(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  "Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  "Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

Forever linked to the data on ratings -- AAC viewership is around 30-40% of the lowest contract-bowl conference, but none of the four behind us are 30% of the AAC's viewership.
For some reason a St John's fan started a thread talking about AAC attendance on the Realignment forum - I already posted there:
CUSA has 64% of the attendance of the AAC (2019)...and the AAC's attendance is 64% of the PAC12 and 61% of the attendance of the ACC.
Every off-field metric you look at will be similar - only one or two schools from the four conferences behind the AAC would be in the top half of the AAC; the AAC's cellar dweller is looking down at multiple schools from every one of those conferences.

Here are the facts on on-field results:
#6 or #5 5 years out of 7 in the CFP era
NY6 bid 5 years out of 7 in the CFP era
One or the other 6 years out of 7 in the CFP era.
CLOSER TO the contract-bowl-conferences ahead of us than to all four conferences behind us 3 years out of 7; a 4th year out of 7 closer to #5 than to three of four conferences behind us.

2020 AAC #6. Closer to #5 than all our 2015-2019 #6 finishes
2019 AAC #5!!! Ahead of the ACC at #6. Closer to #2 than to the #7 mwc. Closer to #1 SEC than to #8-#10
2018 AAC #7. Bummer. mwc at #6 was 2.48 avg ranking spots better...compared to AAC 14.17 better than the mwc in 2019 and 17.12 better than the mwc in 2017
2017 AAC #6. Closer to #5 than to #7-10. Closer to #1 than to #9-10.
2016 AAC #6. Closer to #5 than to #8-10. Gap from #6-7 58% of the gap from #5-6.
2015 AAC #6. Closer to #5 than to #7-10.
2014 AAC was #8. But from the #8 slot, closer to #6 than any G4 has been to the AAC at #6 since then.


Looks like Forever left out a link - here's a discussion from 6 weeks ago with graphs showing trendlines - not only are we, in fact, closer to the contract-bowl conferences than to the four conferences behind us, but the trend lines are in our favor as well. The post I link to has one graph but there are several more downthread:
https://csnbbs.com/thread-920605-post-17...id17402945

(06-11-2021 10:29 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 09:40 PM)everyone Wrote:  Nothing but respect Herd but UCF and the like have pwned us. Yes USM or Marshall could compete on the field with any of them when we are at our best but they've done all they needed off the field to put themselves in a better position. Give credit where it is due. They've played the cartels game and found the scraps from the table.

I didn't say a thing about UCF. I simply stated the "Biggest Accomplishment" any of the AAC schools have had. And the Heisman Trophy is the biggest. But again that was 32 years and 3 conferences ago when Houston regularly played Texas, Texas Tech and Texas AM. None of the AAC schools have a team National Championship in anything (And no UCF in 2017 doesn't count, just because they said so). Houston in the Phi Slamma Jamma days made it to 2 title games losing both in 1983 to NC State 54-52 and 1984 losing to Georgetown 84-75. Somehow the 1983 title game is remembered by everyone but the 1984 title game has to have everyone's memory jogged.

And you give Marshall or almost anyone in CUSA UCFs athletic budget and I can almost bet they would have more separation than UCF has had.

Houston has 16 national team golf championships... just saying

(06-14-2021 01:50 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 01:47 PM)monarx Wrote:  The Sun Belt didnt care about markets and brought in fanbases and success... and thats how they caught up to us.

The Sun Belt took their limited budgets and put all of their eggs in one basket--football.

Also true. Though Id feel better about it if we could get that second basketball bid.

Team sport national championships are much more impressive than individual golf, swimming, track and field championships.

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

Just caught this one re-reading...

P6 has never been a claim that we are the equal of the SEC or B1G.
P6 is part of the AAC overall strategic plan, with strategic goals in the 2026 timeframe of being on the right side of the next CFP restructure - either formal inclusion in the playoff structure or a NYx bowl contract (even a "tweener" contract with less money, etc would fulfill that).
Not about today, about 2026, so your arguments in the present tense or past tense are pointless.
The two lines of effort for the conference and member schools are to keep pace with the contract-bowl-conferences (e.g. do all the autonomy things like full cost of attendance) and separating from the four non-contract-bowl conferences. I'm almost sorry that hurts the feels over here.

See you in September

(06-15-2021 11:01 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

Just caught this one re-reading...

