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(01-06-2022 03:55 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Fun report I saw today...

UC/UCF/Houston have accounted for roughly 63% of all AAC eyeballs in the two revenue sports so far this year. Cincinnati ended up just past the holy metric of 12,000,000 viewers this year...that is HUGE for TV money moving forward.

I ticked off an ECU fan on the BXII board that their issue is that despite getting 45K to their FB stadium; nobody wants to watch them on TV and that is why they will not get invited to a P5 conference. The days of your value being based on home attendance is so 2011. Its about eyeballs on the TV and streaming.

(01-06-2022 06:18 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2022 03:55 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Fun report I saw today...

UC/UCF/Houston have accounted for roughly 63% of all AAC eyeballs in the two revenue sports so far this year. Cincinnati ended up just past the holy metric of 12,000,000 viewers this year...that is HUGE for TV money moving forward.

I ticked off an ECU fan on the BXII board that their issue is that despite getting 45K to their FB stadium; nobody wants to watch them on TV and that is why they will not get invited to a P5 conference. The days of your value being based on home attendance is so 2011. Its about eyeballs on the TV and streaming.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

(01-06-2022 06:18 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2022 03:55 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Fun report I saw today...

UC/UCF/Houston have accounted for roughly 63% of all AAC eyeballs in the two revenue sports so far this year. Cincinnati ended up just past the holy metric of 12,000,000 viewers this year...that is HUGE for TV money moving forward.

I ticked off an ECU fan on the BXII board that their issue is that despite getting 45K to their FB stadium; nobody wants to watch them on TV and that is why they will not get invited to a P5 conference. The days of your value being based on home attendance is so 2011. Its about eyeballs on the TV and streaming.

Slight correction- TV viewing became the most important criterion in the 1970’s.

Even though it is not sports related, TV viewing made an enormous change in the US as well as the rest of the world on June 25, 1967. That was the day of the first, worldwide satellite broadcast. The broadcast featured The Beatles’ live recording session of “All You Need Is Love”. Suddenly, broadcasters had a tool to increase their audience greatly at a very low incremental cost.

One of those who jumped on that bandwagon was the Armed Forces Radio which also included TV broadcasts. What did they show live to the guys in ‘Nam? College sports. That started to build the audience. Many other companies that brokered or broadcast live TV also wanted to show college sports since the carriage fees at that time were cheap.

By the early to mid 70’s, colleges saw what was going on and dramatically raised the fees for carrying their product. It was too late for the middlemen to complain since there already a large audience.

BTW, UofL saw the importance of TV coming and that led to their hiring of Howard Schnellenberger after he won a national championship at The U.

Seems there are two Missouri Valley Conferences. One is football only. The other is non-football.

https://championshipsportsmedia.com/2021...andidates/

Article about more B12 expansion. Football and TV drive the bus.

They mention adding 4. Seems 4 good additions might be tough,

Memphis is my #1. Good FB, big stadium, good BB. Mediocre academics.

Boise State #2 - Football cache, kind of close to BYU. Mediocre academics,

CSU - New stadium, kind of close to BYU.

SMU - With TCU it brings no TV. Excellent academics.

USF - TV market. Should be good in FB but is not. UCF travel partner.

SDSU - Too far for non FB travel.

Military Academies. No thanks. Want all sports not FB only.

(01-10-2022 02:42 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]https://championshipsportsmedia.com/2021...andidates/

Article about more B12 expansion. Football and TV drive the bus.

They mention adding 4. Seems 4 good additions might be tough,

Memphis is my #1. Good FB, big stadium, good BB. Mediocre academics.

Boise State #2 - Football cache, kind of close to BYU. Mediocre academics,

CSU - New stadium, kind of close to BYU.

SMU - With TCU it brings no TV. Excellent academics.

USF - TV market. Should be good in FB but is not. UCF travel partner.

SDSU - Too far for non FB travel.

Military Academies. No thanks. Want all sports not FB only.

I'd be much more excited about the move to the B12 if UC were a central or mountain time zone school

(01-10-2022 03:06 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 02:42 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]https://championshipsportsmedia.com/2021...andidates/

Article about more B12 expansion. Football and TV drive the bus.

They mention adding 4. Seems 4 good additions might be tough,

Memphis is my #1. Good FB, big stadium, good BB. Mediocre academics.

Boise State #2 - Football cache, kind of close to BYU. Mediocre academics,

CSU - New stadium, kind of close to BYU.

SMU - With TCU it brings no TV. Excellent academics.

USF - TV market. Should be good in FB but is not. UCF travel partner.

SDSU - Too far for non FB travel.

Military Academies. No thanks. Want all sports not FB only.

I'd be much more excited about the move to the B12 if UC were a central or mountain time zone school

Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

(01-10-2022 04:08 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 03:06 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 02:42 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]https://championshipsportsmedia.com/2021...andidates/

Article about more B12 expansion. Football and TV drive the bus.

