I think that there will be college football in some form.
From what I've read and heard, JMU is planning on having in-person classes this fall.
The NCAA is allowing schools to resume voluntary training for Football, MBB, WBB on June 1st.
I know colleges are making plans to bring the football players back to campus in the very near future. Does anyone know when JMU plans to open the campus so the players can return?
I've heard that Harrisonburg is considered a "hot Spot". Is this because of the outbreak at Accordius Health? Has this problem been contained?
I've read where the Mayor said, "the city is moving forward with reopening because the higher numbers in our area are because the area has done more testing."
What about a Socialist collective calling on Harrisonburg City Council to delay reopening plans?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/social...r-BB14zVHd
Is Harrisonburg in jeopardy of having their opening delayed? Is the city in jeopardy of falling behind the phases from the rest of Virginia?
(05-26-2020 01:57 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]Speaking of ASU
Why does Appy get Kyle Busch & JMU gets Hermie Sadler?
We got the Shemp of Sadlers
(05-27-2020 12:34 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]So Longhorn - what do you expect once classes are supposed to start in August for JMU. Talking just academics, not athletics?
What % do you give to live classes resuming on time?
What changes do you expect academically? Smaller class sizes, adding more classes based on smaller class sizes? etc.
a) Your speculation
b) Anything already discussed with the staff
All excellent questions, but I can only offer my guesses...I honestly can’t answer any of your questions with any sense of certainty.
JMU’s Senior Leadership is meeting almost constantly, and the planning process (at least on paper) is for a regular, on-time, on-campus opening for the Fall semester. Work on various contingencies for identifying and segregating students who show signs of the virus are in the works, as are ideas about how more online instruction can be supported. All this is still very fluid...online instruction is not what JMU is known for, and the unknowns make me extremely nervous. How the heck do you teach lab sciences online? How do you teach any discipline where “hands on” access to highly specialized equipment is fundamental to the learning process? The challenges are immense.
Good news. The number of incoming students who accepted their offer of admission, and who have paid their Fall reservation fees is high, and ahead of the numbers of past years. This is encouraging news, and projects well for the Fall enrollment to meet planned budget targets. That said, pre-paid reservations doesn’t mean the students will show up, and VT admissions is still up to no good impacting other state schools.
Every program (academic or otherwise) is presently on lockdown with respect to expenditures. It’s a real $$$ pinch, and how the hit from the last qtr. of this past FY impacts next year’s budget (starting July 1) is still up in the air.
I can say this: Class sizes are not likely to be smaller because the academic budget for hiring adjunct or part-time faculty has been zeroed out. It would be a good bet that class-sizes will actually increase, to the maximum the full-time faculty can support. There is going to be a belt-tightening all across the university, from previously planned construction projects, faculty and staff compensation, and other initiatives...they are all on hold.
Again, JMU is better positioned to weather this pandemic than almost any other institution I can think of, but like Bette Davis once said “Fasten your seat belts. It’s going to be a bumpy night.”
Yeah, the plan to potentially segregate infected students screams parallel online course. And yeah, I wonder how certain classes function online only. Thinking specifically about music ensembles, science labs and art students using shared equipment like kilns, etc...
DC lifts stay at home order Friday May 29!
(05-22-2020 02:56 PM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]I think part of the issue is that the people who can self distance and work from home or at least work and get a paycheck are the group that says lets all stay at home as it is the safest thing to do. People who own a small business or have not gotten a paycheck in two months look at this very differently. I personally know people who have small businesses that were extremely successful that will be good and gone soon if something does not change. One is a business that has been around for 30+ years and was very successful. It will most likely make it through because he has the resources to cover costs for a good while, but not for ever.
I don't believe any "extremely successful" or "30+ year....very successful" business is going under cause they couldn't open their doors for 3-4 months. Every financial advisor out there will tell you to carry 6+ months of expenses in an emergency fund and this is the case for businesses too, and especially feasible for those that are "extremely" or "very" successful. I'll admit I'm being nit picky but I think people are screaming that COVID is causing businesses to fail, but forgetting to mention these were likely bad businesses before COVID. COVID certainly isn't helping 99% of companies out there, but it seems to me that these people are blaming the woof for blowing over the house made of straw.
