Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

(09-12-2025 10:05 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

Really? I'm shocked, lol. GC, did you REALLY think I was trying to change Tom's mind?

Hell, I'm not convinced he actually has one that can be changed. I'm thinking no, lol.

(09-12-2025 09:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  22 year old Utah State engineering student. How does a kid from what on the surface appears to be a very normal middle class background turn into an assassin? Instead of investigating “left wing violence” what needs to be investigated is the impact of social media on white male teens… because this epidemic and disenfranchisement is rooted there and its not bound by political ideology. Utah State is an AG school in a very conservative state, its not some bastion of liberal ideology. Reviewing some of the social media links on Threads, his existence seemed very normal.

I feel terrible for his parents.

For maybe the first time, I agree with an entire post form Mensa...

Okay, Tom, I thought about it. No, I don't agree with it. I prefer to just kick your ass every time you say something stupid. Which is often.

(09-12-2025 10:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:05 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

Really? I'm shocked, lol. GC, did you REALLY think I was trying to change Tom's mind?

Hell, I'm not convinced he actually has one that can be changed. I'm thinking no, lol.

Oh, you misunderstand me. I meant his heart will never change. He says he's a Christian, but his actions say otherwise.

(09-12-2025 10:11 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:05 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

Really? I'm shocked, lol. GC, did you REALLY think I was trying to change Tom's mind?

Hell, I'm not convinced he actually has one that can be changed. I'm thinking no, lol.

Oh, you misunderstand me. I meant his heart will never change. He says he's a question, but his actions say otherwise.

Heart. Mind. Whatever. NO. No ambiguity about Tom whatsoever, lol.

Hang him from the roof he took the shot from. Livestream it.

(09-12-2025 10:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:11 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:05 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

Really? I'm shocked, lol. GC, did you REALLY think I was trying to change Tom's mind?

Hell, I'm not convinced he actually has one that can be changed. I'm thinking no, lol.

Oh, you misunderstand me. I meant his heart will never change. He says he's a question, but his actions say otherwise.

Heart. Mind. Whatever. NO. No ambiguity about Tom whatsoever, lol.

I meant to put Christian, not "question" there. My fault.

No apology necessary.

So a kid from a Mormon (at least his mom is mormon, sounds like), Republican family kills a Christian nationalist talking head.
I'm sure they will continue to blame THE LEFT but it will take some serious mental gymnastics to get there.

(09-12-2025 09:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  22 year old Utah State engineering student. How does a kid from what on the surface appears to be a very normal middle class background turn into an assassin? Instead of investigating “left wing violence” what needs to be investigated is the impact of social media on white male teens… because this epidemic and disenfranchisement is rooted there and its not bound by political ideology. Utah State is an AG school in a very conservative state, its not some bastion of liberal ideology. Reviewing some of the social media links on Threads, his existence seemed very normal.

I feel terrible for his parents.

I have to commend the father for turning him in knowing that the state is going to pursue the death penalty.

(09-12-2025 10:05 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

Tom's not a troll.

He posts something that he thinks is correct and celebrates. Then he is proven an idiot just moments later. Then he doubles down on stupid.

Not a troll. Just someone who's desperately trying to get their first "win."

(09-12-2025 09:24 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Now that it’s confirmed he wasn’t an antifa super soldier are you guys going to chill out on the “we are at war with the left” rhetoric?

Also there’s been zero real factual evidence or confirmation of “trans messages” engraved onto the gun. People online and medi outlets want to sow further division.

(09-12-2025 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 07:29 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 07:28 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 07:24 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Good. Prove it's him beyond a reasonable doubt and be done with him.

Or just hang him

Trump is b!tching that it will take years to get him to trial.

Bitching...with absolutely no self-awareness. You can't make this up.

The fact that you can type those words is mind-numbing and hilarious, at the same time.

(09-12-2025 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 10:05 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Tom's not going to change, 3A. He's always going to be a crap-stirring, crap-spewing troll.

Tom's not a troll.

He posts something that he thinks is correct and celebrates. Then he is proven an idiot just moments later. Then he doubles down on stupid.

Not a troll. Just someone who's desperately trying to get their first "win."

Nailed it.