They mention adding 4. Seems 4 good additions might be tough,

Memphis is my #1. Good FB, big stadium, good BB. Mediocre academics.

Boise State #2 - Football cache, kind of close to BYU. Mediocre academics,

CSU - New stadium, kind of close to BYU.

SMU - With TCU it brings no TV. Excellent academics.

USF - TV market. Should be good in FB but is not. UCF travel partner.

SDSU - Too far for non FB travel.

Military Academies. No thanks. Want all sports not FB only.

I'd be much more excited about the move to the B12 if UC were a central or mountain time zone school

Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

I prefer Champ Game at Mercedes Benz in NOLA.

(01-10-2022 04:08 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

Actually, the more teams get added, the more it looks like a G5 conference to me.

(01-10-2022 07:53 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 04:08 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

Actually, the more teams get added, the more it looks like a G5 conference to me.

100% agree. Only candidate on that list is Memphis imo. Otherwise you wait for another p5 to implode and try to poach from there - AZ schools, Colorado, Louisville, etc. We also need to stay alert and be aware that the B12 could crumble just as easily.

(01-10-2022 08:16 PM)Lurkercat Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 07:53 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 04:08 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

Actually, the more teams get added, the more it looks like a G5 conference to me.

100% agree. Only candidate on that list is Memphis imo. Otherwise you wait for another p5 to implode and try to poach from there - AZ schools, Colorado, Louisville, etc. We also need to stay alert and be aware that the B12 could crumble just as easily.

No one adds one team. I do not want any added unless teams from P12 such as CO, AZ, ASU, UT

(01-10-2022 11:11 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 08:16 PM)Lurkercat Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 07:53 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 04:08 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

Actually, the more teams get added, the more it looks like a G5 conference to me.

100% agree. Only candidate on that list is Memphis imo. Otherwise you wait for another p5 to implode and try to poach from there - AZ schools, Colorado, Louisville, etc. We also need to stay alert and be aware that the B12 could crumble just as easily.

No one adds one team. I do not want any added unless teams from P12 such as CO, AZ, ASU, UT

Agreed. Just responding with my 4 if they add 4 as article suggest. Think 12 is the perfect number for a conference. Sorry Memphis.

(01-10-2022 11:29 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:11 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 08:16 PM)Lurkercat Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 07:53 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 04:08 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 killed it with the obvious 3 schools to add now and being able to bring in BYU.

I'm a hard no on Boise. They are on the downhill track and have horrible location/academics.

Here is my current list of 2 schools and I would wait a bit to add the last 2 and see if they are even necessary altogether unless the networks are giving the go ahead and want the Big 12 to expand.

First 2 adds:
1) Memphis - Obvious and SEC recruiting land/fans. UC rivalry. Update/Renovate football stadium now!!!
2) San Diego St. - a) Travel partner for BYU b) New football stadium c) California recruiting d) Think this would defer any reason for Houston to Pac 12 e) Fun trip for fans
-Neither hurt the current Texas schools in recruiting Texas any further

Last 2 adds (1-6 not in any order):
1) USF - Florida recruiting, rivalry with UCF. East. Currently suck at the 2 big sports. History with UC/WV.
2) UAB - I think UAB has a lot of potential and would love to see where they are at in 3-5 years. Great new stadium in the heart of prime SEC football recruiting/fans. Next UCF?
3) SMU - The Big 12 has always been a mostly Texas conference. SMU has had recent success in both football and basketball. TCU rivalry and matchups against the rest of Texas
4) Colorado St. - New stadium but I don't see the point.
5) Tulane - Louisiana recruiting. Academics. Too small of a fanbase IMO and not good at sports, but great location and every conference has a smart school.
6) Navy - I'd prefer no service academies but they are a fun game to attend with good national fanbase. Would be fun with San Diego St. in conference as well.

If it was me I would go Memphis, San Diego St. UAB and probably USF as another Florida school and I don't think the Texas schools want any further competition recruiting their state.

Football Scheduling Alliance East:
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas
Memphis
UAB
UCF
USF

Football Scheduling Alliance West:
BYU
San Diego St.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Oklahoma St
Houston
Kansas State
TCU

Football Conference Championship @ Dallas/Jerry World
Basketball Conference Championship @ Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando or rotation

That is a nice looking conference^

Actually, the more teams get added, the more it looks like a G5 conference to me.

100% agree. Only candidate on that list is Memphis imo. Otherwise you wait for another p5 to implode and try to poach from there - AZ schools, Colorado, Louisville, etc. We also need to stay alert and be aware that the B12 could crumble just as easily.

No one adds one team. I do not want any added unless teams from P12 such as CO, AZ, ASU, UT

Agreed. Just responding with my 4 if they add 4 as article suggest. Think 12 is the perfect number for a conference. Sorry Memphis.

Yes 12 is right unless adds from P12. That said I would have preferred Memphis over Houston, hut UH got the call because of TV Market.