Honestly, this is more of a rant after all the facebook comments from people that act like they have doctorates in economics and screaming "OPEN SMALL BUSINESSES!" despite not being able to pass a basic business class, and less of a response to JMU98's actual post.
(05-27-2020 11:43 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, this is more of a rant after all the facebook comments from people that act like they have doctorates in economics and screaming "OPEN SMALL BUSINESSES!" despite not being able to pass a basic business class, and less of a response to JMU98's actual post.
Same group that shops at Walmart because they can get everything they need at the cheapest price?
(05-27-2020 11:43 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2020 02:56 PM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]I think part of the issue is that the people who can self distance and work from home or at least work and get a paycheck are the group that says lets all stay at home as it is the safest thing to do. People who own a small business or have not gotten a paycheck in two months look at this very differently. I personally know people who have small businesses that were extremely successful that will be good and gone soon if something does not change. One is a business that has been around for 30+ years and was very successful. It will most likely make it through because he has the resources to cover costs for a good while, but not for ever.
I don't believe any "extremely successful" or "30+ year....very successful" business is going under cause they couldn't open their doors for 3-4 months. Every financial advisor out there will tell you to carry 6+ months of expenses in an emergency fund and this is the case for businesses too, and especially feasible for those that are "extremely" or "very" successful. I'll admit I'm being nit picky but I think people are screaming that COVID is causing businesses to fail, but forgetting to mention these were likely bad businesses before COVID. COVID certainly isn't helping 99% of companies out there, but it seems to me that these people are blaming the woof for blowing over the house made of straw.
Honestly, this is more of a rant after all the facebook comments from people that act like they have doctorates in economics and screaming "OPEN SMALL BUSINESSES!" despite not being able to pass a basic business class, and less of a response to JMU98's actual post.
I noted that the particular business would most likely make it through because they have the resources, but it is a huge hit for them. He was able to get the PPP loan, but is actually paying his folks an extra 600 and a higher hourly wage (it is a restaurant) to cover the higher unemployment amount that they would receive. There are however many good businesses that run on razor thin margins where the company does not have the resources for this to last much longer especially considering that it's not like business goes totally back to normal on day one. The strongest businesses will survive and possibly thrive at some point due to less competition from other businesses that went out of business because of the shutdown. By the way most doctorates in economics couldn't run a small business to save their lives.
(05-28-2020 08:51 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]There are however many good businesses that run on razor thin margins where the company does not have the resources for this to last much longer
I think this is the point that DDD was making. If you have a business that runs on razor thin margins and doesn't have 3 months of buffer resources, I don't think you can rightly call it a 'good' business. You're describing a house of cards.
(05-28-2020 09:14 AM)bjk3047 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2020 08:51 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]There are however many good businesses that run on razor thin margins where the company does not have the resources for this to last much longer
I think this is the point that DDD was making. If you have a business that runs on razor thin margins and doesn't have 3 months of buffer resources, I don't think you can rightly call it a 'good' business. You're describing a house of cards.
Have you ever run a small business? What about a small business that started a year ago and was doing well until all of this happened but was not fully established enough to have a ton of cash reserves. How about your business is a seasonal business where you make all of your money during a 3 month period where if you don't open you are done? The resort where I have a house is family owned and is a multi-million dollar business each year. The business is hugely successful and has been open since 1957 and will most likely survive this, but not without some pain. However, when you have a huge physical plant and hundreds of employees to take care of and your revenues will be be down by millions of dollars this year you tell me that it is not going to take a ton out of people and cause great consternation. Ranked one of the top employers in the state of Pennsylvania consistently. This family pours hundreds of thousands if not millions into the business each year for improvements, etc. In some cases projects are so large that I am sure they take loans to do so that need to be paid. This is the epitome of a strong family owned business that depending on how all this goes will struggle to get through this.
And by the way, even so called weak small businesses employ millions in this country.
Small business(es) owner here. Not all businesses and their finances are the same. At all. Having 'cash reserves' for x-months means very different sums for every company. Definitely not black and white. I'd suspect a majority of businesses operate without this "buffer". Call it a house of cards if you want, but if people are employed people are getting paid. When the income runs out you don't get paid. Businesses have to be open to get income. The math is pretty simple there.