P6 has never been a claim that we are the equal of the SEC or B1G.
P6 is part of the AAC overall strategic plan, with strategic goals in the 2026 timeframe of being on the right side of the next CFP restructure - either formal inclusion in the playoff structure or a NYx bowl contract (even a "tweener" contract with less money, etc would fulfill that).
Not about today, about 2026, so your arguments in the present tense or past tense are pointless.
The two lines of effort for the conference and member schools are to keep pace with the contract-bowl-conferences (e.g. do all the autonomy things like full cost of attendance) and separating from the four non-contract-bowl conferences. I'm almost sorry that hurts the feels over here.

See you in September

It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:01 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

Just caught this one re-reading...

P6 has never been a claim that we are the equal of the SEC or B1G.
P6 is part of the AAC overall strategic plan, with strategic goals in the 2026 timeframe of being on the right side of the next CFP restructure - either formal inclusion in the playoff structure or a NYx bowl contract (even a "tweener" contract with less money, etc would fulfill that).
Not about today, about 2026, so your arguments in the present tense or past tense are pointless.
The two lines of effort for the conference and member schools are to keep pace with the contract-bowl-conferences (e.g. do all the autonomy things like full cost of attendance) and separating from the four non-contract-bowl conferences. I'm almost sorry that hurts the feels over here.

See you in September

It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:01 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

Just caught this one re-reading...

P6 has never been a claim that we are the equal of the SEC or B1G.
P6 is part of the AAC overall strategic plan, with strategic goals in the 2026 timeframe of being on the right side of the next CFP restructure - either formal inclusion in the playoff structure or a NYx bowl contract (even a "tweener" contract with less money, etc would fulfill that).
Not about today, about 2026, so your arguments in the present tense or past tense are pointless.
The two lines of effort for the conference and member schools are to keep pace with the contract-bowl-conferences (e.g. do all the autonomy things like full cost of attendance) and separating from the four non-contract-bowl conferences. I'm almost sorry that hurts the feels over here.

See you in September

It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

(06-14-2021 07:16 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 10:39 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:11 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:40 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 03:25 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  Thanks for the praise. Despite how some others would try to play that down 2020 was a fantastic year for UL and the SBC, it of course was. But what are you saying is not sustainable? Many, including most of the national sports press/pundits, so not just UL fans, are saying 2021 will be even better.

It's not just you guys. What G5 programs have a chance at sustainable success? A select few maybe? There are many factors. One big one is leadership and continuing to make good coaching hires. This is a big reason USM fell off. When Napier is gone we will see. UCF and the like continue to make good hires and have the money to attract the Malzhans of the world. Although independent, Liberty being able to keep Freeze is huge for their sustained success. Cincy keeping their coach is a major factor.

Well, that is the question, for sure. And one I tried to answer in my earlier post, but I can answer it again more directly. I truly believe, and know that our admin’s goal is to continue our growth. A few things to keep in mind about UL: our previous admin, who was there for some 40 years, despised athletics and did his best to destroy them during his entire tenure. Those days are long gone. Once Napier is gone you can bet your bottom dollar his replacement will keep things going. Our current admin has stated that repeatedly.

Also the LFT area at 650K is the 3rd largest in state. The wider Acadiana region is ~1.4 million. It also a very prosperous region. So we have the necessary base. With all the baggage of Hud one thing he showed is how much potential we have if that based is fired up.

I mean if Mississippi can have 2 P6 schools, there is really no reason why Louisiana cannot.

Louisiana can, the problem for you is that it wouldn't be ULL.

https://www.hannapub.com/ouachitacitizen...602d5.html

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-.../96642540/

https://t.co/l5zsLmqRXs?amp=1

Wow….can’t believe you think there is any credibility to idiot’s ramblings on this subject. Who is he, your former AD’s twin, lol?!!!

Did you read the tigerdroppings comments? They are golden! As for the writer of the editorial, well he is an asshat and an LSU alum. But I live to rile you ULL fanboys up.

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:01 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

Just caught this one re-reading...