(01-11-2022 07:17 AM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:29 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:11 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 08:16 PM)Lurkercat Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 07:53 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, the more teams get added, the more it looks like a G5 conference to me.

100% agree. Only candidate on that list is Memphis imo. Otherwise you wait for another p5 to implode and try to poach from there - AZ schools, Colorado, Louisville, etc. We also need to stay alert and be aware that the B12 could crumble just as easily.

No one adds one team. I do not want any added unless teams from P12 such as CO, AZ, ASU, UT

Agreed. Just responding with my 4 if they add 4 as article suggest. Think 12 is the perfect number for a conference. Sorry Memphis.

Yes 12 is right unless adds from P12. That said I would have preferred Memphis over Houston, hut UH got the call because of TV Market.

The perfect scenario would be if Louisville, Pitt, USF, and Memphis joined.

East: Cincinnati, WVU, Pitt, Louisville
South: Memphis, UCF, USF, Houston
Central: Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State
West: BYU, Kansas, K-State, Iowa State

That would be an incredible conference, geography works, rivalry games back, basketball, it would have everything.

(01-11-2022 07:37 AM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-11-2022 07:17 AM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:29 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:11 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 08:16 PM)Lurkercat Wrote: [ -> ]100% agree. Only candidate on that list is Memphis imo. Otherwise you wait for another p5 to implode and try to poach from there - AZ schools, Colorado, Louisville, etc. We also need to stay alert and be aware that the B12 could crumble just as easily.

No one adds one team. I do not want any added unless teams from P12 such as CO, AZ, ASU, UT

Agreed. Just responding with my 4 if they add 4 as article suggest. Think 12 is the perfect number for a conference. Sorry Memphis.

Yes 12 is right unless adds from P12. That said I would have preferred Memphis over Houston, hut UH got the call because of TV Market.

The perfect scenario would be if Louisville, Pitt, USF, and Memphis joined.

East: Cincinnati, WVU, Pitt, Louisville
South: Memphis, UCF, USF, Houston
Central: Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State
West: BYU, Kansas, K-State, Iowa State

That would be an incredible conference, geography works, rivalry games back, basketball, it would have everything.

Why would Pitt and Louisville leave the ACC? They wouldn’t… be realistic..

(01-11-2022 08:05 AM)uchoops Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-11-2022 07:37 AM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-11-2022 07:17 AM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:29 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-10-2022 11:11 PM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]No one adds one team. I do not want any added unless teams from P12 such as CO, AZ, ASU, UT

Agreed. Just responding with my 4 if they add 4 as article suggest. Think 12 is the perfect number for a conference. Sorry Memphis.

Yes 12 is right unless adds from P12. That said I would have preferred Memphis over Houston, hut UH got the call because of TV Market.

The perfect scenario would be if Louisville, Pitt, USF, and Memphis joined.

East: Cincinnati, WVU, Pitt, Louisville
South: Memphis, UCF, USF, Houston
Central: Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State
West: BYU, Kansas, K-State, Iowa State

That would be an incredible conference, geography works, rivalry games back, basketball, it would have everything.

Why would Pitt and Louisville leave the ACC? They wouldn’t… be realistic..

Because this thread would die now that were in a P5 conference without the crystal meth ideas coming out.

Yep, kind of hoped we'd put a stake through the heart of this thread last September, though it is interesting to track other conference realignment chatter.

Wholesale additions now from the G5 will dilute the image and reputation of the Big 12 and it will more closely resemble the American as a tweener conference. None of us have any say in the matter but I'd stay the course with the four new schools, build some rivalries, and establish this as at least the 3rd or 4th best P5 before entertaining any further expansion at the risk of becoming the AAC version 2.0.

(01-11-2022 08:29 AM)OKIcat Wrote: [ -> ]Yep, kind of hoped we'd put a stake through the heart of this thread last September, though it it interesting to track other conference realignment chatter.

Wholesale additions now from the G5 will dilute the image and reputation of the Big 12 and it will more closely resemble the American as a tweener conference. None of us have any say in the matter but I'd stay the course with the four new schools, build some rivalries, and establish this as at least the 3rd or 4th best P5 before entertaining any further expansion at the risk of becoming the AAC version 2.0.

Yep...clearly there is nothing to be gained by adding any other teams, lest the conference would've done so already....kind of why we were pining for an ACC addition all of those years and didn't get one. No sense to doing these hypothetical exercises anymore, I doubt there is going to be much more movement, as it would've happened with the Texas/Oklahoma stuff at this point.

I see no P5 changes for many years unless P12 has defections.

G5 may have some movement but who cares.

(01-11-2022 11:20 AM)doss2 Wrote: [ -> ]I see no P5 changes for many years unless P12 has defections.

G5 may have some movement but who cares.

It always seems to come about every 10 years. I won’t put any stock in any of the leftover G5’s getting their golden ticket until we are a year or two into the 2030s.