(05-27-2020 05:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-27-2020 12:34 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]So Longhorn - what do you expect once classes are supposed to start in August for JMU. Talking just academics, not athletics?
What % do you give to live classes resuming on time?
What changes do you expect academically? Smaller class sizes, adding more classes based on smaller class sizes? etc.
a) Your speculation
b) Anything already discussed with the staff
All excellent questions, but I can only offer my guesses...I honestly can’t answer any of your questions with any sense of certainty.
JMU’s Senior Leadership is meeting almost constantly, and the planning process (at least on paper) is for a regular, on-time, on-campus opening for the Fall semester. Work on various contingencies for identifying and segregating students who show signs of the virus are in the works, as are ideas about how more online instruction can be supported. All this is still very fluid...online instruction is not what JMU is known for, and the unknowns make me extremely nervous. How the heck do you teach lab sciences online? How do you teach any discipline where “hands on” access to highly specialized equipment is fundamental to the learning process? The challenges are immense.
Good news. The number of incoming students who accepted their offer of admission, and who have paid their Fall reservation fees is high, and ahead of the numbers of past years. This is encouraging news, and projects well for the Fall enrollment to meet planned budget targets. That said, pre-paid reservations doesn’t mean the students will show up, and VT admissions is still up to no good impacting other state schools.
Every program (academic or otherwise) is presently on lockdown with respect to expenditures. It’s a real $$$ pinch, and how the hit from the last qtr. of this past FY impacts next year’s budget (starting July 1) is still up in the air.
I can say this: Class sizes are not likely to be smaller because the academic budget for hiring adjunct or part-time faculty has been zeroed out. It would be a good bet that class-sizes will actually increase, to the maximum the full-time faculty can support. There is going to be a belt-tightening all across the university, from previously planned construction projects, faculty and staff compensation, and other initiatives...they are all on hold.
Again, JMU is better positioned to weather this pandemic than almost any other institution I can think of, but like Bette Davis once said “Fasten your seat belts. It’s going to be a bumpy night.”
LH,
Thanks for your response. Highlighted above you indicated class sizes would likely increase. I was thinking for social distancing reasons classes would likely be smaller. I can't recall any situations were bigger groups were intended to be created due to Covid-19. I know the grade schools are working on ways to create distancing. Suggested student my go every other day to reduce class size. Stores are limiting #s. Restaurants (that are allowed to open) are at reduced capacity.
Me: If you have a business that runs on razor thin margins and doesn't have 3 months of buffer resources, I don't think you can rightly call it a 'good' business.
You: [tu quoque logical fallacy about me owning a small business] [moving the goalposts logical fallacy from "razor thin margins" to "seasonal business"] [sad story about PA plant that apparently overextends themselves with huge, financially risky projects that they can't even pay for themselves under normal circumstances] [comment about weak small businesses employing millions, as if that was ever in doubt]
Oh, okay. Sure, bud.
(05-28-2020 08:51 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-27-2020 11:43 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote: [ -> ] (05-22-2020 02:56 PM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]I think part of the issue is that the people who can self distance and work from home or at least work and get a paycheck are the group that says lets all stay at home as it is the safest thing to do. People who own a small business or have not gotten a paycheck in two months look at this very differently. I personally know people who have small businesses that were extremely successful that will be good and gone soon if something does not change. One is a business that has been around for 30+ years and was very successful. It will most likely make it through because he has the resources to cover costs for a good while, but not for ever.
I don't believe any "extremely successful" or "30+ year....very successful" business is going under cause they couldn't open their doors for 3-4 months. Every financial advisor out there will tell you to carry 6+ months of expenses in an emergency fund and this is the case for businesses too, and especially feasible for those that are "extremely" or "very" successful. I'll admit I'm being nit picky but I think people are screaming that COVID is causing businesses to fail, but forgetting to mention these were likely bad businesses before COVID. COVID certainly isn't helping 99% of companies out there, but it seems to me that these people are blaming the woof for blowing over the house made of straw.
Honestly, this is more of a rant after all the facebook comments from people that act like they have doctorates in economics and screaming "OPEN SMALL BUSINESSES!" despite not being able to pass a basic business class, and less of a response to JMU98's actual post.
