really liked him until the Baylor Med fell through, but haven't had many, if any, positive thoughts about him since.
My brother graduated from Auburn. They definitely see athletics, and football in particular, as a major alumni fund-raising activity. I've told the story of the "kick six" game here a couple of times, and won't repeat it here.
(10-09-2021 01:06 AM)75src Wrote: [ -> ]Most university presidents use athletics as a fund raiser because it gives a chance to talk to prospective donors in person.
(10-08-2021 04:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Leebron had not been at Rice long when the Owls went first to the New Orleans Bowl and then to the Texas Bowl. People I know in fundraising at Rice say that he was hugely impressed by the number of alumni who turned out for those games and began to see athletics, and football in particular, as a tremendous fundraising vehicle. His attitude today seems to be vastly different. I would tend to say that I really liked him until the Baylor Med fell through, but haven't had many, if any, positive thoughts about him since.
My brother graduated from Auburn. They definitely see athletics, and football in particular, as a major alumni fund-raising activity. I've told the story of the "kick six" game here a couple of times, and won't repeat it here.
Aren't our top two single-day alumni gatherings ever for the 2003 baseball championship and the 2012 Armed Forces Bowl?
(10-08-2021 01:35 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:59 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:52 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:36 PM)Ranger Wrote: [ -> ]What a let down. I received an email blast from Leebron and was sufficiently naive to think it was to announce our movement to an upgraded conference.
Did his letter even mention athletics? I got bored after several paragraphs about how hard dealing with Covid is and how exclusive and diverse Rice is.
Just our athletic alumni that won Olympic or Paralympic medals and the mention of the homecoming football game
The fact he had nothing to say about the current athletes and Athletic programs says a lot.
Glad he at least mentioned the Olympic alumni.
And he mentioned the homecoming football game.
The Rice accomplishments he listed are impressive. I can understand that it would be hard to follow with Joe Karlgaard has our football program mentioned in the Bottom 10, and athletic peer UAB seems favored over Rice for admission into the AAC.
(10-09-2021 12:33 PM)ESE84 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 01:35 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:59 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:52 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-08-2021 12:36 PM)Ranger Wrote: [ -> ]What a let down. I received an email blast from Leebron and was sufficiently naive to think it was to announce our movement to an upgraded conference.
Did his letter even mention athletics? I got bored after several paragraphs about how hard dealing with Covid is and how exclusive and diverse Rice is.
Just our athletic alumni that won Olympic or Paralympic medals and the mention of the homecoming football game
The fact he had nothing to say about the current athletes and Athletic programs says a lot.
Glad he at least mentioned the Olympic alumni.
And he mentioned the homecoming football game.
The Rice accomplishments he listed are impressive. I can understand that it would be hard to follow with Joe Karlgaard has our football program mentioned in the Bottom 10, and athletic peer UAB seems favored over Rice for admission into the AAC.
I discounted the homecoming football game because I believe that mention was more about homecoming than football. If not, why single out that one football game? There are two other remaining home games on the schedule.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ed-monday/
C-USA presidents are going to review a plan to reorganize C-USA, the Sun Belt, and the American by regions on Monday and discuss it in-person the following week. The Sun Belt and American conference offices have already both publicly rejected it. C-USA requested this plan be put together by former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney (1989-2020) who enlisted the help of former Big XII commissioner Kevin Weiberg (1998-2007).
It's not coming from a position of strength, but I think C-USA is looking at the American as being severely weakened with its recent losses and worried that the MWC might pick on it even before the XII possibly comes back to take Memphis in a few years. C-USA is worried that we'll be the losers overall if this realignment proceeds the same way prior ones did, and we're certainly not going to talk anyone into joining with us. If an alternative plan could be viable, C-USA has to be the ones to start selling it.
I doubt it gets anywhere, but at least CUSA is trying to take the reins on some sort of plan.
Better in the days were in the Southwest Conference.