P6 has never been a claim that we are the equal of the SEC or B1G.
P6 is part of the AAC overall strategic plan, with strategic goals in the 2026 timeframe of being on the right side of the next CFP restructure - either formal inclusion in the playoff structure or a NYx bowl contract (even a "tweener" contract with less money, etc would fulfill that).
Not about today, about 2026, so your arguments in the present tense or past tense are pointless.
The two lines of effort for the conference and member schools are to keep pace with the contract-bowl-conferences (e.g. do all the autonomy things like full cost of attendance) and separating from the four non-contract-bowl conferences. I'm almost sorry that hurts the feels over here.

See you in September

It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

If the G5 that isn't in the AAC would stop playing them I think you would see a different attitude.

I looked at the 2019 attendance figures and its disconcerting how they break down. The top 7 in attendance average 22,370 with USM & UAB both over 24K, The bottom 7 however averaged only 15,510 with Charlotte and FIU under 14k and 13K each. I understand that Charlottes stadium only holds 15,314 but that's a relatively low bar to meet. We should be doing much better as a conference.

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:01 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Just caught this one re-reading...

P6 has never been a claim that we are the equal of the SEC or B1G.
P6 is part of the AAC overall strategic plan, with strategic goals in the 2026 timeframe of being on the right side of the next CFP restructure - either formal inclusion in the playoff structure or a NYx bowl contract (even a "tweener" contract with less money, etc would fulfill that).
Not about today, about 2026, so your arguments in the present tense or past tense are pointless.
The two lines of effort for the conference and member schools are to keep pace with the contract-bowl-conferences (e.g. do all the autonomy things like full cost of attendance) and separating from the four non-contract-bowl conferences. I'm almost sorry that hurts the feels over here.

See you in September

It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

10,000 difference between CUSA and AAC
20,000 difference between AAC and ACC

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

(06-15-2021 01:06 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I looked at the 2019 attendance figures and its disconcerting how they break down. The top 7 in attendance average 22,370 with USM & UAB both over 24K, The bottom 7 however averaged only 15,510 with Charlotte and FIU under 14k and 13K each. I understand that Charlottes stadium only holds 15,314 but that's a relatively low bar to meet. We should be doing much better as a conference.

You will find nobody that agrees with you more than CLT fans. We have brought in a dynamic young coach and are starting to see better recruits. We believe we will be announcing a stadium expansion sometime this year. We are making the investments to get there, but it is an uphill climb.

(06-15-2021 01:16 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:06 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I looked at the 2019 attendance figures and its disconcerting how they break down. The top 7 in attendance average 22,370 with USM & UAB both over 24K, The bottom 7 however averaged only 15,510 with Charlotte and FIU under 14k and 13K each. I understand that Charlottes stadium only holds 15,314 but that's a relatively low bar to meet. We should be doing much better as a conference.

You will find nobody that agrees with you more than CLT fans. We have brought in a dynamic young coach and are starting to see better recruits. We believe we will be announcing a stadium expansion sometime this year. We are making the investments to get there, but it is an uphill climb.

Tech fans know more than anybody about uphill climbs. I earnestly hope you guys are able to draw more and more fans to your games. I understand that your OOC scheduling will help tremendously.

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

You can't determine how much a towns supports a program by their attendance to population. They just aren't comparable. For example:

Clemson, SC pop- 16,436 ------ Clemson Football Att- 80,868 = 492% of pop
Stark-vegas, MS pop- 25,387-----Miss State Att- 56,182= 221% of pop
Ruston, LA pop- 21,976----La Tech Att- 20,439= 93% of pop

If Charlotte was 221% of population their average attendance would be 1,894,909 a game.

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

10,000 difference between CUSA and AAC
20,000 difference between AAC and ACC

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

Is this what a Marshall education produces?

It's sad. Do you really think that anyone is fooled by you switching to a raw number comparison instead of a ratio? Is this beginning statistics?

Hmmm, you want to use metro areas or basically random location as opposed to the actual size of the university (and therefore its alumni base and actual support) I wonder why Marshall would want to do that?

Not only has your goal post moving failed, your gotcha facts, and cherry picked stats are failing you, and backing up every point made about the separation of the AAC from the other non-A5 conferences and our middle status. Which has been shown in the AAC performances both competitively with the A5 and the dominance of the other conferences, in multiple sports, since its inception.

SLH I was looking for that missed link thread and just couldn't find it. As always your work and references are on point. I'll leave the posting of facts about conference comparisons in your more than qualified hands. I feel the snarkiness coming on with this nonsense and terrible argument being presented in the face of facts.