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(06-12-2021 07:57 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:24 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Marshall basketball also beat Wichita State in the NCAA tournament.

Look, we all agree the AAC is a better conference, but to say they are far and away better than the entirety of the G5 is not true.

Individual teams have success, not entire conferences. And we are all prone to highs and lows. It's all about leveraging those good teams. You hope when it all clicks, you have the golden schedule to back it up.

Please see post above.

We can also compare any sport you like, although basketball is probably not the one to choose. Maybe baseball? Or soccer? Of course over time that recent success isn't enough in those sports to overcome the performance of the entire era since the realignments. Not in conference or individual program strength. The learfield cup standings sho.this for individual schools and the conference overall.

Marshall has done just fine in football, basketball, and yes soccer. But we know better days are ahead in football.

Just remember, we recently fired our football coach for his collapse in 2020, a year we peaked in the top 15.

CUSA needs to step up, and honestly so does Marshall. But your wenis measuring attempt is exactly why we all laugh at the AAC.

BTW, there is no use comparing AAC soccer to CUSA soccer.
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(06-12-2021 07:40 PM)everyone Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 03:25 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 10:51 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 10:36 AM)everyone Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 10:04 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I try not to throw stones at other conferences that have been to more NY6 Bowls then my own. If they make it good for them. What separates a lot of programs is luck, and association with others. Tech has lacked both. Wife took son to football camp in Starkville last weekend. The noted the difference between Tech and Mississippi State was the 50+ million in SEC money every year and the home games with half the SEC West every year. Mississippi State is better than Tech because they were lucky enough to have been associated with the Alabamas, LSUs, and Tennessees of the world. It is what it is and unless we luck up like Wester Michigan did last week, that's not going to change for any of us.

I don't think any of this is luck. Association does matter to an extent but look at Liberty or BYU. Just a big windfall of money isn't enough. You need the right leadership in place and the right timing. USM needs a windfall for a new bball arena, IPF and several sustained years of success to even have someone from another conference/playoff committee raise an eyebrow. Tech, Marshall, USM or UAB needs to breakthrough but realistically we will just keep beating up on each other at the same level of competition and getting the same level of talent/coaching. What App, ULALA and Coastal have done lately is great but not sustainable. Liberty has all the pieces in place to have a breakthrough.
You are right to a degree. I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The biggest issue we face is the financial disparity. Tech and USM can't raise the sufficient endowment needed to compete when we are constantly fundraising just to keep the lights on. Our association with each other is a strong point but it has not been marketed nearly as well as others. CUSA has done a terrible job of flexing its brand. When folks look at us they see a ramshackle group of teams floating from network to network for games and no real identity. Sunbelt did a fantastic job of really showing out while others were looking and while it isn't sustainableit can lead to other things. Liberty and BYU have deep coffers because of their religious affiliations and because Liberty has really horned in on the online education concept. Many of us have a century long history of great football but our piss poor management and bad luck as not allowed us to capitalize on it at the right time.
Thanks for the praise. Despite how some others would try to play that down 2020 was a fantastic year for UL and the SBC, it of course was. But what are you saying is not sustainable? Many, including most of the national sports press/pundits, so not just UL fans, are saying 2021 will be even better.

It's not just you guys. What G5 programs have a chance at sustainable success? A select few maybe? There are many factors. One big one is leadership and continuing to make good coaching hires. This is a big reason USM fell off. When Napier is gone we will see. UCF and the like continue to make good hires and have the money to attract the Malzhans of the world. Although independent, Liberty being able to keep Freeze is huge for their sustained success. Cincy keeping their coach is a major factor.
Well, that is the question, for sure. And one I tried to answer in my earlier post, but I can answer it again more directly. I truly believe, and know that our admin’s goal is to continue our growth. A few things to keep in mind about UL: our previous admin, who was there for some 40 years, despised athletics and did his best to destroy them during his entire tenure. Those days are long gone. Once Napier is gone you can bet your bottom dollar his replacement will keep things going. Our current admin has stated that repeatedly.

Also the LFT area at 650K is the 3rd largest in state. The wider Acadiana region is ~1.4 million. It also a very prosperous region. So we have the necessary base. With all the baggage of Hud one thing he showed is how much potential we have if that based is fired up.

I mean if Mississippi can have 2 P6 schools, there is really no reason why Louisiana cannot.
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RE: P6
(06-12-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 04:43 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 02:36 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 12:07 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Marshall has been ranked in the AP and Coach’s Poll a total of 15 weeks since 2014. Not great but definitely respectable. That is the most of any CUSA/MAC/Sun Belt team. Here’s how it would stack up with the AAC teams. The AAC stats are from a post on the AAC board so not sure how accurate they are but seem about right.

