(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:18 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's exactly what you are trying to be or else you wouldn't say P6. They are P5, if you were part of their group it would be a P6. My question is why aren't we all just FBS? The AAC is a classic example of the Napoleon Complex

If the P5 found value in the AAC then you'd already be part of their party, but you don't offer them anything of value. So here you sit, the tallest midget with the rest of the G5ers.

5 Year Attendance Average per Conference...
MAC - 15697
SB - 17583
CUSA 19593
MW - 23880
AAC - 29553
Indy - 35178
--------------------------
ACC - 48432
P12 - 48753
B12 - 57135
B10 - 65369
SEC - 75704

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/...m-analysis

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

10,000 difference between CUSA and AAC
20,000 difference between AAC and ACC

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

Ummm, they have UConn in because it's a five year average and UConn was part of the AAC.

They left out Tulsa and put in Florida International. Which by the way has worse attendance than Tulsa. So the actual number for the AAC is higher and the number for CUSA is lower.

Can we all just agree you aren't very good at this?

(06-15-2021 01:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

10,000 difference between CUSA and AAC
20,000 difference between AAC and ACC

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

Is this what a Marshall education produces?

It's sad. Do you really think that anyone is fooled by you switching to a raw number comparison instead of a ratio? Is this beginning statistics?

Hmmm, you want to use metro areas or basically random location as opposed to the actual size of the university (and therefore its alumni base and actual support) I wonder why Marshall would want to do that?

Not only has your goal post moving failed, your gotcha facts, and cherry picked stats are failing you, and backing up every point made about the separation of the AAC from the other non-A5 conferences and our middle status. Which has been shown in the AAC performances both competitively with the A5 and the dominance of the other conferences, in multiple sports, since its inception.

SLH I was looking for that missed link thread and just couldn't find it. As always your work and references are on point. I'll leave the posting of facts about conference comparisons in your more than qualified hands. I feel the snarkiness coming on with this nonsense and terrible argument being presented in the face of facts.

Here's a fact... The AAC is a G5!!!!!

Fail on your part, how stupid do you have to be to not realize this?

(06-15-2021 01:47 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

10,000 difference between CUSA and AAC
20,000 difference between AAC and ACC

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

Ummm, they have UConn in because it's a five year average and UConn was part of the AAC.

They left out Tulsa and put in Florida International. Which by the way has worse attendance than Tulsa. So the actual number for the AAC is higher and the number for CUSA is lower.

Can we all just agree you aren't very good at this?

You are a G5!!!

Deal with it

(06-15-2021 02:04 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

10,000 difference between CUSA and AAC
20,000 difference between AAC and ACC

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

Is this what a Marshall education produces?

It's sad. Do you really think that anyone is fooled by you switching to a raw number comparison instead of a ratio? Is this beginning statistics?

Hmmm, you want to use metro areas or basically random location as opposed to the actual size of the university (and therefore its alumni base and actual support) I wonder why Marshall would want to do that?

Not only has your goal post moving failed, your gotcha facts, and cherry picked stats are failing you, and backing up every point made about the separation of the AAC from the other non-A5 conferences and our middle status. Which has been shown in the AAC performances both competitively with the A5 and the dominance of the other conferences, in multiple sports, since its inception.

SLH I was looking for that missed link thread and just couldn't find it. As always your work and references are on point. I'll leave the posting of facts about conference comparisons in your more than qualified hands. I feel the snarkiness coming on with this nonsense and terrible argument being presented in the face of facts.

The AAC is a G5!!!!! fail on your part, how stupid do you have to be to not realize this?

You do understand he is trolling right?

(06-15-2021 01:28 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

You can't determine how much a towns supports a program by their attendance to population. They just aren't comparable. For example:

Clemson, SC pop- 16,436 ------ Clemson Football Att- 80,868 = 492% of pop
Stark-vegas, MS pop- 25,387-----Miss State Att- 56,182= 221% of pop
Ruston, LA pop- 21,976----La Tech Att- 20,439= 93% of pop

If Charlotte was 221% of population their average attendance would be 1,894,909 a game.