(09-12-2025 10:21 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  So a kid from a Mormon (at least his mom is mormon, sounds like), Republican family kills a Christian nationalist talking head.
I'm sure they will continue to blame THE LEFT but it will take some serious mental gymnastics to get there.

That’s a horrible post. Seriously.

YOU are also making some sizable assumptions yourself. But those assumptions are just fine, right?

Because the kid likes guns he’s a conservative?
Because his family may or may not be conservative makes him conservative?

When it all plays out we’ll see how your assumptions stack up.

(09-12-2025 09:24 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 09:17 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 09:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  22 year old Utah State engineering student. How does a kid from what on the surface appears to be a very normal middle class background turn into an assassin? Instead of investigating “left wing violence” what needs to be investigated is the impact of social media on white male teens… because this epidemic and disenfranchisement is rooted there and its not bound by political ideology. Utah State is an AG school in a very conservative state, its not some bastion of liberal ideology. Reviewing some of the social media links on Threads, his existence seemed very normal.

I feel terrible for his parents.

I feel terrible for Charlie Kirk and his family.

I also feel bad for people who don’t recognize the damage that liberal narratives project on people gullible enough to believe those narratives.

Additionally I feel bad for the victims of the selective racism of the left and the fact that they are arrogant enough to play the race card but choose to ignore the race who, percentage wise, is inflicting the most crime on the most people in this country.

I hate you’re so blind to partisanship that you can’t see the issue of disenfranchised young males and the challenge social media presents in trying to raise them. This is not a partisan political issue. Its a parenting issue and these kids spend more time on their phones than they do connecting with others; and there are just as many examples of those co-opted by right wing hate as there are on the left… likely more.

I hate that you changed your statement. In your original post, you said “white” male teens. You are a racist.

(09-12-2025 10:26 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 09:24 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 09:17 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 09:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  22 year old Utah State engineering student. How does a kid from what on the surface appears to be a very normal middle class background turn into an assassin? Instead of investigating “left wing violence” what needs to be investigated is the impact of social media on white male teens… because this epidemic and disenfranchisement is rooted there and its not bound by political ideology. Utah State is an AG school in a very conservative state, its not some bastion of liberal ideology. Reviewing some of the social media links on Threads, his existence seemed very normal.

I feel terrible for his parents.

I feel terrible for Charlie Kirk and his family.

I also feel bad for people who don’t recognize the damage that liberal narratives project on people gullible enough to believe those narratives.

Additionally I feel bad for the victims of the selective racism of the left and the fact that they are arrogant enough to play the race card but choose to ignore the race who, percentage wise, is inflicting the most crime on the most people in this country.

I hate you’re so blind to partisanship that you can’t see the issue of disenfranchised young males and the challenge social media presents in trying to raise them. This is not a partisan political issue. Its a parenting issue and these kids spend more time on their phones than they do connecting with others; and there are just as many examples of those co-opted by right wing hate as there are on the left… likely more.

I hate that you changed your statement. In your original post, you said “white” male teens. You are a racist.

Yep

(09-12-2025 10:21 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  So a kid from a Mormon (at least his mom is mormon, sounds like), Republican family kills a Christian nationalist talking head.
I'm sure they will continue to blame THE LEFT but it will take some serious mental gymnastics to get there.

Why are you guys so easily duped? You just laid it out there, and should see how the dots DONT connect, but you are so giddy at what you are being fed that you ignore reality.

I found it interesting they said the assasin's minister was part of law enforcement. Though there are many lay ministers in Evangelical churches, that report indicates to me that he is probably Mormon since all leaders of local congregations are unpaid and have outside employment. That may surprise many of you that a Mormon would do this, but it would not be surprising to many that have been around the LDS church recently, as the church has significant infiltration by leftists, feminists and communists. I could be wrong, but it does seem to fit some patterns I have seen.

Also, it looks like he was part of the "Covid Class" that had their final years of high school or first years of college totally messed up by the lockdowns. I think it negatively affected many of our youth, but those going from high school to college in that time were especially hard hit. Maybe part of his insane hatred traces back to the heavy restrictions that the state of Utah imposed at that time. The governor who now wants the death penalty for him may have played a part in the anti-social behavior his lockdowns helped generate.