UCF- 47 weeks
Cincy- 33 weeks
Memphis- 26 weeks
USF- 21 weeks

Navy- 17 weeks
MARSHALL- 15 weeks
SMU- 14 weeks

Temple- 8 weeks
Tulsa- 6 weeks

ECU- 0
Tulane- 0
Houston wasn’t listed either so that would be 0, but I felt like that have been ranked in Top 25, just not sure how many weeks.

Not sure if you are counting 2014 but ECU spent 5 or 6 weeks in both the AP & coaches poll. Hopefully we are on the way back up this year.


I was counting 2014 because that’s when the last round of re-alignment was completed (ECU joining AAC and WKU joining CUSA).

I didn’t figure that AAC list was completely accurate. I just got it from a post on your board.

I hope ECU gets back as well. I love the friendly and respectable rivalry we developed with you all, and you have imo, the best G5 fan base. Hope you can make it to Huntington for the game this year.

That post has been corrected. Here are the totals since 2014:

Tulane 0 (several weeks receiving votes)

ECU 6
Tulsa 6 ○
Temple 8 ○

SMU 14
Navy 17 ○

Houston 20 ○*
USF 21
Memphis 26 ○*

Cincinnati 33 ○*

UCF 47 ○*

○ Conference Championship Game Appearence
* NY6 Representative

Every team but one has been ranked multiple weeks, four different NY6 teams, seven of the eleven have made a championship game.

Please share the corresponding numbers for all of Conference USA.



I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.
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(06-10-2021 10:24 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  The P5 contractually exists because the three biggest bowls in the land had multi-million dollar deals with those conferences.

Rose has Big Ten and PAC.
Sugar has SEC and Big 12
Orange has ACC and highest rated from Norte Dame/SEC 2nd/Big12 2nd.

Until the Orange, Peach, Fiesta, or Cotton Bowl decide they want to ink a deal to lock the AAC champ into their bowl and thus guarantee them a NY6 slot, they won't be a Power football conference.
I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Irrelevant. Because under the new system, all of those NY6 bowls that you mentioned will be either a quarterfinal or semi-final in the new CFP playoffs.
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(06-13-2021 02:28 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 10:24 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  The P5 contractually exists because the three biggest bowls in the land had multi-million dollar deals with those conferences.

Rose has Big Ten and PAC.
Sugar has SEC and Big 12
Orange has ACC and highest rated from Norte Dame/SEC 2nd/Big12 2nd.

Until the Orange, Peach, Fiesta, or Cotton Bowl decide they want to ink a deal to lock the AAC champ into their bowl and thus guarantee them a NY6 slot, they won't be a Power football conference.
I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Irrelevant. Because under the new system, all of those NY6 bowls that you mentioned will be either a quarterfinal or semi-final in the new CFP playoffs.

This is true, there will be no more contract NY6 Bowls. In theory they could have 4 Bowls outside of the playoff for the 8 Top20 teams that missed out. But there would not be the huge payouts and conference tie ins. Noone is paying that sum for A5 #3-4 team to face A5 same, BYU, AAC #2,or MWC #2.
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(06-12-2021 09:22 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 04:43 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 02:36 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 12:07 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Marshall has been ranked in the AP and Coach’s Poll a total of 15 weeks since 2014. Not great but definitely respectable. That is the most of any CUSA/MAC/Sun Belt team. Here’s how it would stack up with the AAC teams. The AAC stats are from a post on the AAC board so not sure how accurate they are but seem about right.

UCF- 47 weeks
Cincy- 33 weeks
Memphis- 26 weeks
USF- 21 weeks

Navy- 17 weeks
MARSHALL- 15 weeks
SMU- 14 weeks

Temple- 8 weeks
Tulsa- 6 weeks

ECU- 0
Tulane- 0
Houston wasn’t listed either so that would be 0, but I felt like that have been ranked in Top 25, just not sure how many weeks.

Not sure if you are counting 2014 but ECU spent 5 or 6 weeks in both the AP & coaches poll. Hopefully we are on the way back up this year.


I was counting 2014 because that’s when the last round of re-alignment was completed (ECU joining AAC and WKU joining CUSA).

I didn’t figure that AAC list was completely accurate. I just got it from a post on your board.

I hope ECU gets back as well. I love the friendly and respectable rivalry we developed with you all, and you have imo, the best G5 fan base. Hope you can make it to Huntington for the game this year.

That post has been corrected. Here are the totals since 2014:

Tulane 0 (several weeks receiving votes)

ECU 6
Tulsa 6 ○
Temple 8 ○

SMU 14
Navy 17 ○

Houston 20 ○*
USF 21
Memphis 26 ○*

Cincinnati 33 ○*

UCF 47 ○*

○ Conference Championship Game Appearence
* NY6 Representative

Every team but one has been ranked multiple weeks, four different NY6 teams, seven of the eleven have made a championship game.