Well, we are working on an expansion plan.

(06-15-2021 01:28 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

You can't determine how much a towns supports a program by their attendance to population. They just aren't comparable. For example:

Clemson, SC pop- 16,436 ------ Clemson Football Att- 80,868 = 492% of pop
Stark-vegas, MS pop- 25,387-----Miss State Att- 56,182= 221% of pop
Ruston, LA pop- 21,976----La Tech Att- 20,439= 93% of pop

If Charlotte was 221% of population their average attendance would be 1,894,909 a game.

I meant comparing AAC to CUSA attendance / population...

Southern Miss
5 year average - 25002
Population - 45,989

Memphis
5 year average - 37228
Population - 651,932

This is to illustrate that large cities do not support their local G5 schools.

If the likes of Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston were P5 material then they should have no problem averaging 50k people with the gigantic population that they can pull from.

BYU is closest averaging 57k

(06-15-2021 12:43 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

We're not that great, so why do you all want to join the AAC?

(06-15-2021 02:57 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:43 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

We're not that great, so why do you all want to join the AAC?

Money talks

See you in Sept.--- how many times are you going to type that phrase?

(06-15-2021 02:55 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:28 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 11:35 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  Attendance and Revenue you are much closer to G5 than P5. What part of that do you not understand?

1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

You can't determine how much a towns supports a program by their attendance to population. They just aren't comparable. For example:

Clemson, SC pop- 16,436 ------ Clemson Football Att- 80,868 = 492% of pop
Stark-vegas, MS pop- 25,387-----Miss State Att- 56,182= 221% of pop
Ruston, LA pop- 21,976----La Tech Att- 20,439= 93% of pop

If Charlotte was 221% of population their average attendance would be 1,894,909 a game.

I meant comparing AAC to CUSA attendance / population...

Southern Miss
5 year average - 25002
Population - 45,989

Memphis
5 year average - 37228
Population - 651,932

This is to illustrate that large cities do not support their local G5 schools.

If the likes of Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston were P5 material then they should have no problem averaging 50k people with the gigantic population that they can pull from.

BYU is closest averaging 52k

I just don't think you are considering enough information here. In Hattiesburg or Huntington, if a family wants to go out to an event on a fall Saturday and spend their entertainment dollars, your football game may be their only option. In Charlotte they may decide between three local college football games. If you want to limit it to just FBS games in a 2 hours radius then there are 8 choices, including 4 ACC and an SEC team.

Maybe you prefer to go to a NASCAR race. Fifteen minutes from our stadium. Like baseball? We have three minor league teams within 30 minutes, including a Triple-A team uptown.

Maybe you got to see football last weekend, so this week your wife wants to go see the play Wicked. We have the Broadway touring companies throughout the year, and they compete for those same entertainment dollars. The Symphony or Opera, we have those too.

Maybe instead of football it is basketball, baseball or soccer season. Then you may be competing with the NBA, a PGA tour event, or MLS soccer. Or, maybe you are more the outdoor adventure type and would prefer to spend your day at the US National Whitewater Center, an Olympic training venue for whitewater canoeing and kayaking, but they also do rafting, rock climbing, mountain biking, concerts, etc.

My point is the competition for your entertainment dollars in some of our cities is almost endless. In others, you may be the only game in town.

(06-15-2021 12:43 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

Your board starts a ****-measuring thread about the AAC.
I came in with facts and data at post #102, because Foreverandever cited me in post #100.
I don't need any validation from any of you.
However, I do hate it when people are wrong on the internet. (That's without getting into greenbison's mixing up of primary media rights dollars and total disbursement, or your near-illiterate misuse of "could care less.") It's a heavy cross to bear.

Who's triggered? The collective with 99 posts about a marketing campaign, or the calm bringers of facts and data?

(06-15-2021 03:37 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:43 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 09:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?

