(06-14-2021 01:50 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 01:47 PM)monarx Wrote:  The Sun Belt didnt care about markets and brought in fanbases and success... and thats how they caught up to us.

The Sun Belt took their limited budgets and put all of their eggs in one basket--football.

And it worked

(06-14-2021 02:09 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:14 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 01:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 10:52 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I have a lot of respect for a few AAC schools, but I've seen this time and time again. They honestly believe they are better than us, by a lot. It's delusional.

It’s all bluster and they know better especially when we consistently smack around their best teams in bowl games.

42-7 in the first half against SMU and beating their Champ and ranked Navy in Ft Worth

It’s off season boredom, but the whole premise that the aac doesn’t bring markets is laughable and sounds like sour grapes. Don’t like the p6 marketing? I hear you. The whole idea of the campaign is that we’re superior to you so I don’t blame you guys. It’s inherently condescending and kinda ******.

If la tech was invited to the aac would you be in favor of joining?

Personally, I don’t mind it. You guys are doing what you are supposed to do both on and off the field. My only complaint with the AAC is Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. It bothers me that those programs got AAC invites over Marshall, So Miss, and UAB.

Marshall is only superior to us in players being unable to read.

Temple is probably the least deserving of all teams in the AAC.

http://www.winsipedia.com/temple/vs/southern-miss

Temple has never played USM but look at that 44% all time win % good for 114 out of 131 teams all time. Wow...that's not even mediocre. That is very poor. USM is 39th in wins. You have your great market and players who can read but you can't win football games. You don't even deserve MACtion.

(06-14-2021 02:09 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:14 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 01:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 10:52 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I have a lot of respect for a few AAC schools, but I've seen this time and time again. They honestly believe they are better than us, by a lot. It's delusional.

It’s all bluster and they know better especially when we consistently smack around their best teams in bowl games.

42-7 in the first half against SMU and beating their Champ and ranked Navy in Ft Worth

It’s off season boredom, but the whole premise that the aac doesn’t bring markets is laughable and sounds like sour grapes. Don’t like the p6 marketing? I hear you. The whole idea of the campaign is that we’re superior to you so I don’t blame you guys. It’s inherently condescending and kinda ******.

If la tech was invited to the aac would you be in favor of joining?

Personally, I don’t mind it. You guys are doing what you are supposed to do both on and off the field. My only complaint with the AAC is Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. It bothers me that those programs got AAC invites over Marshall, So Miss, and UAB.

Marshall is only superior to us in players being unable to read.

Oh man you just burned us! WOWZERS that was a good one!

(06-14-2021 02:22 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:09 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:14 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 01:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  It’s all bluster and they know better especially when we consistently smack around their best teams in bowl games.

42-7 in the first half against SMU and beating their Champ and ranked Navy in Ft Worth

It’s off season boredom, but the whole premise that the aac doesn’t bring markets is laughable and sounds like sour grapes. Don’t like the p6 marketing? I hear you. The whole idea of the campaign is that we’re superior to you so I don’t blame you guys. It’s inherently condescending and kinda ******.

If la tech was invited to the aac would you be in favor of joining?

Personally, I don’t mind it. You guys are doing what you are supposed to do both on and off the field. My only complaint with the AAC is Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. It bothers me that those programs got AAC invites over Marshall, So Miss, and UAB.

Marshall is only superior to us in players being unable to read.

Temple is probably the least deserving of all teams in the AAC.

http://www.winsipedia.com/temple/vs/southern-miss

Temple has never played USM but look at that 44% all time win % good for 114 out of 131 teams all time. Wow...that's not even mediocre. That is very poor. USM is 39th in wins. You have your great market and players who can read but you can't win football games. You don't even deserve MACtion.

Want to talk NFL players?

(06-14-2021 02:31 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:09 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:14 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 01:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  It’s all bluster and they know better especially when we consistently smack around their best teams in bowl games.

42-7 in the first half against SMU and beating their Champ and ranked Navy in Ft Worth

It’s off season boredom, but the whole premise that the aac doesn’t bring markets is laughable and sounds like sour grapes. Don’t like the p6 marketing? I hear you. The whole idea of the campaign is that we’re superior to you so I don’t blame you guys. It’s inherently condescending and kinda ******.