(10-09-2021 12:17 PM)franklyconfused Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2021 01:06 AM)75src Wrote: [ -> ]Most university presidents use athletics as a fund raiser because it gives a chance to talk to prospective donors in person.
(10-08-2021 04:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Leebron had not been at Rice long when the Owls went first to the New Orleans Bowl and then to the Texas Bowl. People I know in fundraising at Rice say that he was hugely impressed by the number of alumni who turned out for those games and began to see athletics, and football in particular, as a tremendous fundraising vehicle. His attitude today seems to be vastly different. I would tend to say that I really liked him until the Baylor Med fell through, but haven't had many, if any, positive thoughts about him since.
My brother graduated from Auburn. They definitely see athletics, and football in particular, as a major alumni fund-raising activity. I've told the story of the "kick six" game here a couple of times, and won't repeat it here.
Aren't our top two single-day alumni gatherings ever for the 2003 baseball championship and the 2012 Armed Forces Bowl?
(10-09-2021 06:52 PM)franklyconfused Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ed-monday/
C-USA presidents are going to review a plan to reorganize C-USA, the Sun Belt, and the American by regions on Monday and discuss it in-person the following week. The Sun Belt and American conference offices have already both publicly rejected it. C-USA requested this plan be put together by former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney (1989-2020) who enlisted the help of former Big XII commissioner Kevin Weiberg (1998-2007).
It's not coming from a position of strength, but I think C-USA is looking at the American as being severely weakened with its recent losses and worried that the MWC might pick on it even before the XII possibly comes back to take Memphis in a few years. C-USA is worried that we'll be the losers overall if this realignment proceeds the same way prior ones did, and we're certainly not going to talk anyone into joining with us. If an alternative plan could be viable, C-USA has to be the ones to start selling it.
SI picked this up today.
I really like that this focuses on geographic locations and trying to develop some decent rivalries. But yeah, I don't see it winning out.
Quote:C-USA’s regionalization model would serve as an alternative option to the domino effect of realignment, potentially slowing any future movement on the G5 level. However, most within the college sports industry believe it to be a long shot. AAC commissioner Mike Aresco has publicly spoken against any type of merger plan...
The western conference would include SMU, North Texas, Rice, UTEP, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, Wichita State, UAB, Memphis and UTSA. The eastern conference would feature East Carolina, Charlotte, Old Dominion, Temple, Marshall, FAU, FIU, South Florida, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and two potential new additions.
This would provide more geographic-friendly matchups and would eliminate distant trips. For instance, Temple and SMU, separated by 1,600 miles, are both in the American. In the reorganization proposal, the Owls and Mustangs would be in separate conferences.
https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/12/co...t-football
There's tweet from a San Antonio reporter that suggests UTSA is talking to the MWC. It's on the conference board.
(10-12-2021 10:11 PM)Ourland Wrote: [ -> ]There's tweet from a San Antonio reporter that suggests UTSA is talking to the MWC. It's on the conference board.
Looks to be faked.
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If any part of this ends well for Rice, I will be pleasantly astonished.
(10-12-2021 03:02 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2021 06:52 PM)franklyconfused Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ed-monday/
C-USA presidents are going to review a plan to reorganize C-USA, the Sun Belt, and the American by regions on Monday and discuss it in-person the following week. The Sun Belt and American conference offices have already both publicly rejected it. C-USA requested this plan be put together by former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney (1989-2020) who enlisted the help of former Big XII commissioner Kevin Weiberg (1998-2007).
It's not coming from a position of strength, but I think C-USA is looking at the American as being severely weakened with its recent losses and worried that the MWC might pick on it even before the XII possibly comes back to take Memphis in a few years. C-USA is worried that we'll be the losers overall if this realignment proceeds the same way prior ones did, and we're certainly not going to talk anyone into joining with us. If an alternative plan could be viable, C-USA has to be the ones to start selling it.