You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

Your board starts a ****-measuring thread about the AAC.
I came in with facts and data at post #102, because Foreverandever cited me in post #100.
I don't need any validation from any of you.
However, I do hate it when people are wrong on the internet. (That's without getting into greenbison's mixing up of primary media rights dollars and total disbursement, or your near-illiterate misuse of "could care less.") It's a heavy cross to bear.

Who's triggered? The collective with 99 posts about a marketing campaign, or the calm bringers of facts and data?

Facts and Data = the AAC is a G5 and always will be. You don't offer the P5 anything of value.

(06-15-2021 03:35 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 02:55 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:28 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  1. The very numbers you provided show that CUSA is 66% of the AAC and the AAC is 61% of the ACC and the PAC
2. In the "what part do you not understand" category, P6 is a strategy of progress to aspirational goals, not a snapshot today.

see you in September

Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

You can't determine how much a towns supports a program by their attendance to population. They just aren't comparable. For example:

Clemson, SC pop- 16,436 ------ Clemson Football Att- 80,868 = 492% of pop
Stark-vegas, MS pop- 25,387-----Miss State Att- 56,182= 221% of pop
Ruston, LA pop- 21,976----La Tech Att- 20,439= 93% of pop

If Charlotte was 221% of population their average attendance would be 1,894,909 a game.

I meant comparing AAC to CUSA attendance / population...

Southern Miss
5 year average - 25002
Population - 45,989

Memphis
5 year average - 37228
Population - 651,932

This is to illustrate that large cities do not support their local G5 schools.

If the likes of Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston were P5 material then they should have no problem averaging 50k people with the gigantic population that they can pull from.

BYU is closest averaging 52k

I just don't think you are considering enough information here. In Hattiesburg or Huntington, if a family wants to go out to an event on a fall Saturday and spend their entertainment dollars, your football game may be their only option. In Charlotte they may decide between three local college football games. If you want to limit it to just FBS games in a 2 hours radius then there are 8 choices, including 4 ACC and an SEC team.

Maybe you prefer to go to a NASCAR race. Fifteen minutes from our stadium. Like baseball? We have three minor league teams within 30 minutes, including a Triple-A team uptown.

Maybe you got to see football last weekend, so this week your wife wants to go see the play Wicked. We have the Broadway touring companies throughout the year, and they compete for those same entertainment dollars. The Symphony or Opera, we have those too.

Maybe instead of football it is basketball, baseball or soccer season. Then you may be competing with the NBA, a PGA tour event, or MLS soccer. Or, maybe you are more the outdoor adventure type and would prefer to spend your day at the US National Whitewater Center, an Olympic training venue for whitewater canoeing and kayaking, but they also do rafting, rock climbing, mountain biking, concerts, etc.

My point is the competition for your entertainment dollars in some of our cities is almost endless. In others, you may be the only game in town.

The P5 schools don't have that problem, it's only an issue with G5 schools.

If I were a Tulane or Tulsa fan, I'd want to boast about "AAC averages", too.

But as an apple-to-apple individual program vs individual program...

Marshall out-averages you in attendance...
... has a better atmosphere...
... is a better TV draw...
... has more bowl wins than you...
... currently has a national championship caliber athletic team...
... has a more recent NCAA basketball tournament win...
... has better current basketball star power...

Hindsight is 20/20 - AAC messed up long term by taking Tulsa than centrally located Marshall. But go ahead and brag while you stand on the shoulders of your conference peers.


Oh, and we still have scoreboard rights on you...

(06-15-2021 03:54 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 03:35 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 02:55 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:28 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 01:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  Click on the article. Under the AAC list they've accidentally added a 12th team to your conference, so your total average is actually less than what is posted. Also, should we compare attendance versus home town population? Just to illustrate how much support some teams have in their own towns.

You can't determine how much a towns supports a program by their attendance to population. They just aren't comparable. For example:

Clemson, SC pop- 16,436 ------ Clemson Football Att- 80,868 = 492% of pop
Stark-vegas, MS pop- 25,387-----Miss State Att- 56,182= 221% of pop
Ruston, LA pop- 21,976----La Tech Att- 20,439= 93% of pop

If Charlotte was 221% of population their average attendance would be 1,894,909 a game.