If la tech was invited to the aac would you be in favor of joining?

Personally, I don’t mind it. You guys are doing what you are supposed to do both on and off the field. My only complaint with the AAC is Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. It bothers me that those programs got AAC invites over Marshall, So Miss, and UAB.

Marshall is only superior to us in players being unable to read.

Oh man you just burned us! WOWZERS that was a good one!

You shouldn't be proud that your players are illiterate.

The American conference fans are the most miserable collection of fans in existence.

Constant wenis comparison. No sense of humor. It's literally Philadelphia brought to life.

Here is the reality. Ask any SEC fan what conference UCF, App State, Marshall, Toledo, Boise State or anybody not SEC play in and you won't get a straight answer.

None of it matters to P5 fans.

(06-14-2021 02:49 PM)rileylives Wrote:  The American conference fans are the most miserable collection of fans in existence.

Constant wenis comparison. No sense of humor. It's literally Philadelphia brought to life.

I'm pretty sure that's what you're doing at the moment.

I try hard to not judge on who is deserving and who isn't when it comes to stuff like this. College sports in a way reflects life. Some are just luckier than others. Some are just better than others. Louisiana Tech has a whole lot to be proud of. We have everything but money. It is a proven fact that Tech pays less per win across all sports than any other FBS athletic program in the country. Does that qualify us to be in a better conference? Of course not. Some schools like Temple or Mississippi State had the benefit of being associated with other great programs or were just good at the right time. I don't envy their success one bit. Good for them. I am certainly not going to discount what they have done based off of win percentage either. Temple was in the Big East with some brutal football teams from 91 to 04. I don't know how Tech would have faired with Miami, Vat Tech, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, and West Virginia on the schedule every year. I also don't know what Tech could have done with the money, prestige and talent that that level of football brings either.

(06-14-2021 02:58 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Here is the reality. Ask any SEC fan what conference UCF, App State, Marshall, Toledo, Boise State or anybody not SEC play in and you won't get a straight answer.

None of it matters to P5 fans.

If you had picked any other P5, I’d agree… my IL relatives still forget Nebraska is in the B1G. However, SEC fans tend to be more knowledgeable on college football in general and surprisingly so where the AAC is concerned (at least the UA/AU fans in my neck of the woods). UCF’s NC claim really twerked Bama fans. Finebaum spent a bunch of time on it…not to mention callers still complaining about it to this day. The effect was many fans learning the makeup of the conference to prove a point about UCF’s sos. So, while it wasn’t done out of respect, that one claim got all members exposure. I track media mentions and can sort by geography. AAC coverage in the southeast boomed then and continues to increase year over year (not saying it’s all good), just that the number of outlets reporting is increasing. This isn’t to say all SEC fans know all AACs teams, but you don’t have to look very long on social media to realize many many know what conference UCF plays in and their opinion of AAC teams…spoiler alert, it isn’t good. Realistically, the conference is still in its infancy with a long way to go, but off to a pretty good start.

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 09:22 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I don’t know or care about the rest of CUSA. I just know we have been ranked 15 weeks, we have 3 conference championship appearances and 1 championship.

The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.

Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

(06-14-2021 10:39 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:11 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:40 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 03:25 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:51 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  You are right to a degree. I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The biggest issue we face is the financial disparity. Tech and USM can't raise the sufficient endowment needed to compete when we are constantly fundraising just to keep the lights on. Our association with each other is a strong point but it has not been marketed nearly as well as others. CUSA has done a terrible job of flexing its brand. When folks look at us they see a ramshackle group of teams floating from network to network for games and no real identity. Sunbelt did a fantastic job of really showing out while others were looking and while it isn't sustainableit can lead to other things. Liberty and BYU have deep coffers because of their religious affiliations and because Liberty has really horned in on the online education concept. Many of us have a century long history of great football but our piss poor management and bad luck as not allowed us to capitalize on it at the right time.

Thanks for the praise. Despite how some others would try to play that down 2020 was a fantastic year for UL and the SBC, it of course was. But what are you saying is not sustainable? Many, including most of the national sports press/pundits, so not just UL fans, are saying 2021 will be even better.