Please share the corresponding numbers for all of Conference USA.



I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.

The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.
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UAB, Marshall, WKU and La Tech should request a cut above the AAC. We do have winning records in football against the AAC after all.
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(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 09:22 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 04:43 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 02:36 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Not sure if you are counting 2014 but ECU spent 5 or 6 weeks in both the AP & coaches poll. Hopefully we are on the way back up this year.


I was counting 2014 because that’s when the last round of re-alignment was completed (ECU joining AAC and WKU joining CUSA).

I didn’t figure that AAC list was completely accurate. I just got it from a post on your board.

I hope ECU gets back as well. I love the friendly and respectable rivalry we developed with you all, and you have imo, the best G5 fan base. Hope you can make it to Huntington for the game this year.

That post has been corrected. Here are the totals since 2014:

Tulane 0 (several weeks receiving votes)

ECU 6
Tulsa 6 ○
Temple 8 ○

SMU 14
Navy 17 ○

Houston 20 ○*
USF 21
Memphis 26 ○*

Cincinnati 33 ○*

UCF 47 ○*

○ Conference Championship Game Appearence
* NY6 Representative

Every team but one has been ranked multiple weeks, four different NY6 teams, seven of the eleven have made a championship game.

Please share the corresponding numbers for all of Conference USA.



I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.

The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.


Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.
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(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 09:22 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 04:43 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I was counting 2014 because that’s when the last round of re-alignment was completed (ECU joining AAC and WKU joining CUSA).

I didn’t figure that AAC list was completely accurate. I just got it from a post on your board.

I hope ECU gets back as well. I love the friendly and respectable rivalry we developed with you all, and you have imo, the best G5 fan base. Hope you can make it to Huntington for the game this year.

That post has been corrected. Here are the totals since 2014:

Tulane 0 (several weeks receiving votes)

ECU 6
Tulsa 6 ○
Temple 8 ○

SMU 14
Navy 17 ○

Houston 20 ○*
USF 21
Memphis 26 ○*

Cincinnati 33 ○*

UCF 47 ○*

○ Conference Championship Game Appearence
* NY6 Representative

Every team but one has been ranked multiple weeks, four different NY6 teams, seven of the eleven have made a championship game.

Please share the corresponding numbers for all of Conference USA.



I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.

The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.


Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference
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(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 09:22 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  That post has been corrected. Here are the totals since 2014:

Tulane 0 (several weeks receiving votes)

ECU 6
Tulsa 6 ○
Temple 8 ○

SMU 14
Navy 17 ○

Houston 20 ○*
USF 21
Memphis 26 ○*

Cincinnati 33 ○*

UCF 47 ○*

○ Conference Championship Game Appearence
* NY6 Representative

Every team but one has been ranked multiple weeks, four different NY6 teams, seven of the eleven have made a championship game.

Please share the corresponding numbers for all of Conference USA.



I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.

The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.


Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
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(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 09:22 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.

The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.


Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

while CUSA is 'for below' the AAC, friend...but enjoy sloppy thirds on the conference we helped found.
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(06-12-2021 08:11 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:40 PM)everyone Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 03:25 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 10:51 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 10:36 AM)everyone Wrote:  I don't think any of this is luck. Association does matter to an extent but look at Liberty or BYU. Just a big windfall of money isn't enough. You need the right leadership in place and the right timing. USM needs a windfall for a new bball arena, IPF and several sustained years of success to even have someone from another conference/playoff committee raise an eyebrow. Tech, Marshall, USM or UAB needs to breakthrough but realistically we will just keep beating up on each other at the same level of competition and getting the same level of talent/coaching. What App, ULALA and Coastal have done lately is great but not sustainable. Liberty has all the pieces in place to have a breakthrough.
You are right to a degree. I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The biggest issue we face is the financial disparity. Tech and USM can't raise the sufficient endowment needed to compete when we are constantly fundraising just to keep the lights on. Our association with each other is a strong point but it has not been marketed nearly as well as others. CUSA has done a terrible job of flexing its brand. When folks look at us they see a ramshackle group of teams floating from network to network for games and no real identity. Sunbelt did a fantastic job of really showing out while others were looking and while it isn't sustainableit can lead to other things. Liberty and BYU have deep coffers because of their religious affiliations and because Liberty has really horned in on the online education concept. Many of us have a century long history of great football but our piss poor management and bad luck as not allowed us to capitalize on it at the right time.
Thanks for the praise. Despite how some others would try to play that down 2020 was a fantastic year for UL and the SBC, it of course was. But what are you saying is not sustainable? Many, including most of the national sports press/pundits, so not just UL fans, are saying 2021 will be even better.