I meant comparing AAC to CUSA attendance / population...

Southern Miss
5 year average - 25002
Population - 45,989

Memphis
5 year average - 37228
Population - 651,932

This is to illustrate that large cities do not support their local G5 schools.

If the likes of Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston were P5 material then they should have no problem averaging 50k people with the gigantic population that they can pull from.

BYU is closest averaging 52k

I just don't think you are considering enough information here. In Hattiesburg or Huntington, if a family wants to go out to an event on a fall Saturday and spend their entertainment dollars, your football game may be their only option. In Charlotte they may decide between three local college football games. If you want to limit it to just FBS games in a 2 hours radius then there are 8 choices, including 4 ACC and an SEC team.

Maybe you prefer to go to a NASCAR race. Fifteen minutes from our stadium. Like baseball? We have three minor league teams within 30 minutes, including a Triple-A team uptown.

Maybe you got to see football last weekend, so this week your wife wants to go see the play Wicked. We have the Broadway touring companies throughout the year, and they compete for those same entertainment dollars. The Symphony or Opera, we have those too.

Maybe instead of football it is basketball, baseball or soccer season. Then you may be competing with the NBA, a PGA tour event, or MLS soccer. Or, maybe you are more the outdoor adventure type and would prefer to spend your day at the US National Whitewater Center, an Olympic training venue for whitewater canoeing and kayaking, but they also do rafting, rock climbing, mountain biking, concerts, etc.

My point is the competition for your entertainment dollars in some of our cities is almost endless. In others, you may be the only game in town.

The P5 schools don't have that problem, it's only an issue with G5 schools.

Yes. None of us are P5 schools.

(06-15-2021 03:59 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  If I were a Tulane or Tulsa fan, I'd want to boast about "AAC averages", too.

But as an apple-to-apple individual program vs individual program...

Marshall out-averages you in attendance...
... has a better atmosphere...
... is a better TV draw...
... has more bowl wins than you...
... currently has a national championship caliber athletic team...
... has a more recent NCAA basketball tournament win...
... has better current basketball star power...

Hindsight is 20/20 - AAC messed up long term by taking Tulsa than centrally located Marshall. But go ahead and brag while you stand on the shoulders of your conference peers.


Oh, and we still have scoreboard rights on you...

I mean really? The series is us 4-1, we still have more appearences in championship games and championships than you and were in the league half the time. Hell you barely made one before we dipped out and you lost that.

Oh and I am still looking for a NY6 game in your history.

Jeez you're drawing more people in your hillbilly town than the smallest school in FBS during probably the best run of your history

I'm not sure you're qualified to talk about our atmosphere when your state rates it by couches set on fire

You should check those numbers in viewership that come with links, you'll find you are badly mistaken

We have the win in the only bowls that anyone counts anymore, you've never made an appearance

Lol Tulsa has been winning in lots of sports for a long time. But hey way to win a weird season men's soccer championship, slow clap for you

Aww shucks, if only we had just one win to talk about

Lol you producing NBA players now? Or just hoping to win your tournament in March and be the only representative of your conference?

When you have as many conference championships in CUSA as we do you can talk about how it was a mistake, but in double the time you are still behind.

clt says Charlotte could draw 1.8M to our games and some schools would complain that we don’t have enough FB history

Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

Keep in mind, Marshall still holds a 3-2 edge over the current AAC configuration.

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

Slh will likely be in and link you to his work already done that clearly shows the difference in viewership, it comes sourced and goes back to 2014 I believe, he updates it every season. He also has the performance difference and has it sourced, of course we could just look at the AAC's overall record vs the non-A5 or the year by year one.Your assertions don't hold up when fact checked.

You all never won a football championship while in a conference with us, we had two. 10 bowl games is more than 9, but we already established Marshall fans are bad at this.

This is kind of sad, like I assume you all are trying but the sauce is weak, were talking 0% alcohol beer bad here