It's not just you guys. What G5 programs have a chance at sustainable success? A select few maybe? There are many factors. One big one is leadership and continuing to make good coaching hires. This is a big reason USM fell off. When Napier is gone we will see. UCF and the like continue to make good hires and have the money to attract the Malzhans of the world. Although independent, Liberty being able to keep Freeze is huge for their sustained success. Cincy keeping their coach is a major factor.

Well, that is the question, for sure. And one I tried to answer in my earlier post, but I can answer it again more directly. I truly believe, and know that our admin’s goal is to continue our growth. A few things to keep in mind about UL: our previous admin, who was there for some 40 years, despised athletics and did his best to destroy them during his entire tenure. Those days are long gone. Once Napier is gone you can bet your bottom dollar his replacement will keep things going. Our current admin has stated that repeatedly.

Also the LFT area at 650K is the 3rd largest in state. The wider Acadiana region is ~1.4 million. It also a very prosperous region. So we have the necessary base. With all the baggage of Hud one thing he showed is how much potential we have if that based is fired up.

I mean if Mississippi can have 2 P6 schools, there is really no reason why Louisiana cannot.

Louisiana can, the problem for you is that it wouldn't be ULL.

https://www.hannapub.com/ouachitacitizen...602d5.html

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-.../96642540/

https://t.co/l5zsLmqRXs?amp=1

Wow….can’t believe you think there is any credibility to idiot’s ramblings on this subject. Who is he, your former AD’s twin, lol?!!!

(06-14-2021 11:15 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

while CUSA is 'for below' the AAC, friend...but enjoy sloppy thirds on the conference we helped found.

Memphis State lol

http://winsipedia.com/marshall/vs/memphis

calling us Memphis State is no insult...we love it.

(06-14-2021 02:46 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:31 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:09 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:14 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:02 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  It’s off season boredom, but the whole premise that the aac doesn’t bring markets is laughable and sounds like sour grapes. Don’t like the p6 marketing? I hear you. The whole idea of the campaign is that we’re superior to you so I don’t blame you guys. It’s inherently condescending and kinda ******.

If la tech was invited to the aac would you be in favor of joining?

Personally, I don’t mind it. You guys are doing what you are supposed to do both on and off the field. My only complaint with the AAC is Marshall is superior to Tulane, Temple, SMU, and Tulsa. It bothers me that those programs got AAC invites over Marshall, So Miss, and UAB.

Marshall is only superior to us in players being unable to read.

Oh man you just burned us! WOWZERS that was a good one!

You shouldn't be proud that your players are illiterate.

Are you proud that you're a douche?

http://winsipedia.com/marshall/vs/temple

(06-14-2021 10:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:15 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

while CUSA is 'for below' the AAC, friend...but enjoy sloppy thirds on the conference we helped found.

Memphis State lol

http://winsipedia.com/marshall/vs/memphis

calling us Memphis State is no insult...we love it.

Cool, but this thread is entirely about football.

What They hate is being called Tiger High

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:56 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  The discussion is about the separation between the AAC and other non-automonous conferences. That 15 weeks puts you in the bottom half of the AAC and you are the best of three of the four conferences clearly shows exactly what the letter intended and why the language for the play offs have changed to the top 6 ranked conferences' champions as an auto berth. It's why they sent the letter. We compare closer to the A5 than the other conferences, it is literally the purpose of the p6 campaign to point that out.

Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Regardless... you are closer to the rest of the G5 than you are to any of the P5.

we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

(06-15-2021 08:37 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 05:21 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 09:05 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 07:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  we're fine with being the 'tweener' conference

"Tweener" would insinuate the "middle". The AAC is for below the middle between the P5 and G5.

You would think that after moving goal posts and still losing you would stop. But no you just can't help yourself.

Here are actual numbers that disprove what you desperately want to be true:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-867843-page-2.html post 26 by SlhNavy compares the AAC to the g4 and to the power conferences in Television ratings. We're smack in the middle.

This thread is up to date and discusses our infield performances. We have finished closer to the A5 than the G5 every year but two, where we were still closer to A5 then three other conferences and closer to 6th than any g4 has been to us. One year we finished better than a A5 conference, something no g4 conference has come close to

It's on a Message Board so it must be true LOL

You finished closer to the G5 because you are in the G5.

First it comes with sources so feel free to check, but doing that would ruin your little fantasy.

Second this is what you got? These are the best responses you can muster?