It's not just you guys. What G5 programs have a chance at sustainable success? A select few maybe? There are many factors. One big one is leadership and continuing to make good coaching hires. This is a big reason USM fell off. When Napier is gone we will see. UCF and the like continue to make good hires and have the money to attract the Malzhans of the world. Although independent, Liberty being able to keep Freeze is huge for their sustained success. Cincy keeping their coach is a major factor.
Well, that is the question, for sure. And one I tried to answer in my earlier post, but I can answer it again more directly. I truly believe, and know that our admin’s goal is to continue our growth. A few things to keep in mind about UL: our previous admin, who was there for some 40 years, despised athletics and did his best to destroy them during his entire tenure. Those days are long gone. Once Napier is gone you can bet your bottom dollar his replacement will keep things going. Our current admin has stated that repeatedly.

Also the LFT area at 650K is the 3rd largest in state. The wider Acadiana region is ~1.4 million. It also a very prosperous region. So we have the necessary base. With all the baggage of Hud one thing he showed is how much potential we have if that based is fired up.

I mean if Mississippi can have 2 P6 schools, there is really no reason why Louisiana cannot.
Louisiana can, the problem for you is that it wouldn't be ULL. 05-stirthepot

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(06-14-2021 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.


Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

while CUSA is 'for below' the AAC, friend...but enjoy sloppy thirds on the conference we helped found.

Memphis State lol

http://winsipedia.com/marshall/vs/memphis
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(06-14-2021 11:15 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(06-14-2021 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

while CUSA is 'for below' the AAC, friend...but enjoy sloppy thirds on the conference we helped found.

Memphis State lol

http://winsipedia.com/marshall/vs/memphis

Oh how I wish it was only based on what happens on the field. Don't post the USM vs Memphis history. We don't want to scare our nice guest away.
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" Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. "

You are looking at the wrong metrics. The AAC was built on enrollments and markets. Those metrics provide attendance, support ( student fees ), and TV viewers ( media contracts ).

Where are the markets for Marshall and SMiss?
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the real difference between the AAC and anyone else is the willingness to spend academic side money and for many it is not paying off well at all and will not be sustainable

there is differentiation, but clearly not much if any between the AAC and MWC and there are several Sunbelt and CUSA teams that could compete in the AAC with their budgets

there are several in all conferences that are also not competing well with their budgets
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(06-14-2021 01:15 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  " Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. "

You are looking at the wrong metrics. The AAC was built on enrollments and markets. Those metrics provide attendance, support ( student fees ), and TV viewers ( media contracts ).

Where are the markets for Marshall and SMiss?

You do realize that when Marshall does get the chance to be on ESPN, that we do get comparable viewership numbers to any AAC school.

And I didn't know Tulane, Temple, SMU and the like own their markets.

And you really just put Tulsa Oklahoma on that level? Do you realize that FIU has a top five enrollment and in the Miami market? And how good is that doing for them?
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RE: P6
(06-14-2021 01:15 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  " Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. "

You are looking at the wrong metrics. The AAC was built on enrollments and markets. Those metrics provide attendance, support ( student fees ), and TV viewers ( media contracts ).

Where are the markets for Marshall and SMiss?

Disagree. CUSA was built (or rebuilt) on markets, enrollments and potential and it wasn't a good bet. The AAC was built on engaged fan bases, budgets and a history of on field success. The Sun Belt didnt care about markets and brought in fanbases and success... and thats how they caught up to us.
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(06-14-2021 01:47 PM)monarx Wrote:  The Sun Belt didnt care about markets and brought in fanbases and success... and thats how they caught up to us.

The Sun Belt took their limited budgets and put all of their eggs in one basket--football.
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(06-12-2021 07:14 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 07:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 01:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(06-12-2021 10:52 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I have a lot of respect for a few AAC schools, but I've seen this time and time again. They honestly believe they are better than us, by a lot. It's delusional.

It’s all bluster and they know better especially when we consistently smack around their best teams in bowl games.

42-7 in the first half against SMU and beating their Champ and ranked Navy in Ft Worth

It’s off season boredom, but the whole premise that the aac doesn’t bring markets is laughable and sounds like sour grapes. Don’t like the p6 marketing? I hear you. The whole idea of the campaign is that we’re superior to you so I don’t blame you guys. It’s inherently condescending and kinda ******.

If la tech was invited to the aac would you be in favor of joining?


Personally, I don’t mind it. You guys are doing what you are supposed to do both on and off the field. My only complaint with the AAC is Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. It bothers me that those programs got AAC invites over Marshall, So Miss, and UAB.

Marshall is only superior to us in players being unable to read.
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