SI picked this up today.
I really like that this focuses on geographic locations and trying to develop some decent rivalries. But yeah, I don't see it winning out.
Quote:C-USA’s regionalization model would serve as an alternative option to the domino effect of realignment, potentially slowing any future movement on the G5 level. However, most within the college sports industry believe it to be a long shot. AAC commissioner Mike Aresco has publicly spoken against any type of merger plan...
The western conference would include SMU, North Texas, Rice, UTEP, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, Wichita State, UAB, Memphis and UTSA. The eastern conference would feature East Carolina, Charlotte, Old Dominion, Temple, Marshall, FAU, FIU, South Florida, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and two potential new additions.
This would provide more geographic-friendly matchups and would eliminate distant trips. For instance, Temple and SMU, separated by 1,600 miles, are both in the American. In the reorganization proposal, the Owls and Mustangs would be in separate conferences.
https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/12/co...t-football
This would be awesome!, but a total step down for SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis, so it's hard to see them agreeing to it.
If UAB and/or Florida Atlantic are invited to join the AAC, they will accept in a nanosecond. The remainder of the dregs of C-USA might beg the Sun Belt for a geographically based merger. If I were the Sun Belt, I would reject the merger, and would urge Western Kentucky and North Texas to rejoin their league.
(10-12-2021 10:57 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote: [ -> ] (10-12-2021 03:02 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2021 06:52 PM)franklyconfused Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ed-monday/
C-USA presidents are going to review a plan to reorganize C-USA, the Sun Belt, and the American by regions on Monday and discuss it in-person the following week. The Sun Belt and American conference offices have already both publicly rejected it. C-USA requested this plan be put together by former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney (1989-2020) who enlisted the help of former Big XII commissioner Kevin Weiberg (1998-2007).
It's not coming from a position of strength, but I think C-USA is looking at the American as being severely weakened with its recent losses and worried that the MWC might pick on it even before the XII possibly comes back to take Memphis in a few years. C-USA is worried that we'll be the losers overall if this realignment proceeds the same way prior ones did, and we're certainly not going to talk anyone into joining with us. If an alternative plan could be viable, C-USA has to be the ones to start selling it.
SI picked this up today.
I really like that this focuses on geographic locations and trying to develop some decent rivalries. But yeah, I don't see it winning out.
Quote:C-USA’s regionalization model would serve as an alternative option to the domino effect of realignment, potentially slowing any future movement on the G5 level. However, most within the college sports industry believe it to be a long shot. AAC commissioner Mike Aresco has publicly spoken against any type of merger plan...
The western conference would include SMU, North Texas, Rice, UTEP, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, Wichita State, UAB, Memphis and UTSA. The eastern conference would feature East Carolina, Charlotte, Old Dominion, Temple, Marshall, FAU, FIU, South Florida, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and two potential new additions.
This would provide more geographic-friendly matchups and would eliminate distant trips. For instance, Temple and SMU, separated by 1,600 miles, are both in the American. In the reorganization proposal, the Owls and Mustangs would be in separate conferences.
https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/12/co...t-football
This would be awesome!, but a total step down for SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis, so it's hard to see them agreeing to it.
Absolutely - the only way is if someone sees the light and realizes that the steps down are all really incrimental compared to the SEC/BIG/PAC12 money. Refocusing efforts around regionality has the chance to no only make life better on student athletes and save money, but generate more interest/ticket revenue for football games. Do we really think a lot of SMU fans are driving out to ECU?
(10-12-2021 10:24 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: [ -> ] (10-12-2021 10:11 PM)Ourland Wrote: [ -> ]There's tweet from a San Antonio reporter that suggests UTSA is talking to the MWC. It's on the conference board.
Looks to be faked.
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Looks like he fooled a lot of people. That twitter account likes to impersonate UTSA reporters, he uses their picture and changes his name to that of said reporter and starts to tweet stuff.