I noted that the particular business would most likely make it through because they have the resources, but it is a huge hit for them. He was able to get the PPP loan, but is actually paying his folks an extra 600 and a higher hourly wage (it is a restaurant) to cover the higher unemployment amount that they would receive. There are however many good businesses that run on razor thin margins where the company does not have the resources for this to last much longer especially considering that it's not like business goes totally back to normal on day one. The strongest businesses will survive and possibly thrive at some point due to less competition from other businesses that went out of business because of the shutdown. By the way most doctorates in economics couldn't run a small business to save their lives.
98
You are right on with your comments. Small businesses are companies up to 500 domestic employees. I've got current employees that if we laid them off they would receive double what they are making while working here. We had a 100k employee in NY ask to be laid off. This will all change in July when the Fed Government stops paying the 600/wk premium. I understand making people whole, but paying them more than they were working is ridiculous.
And there are a lot of solid small businesses that were not prepared for this. The PPP has been a life saver, but that is short term. A lot of small businesses were comfortably making ends meet prior to the pandemic, but I would guess the majority will still be operating at 75% at most of their prior revenues by the end of the year.
I'd guess at the end of the year Unemployment will be at last 12% even with a vaccine.
Once again - this is uncharted territory.
(05-28-2020 09:31 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]Have you ever run a small business?
Sorry to harp on this, but can you imagine if this was a generally accepted precondition for discourse on these boards?
me: I just don't think Lou Rowe was a good coach.
jmu98: Have you ever been a D1 college basketball head coach? No? Then you're not entitled to your opinion, good sir.
(05-28-2020 09:50 AM)bjk3047 Wrote: [ -> ]Me: If you have a business that runs on razor thin margins and doesn't have 3 months of buffer resources, I don't think you can rightly call it a 'good' business.
You: [tu quoque logical fallacy about me owning a small business] [moving the goalposts logical fallacy from "razor thin margins" to "seasonal business"] [sad story about PA plant that apparently overextends themselves with huge, financially risky projects that they can't even pay for themselves under normal circumstances] [comment about weak small businesses employing millions, as if that was ever in doubt]
Oh, okay. Sure, bud.
First of all believe your fairy land that is not the real world when it comes to all of this and how the real world works. Second, I was making the point that small businesses come in all shapes and sizes and that there are many good businesses that can't survive 3-4 months of not being open. If you don't believe it great, I really don't give a hoot.
(05-28-2020 10:20 AM)bjk3047 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2020 09:31 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]Have you ever run a small business?
Sorry to harp on this, but can you imagine if this was a generally accepted precondition for discourse on these boards?
me: I just don't think Lou Rowe was a good coach.
jmu98: Have you ever been a D1 college basketball head coach? No? Then you're not entitled to your opinion, good sir.
Coaching results are tangible and obvious to outside observers, The ins and outs of running a small business are not.
Let's just agree to disagree.
(05-28-2020 10:24 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]Coaching results are tangible and obvious to outside observers, The ins and outs of running a small business are not.
Let's just agree to disagree.
What?!? Are you going to tell me that wins are somehow a more tangible benchmark than a balance sheet? And that coaching somehow doesn't have more intangible results (student experience, impact on program/athletics on the whole, impact on the community, etc) than small businesses?
That's a ludicrous position.
Agree to disagree indeed, sir.
(05-28-2020 10:29 AM)bjk3047 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2020 10:24 AM)jmu98 Wrote: [ -> ]Coaching results are tangible and obvious to outside observers, The ins and outs of running a small business are not.
Let's just agree to disagree.
What?!? Are you going to tell me that wins are somehow a more tangible benchmark than a balance sheet? And that coaching somehow doesn't have more intangible results (student experience, impact on program/athletics on the whole, impact on the community, etc) than small businesses?
That's a ludicrous position.
Agree to disagree indeed, sir.
Your opinions on how easy it is to weather a storm of no income but continuing expenses is your opinion. When most small businesses are LLC's and all profits are attributed to the owner(s) who are required to pay taxes on said profits be they cash or not, any time spend with no income yet continuing expenses puts those businesses at risk.
The magic six month time frame of expenses in the bank would already be depleted by 1/3. Times a wastin' when the gov't decision makers in this environment are receiving a paycheck.