(06-22-2025 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 03:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 03:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:37 AM)hburg Wrote:  If you notice the left has changed some of their messaging. For example, they are using the no new wars against Trump. Never mind the war with Hamas/Iran started October 7. They are also fear mongering about sending troops.. Which will not happen.

Quoting only for posterity. You'll retcon your justifications about why it had to happen later same as the rest of this board. Iran is going to retaliate and kill American's, I wish they wouldn't but that's just reality. There is no level of bombing campaign short of nukes that's going to succeed in completely eliminating their ability to strike targets and continue surviving, see the Houthis. We can eliminate their entire navy and they'll still have the ability to strike targets in the Strait of Hormuz and effectively close it.

Also, there's this insane duality about Iranian actions/thought processes. That they are on the one hand completely deranged and want death to Israel and the US at all costs and can never negotiate in good faith, and on the other that you can somehow bomb them into "acting rationally" and seeking peace. These 2 things literally can't be true at the same time.

The residents of Japan would disagree. We nuked their radical religion practically out of existence

Even the deranged have their limits

I literally said in my post short of nuking them. Are you saying you support the idea of nuking them?

We don't have to nuke them and we don't have to stop them from ever killing anyone again. Those are stawmen you made up out of thin air.

The point here is to remove the nuclear threat, and that is what is happening. As long as Iran exists and Islam is a thing they will always hate and wish they could destroy Israel.

No one is pretending like we will ever stop that completely.

In fact becuase I'm a Bible believer I already know Iran will still invade Israel along with Russia and a few other Muslim nations at some future point, its the last Holy Land war and its laid out in great detail in the Bible.

(06-22-2025 04:01 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 03:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 02:53 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  2 days at most.

LOL. Sink 226 vessels in two days? Plus, good luck with the 26 submarines and mini-subs.

The US has about 480 ships of various types. Think somebody could sink all of them in 4 days?

I know you arent trying to say that the only way we would destroy Iran's Navy is with just our ships... I mean, if that were the case where only boats could fire upon other boats, you might have a point, it might take a week... but our Navy also includes thousands of aircraft and then we have the, you know, air force, and then we have bombs that can be shot from hundreds of miles away....

Their navy would be destroyed in a matter of 2 days.

I don't think we would do it that way. Unnecessary. We might kill their warships in 2 days. But that's not what Elvis said. He said ALL their ships.

It makes no sense to sink anything else. But if you tried to do it, you sure as hell couldn't do all 200+ floating thingies in 2 days, lol.

It's just a matter of sheer numbers. As I said before, we have about 470 ships active and reserve. About twice Iran's. Do you think somebody could sink all of ours in 4 days? Especially if they are spread out?

And no, I didn't mean only with ships. I'm not that dumb. I'm not a Democrat.

And I was actually in the Navy. And worked for SecNav another 15 years as a consultant. So yeah, I know a thing about navies.

Imagine a world where Gamenole is more reasonable than b0ndsj0ns. Hard to imagine, but here we are.

(06-22-2025 03:37 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Name 1 single time we've done that, and name one single time it didn't eventually become a bigger problem than the problem we overthrew in the first place. I'll wait...

AGAIN, no one is taking about troops on the ground pulling a regime change/occupation/nation building.

Stop pretending like that is what is happening or people are calling for such. As long as DJT is POTUS there is absolute ZERO chance of any of that.

You might as well argue Trump is going to become a socialist globalist tomorrow. That is utterly retarded and well all know it will never happen. Unless you are a complete idiot and just stupid enough to believe such a thing.

(06-21-2025 08:11 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

I remember reading that when this song was released they hadn’t contracted with the Beach Boys to use Barbara Ann. They apparently settled because this was still out there.

Keep in mind these are the same Beach Boys who sued Katy Perry and Snoop Dogg because Snoop added “I wish they all could be California girls” to California Gurls.

Thanks for posting this. Hadn’t thought about this in years.

It's a damn catchy tune.

Hey CJ, you need to figure out a way to get rid of Massie, lol.

(06-22-2025 03:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Surprise. The head of the UN just condemned our actions in Iran last night.

Why haven't we kicked them out of NYC yet?

Exactly…. Show the UN the door and flip them the bird as they walk out.

(06-22-2025 04:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It's a damn catchy tune.

Hey CJ, you need to figure out a way to get rid of Massie, lol.

Massie is one of those Northern Kentucky reps. He represents most of the Cincinnati bedroom communities in Northern Kentucky.


Honestly never saw him as an obstructionist until recently. He’s very popular in his district.

(06-22-2025 04:36 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 04:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It's a damn catchy tune.

Hey CJ, you need to figure out a way to get rid of Massie, lol.

Massie is one of those Northern Kentucky reps. He represents most of the Cincinnati bedroom communities in Northern Kentucky.


Honestly never saw him as an obstructionist until recently. He’s very popular in his district.

Well, he's being a pain in the ass at the moment.

lulz, yo hakeem. who were you with last night when you couldnt pick up the phone.

(06-22-2025 11:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:49 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, Elvis, you still are ignoring the comments about your statement that we should have used JDAMs instead of Tomahawks.

Are you sure you don't want to explain why we're wrong to think that was an incredibly stupid statement?

Or maybe average people saw it, and I missed it.

I made it pretty clear in this thread that B1 or B2 delivered JDAMs were much more economical that tomahawks, and that my speculation is that their inclusion is branch politics and the Navy basically not wanting to to be left out.

Btw, your idea that the Navy didn't want to be left out is, IMO, a ridiculous assumption.

Especially since I spent so many years working with SecNav. The last thing they would do in a critical war mission is make decisions based on "not wanting to be left out."

Frankly, that is absurd.

It's all night time soap opera to the likes of elvis. Nothing is too absurd.

Quote:JUST IN: The White House DID give courtesy calls to brief Congressional Democrat Leaders prior to launching the strike on Iran, per Karoline Leavitt

MORE DEMOCRAT LIES!

They spoke with Schumer, but Jeffries didn’t pick up the phone.

It’s probably a good thing he didn’t, or the whole operation would’ve coincidentally been “leaked”

Has anybody noticed that Trump's blond hair has suddenly turned snow white?

Also, I made it through 2 minutes of that nut case Crockett before I had to turn it off.

(06-22-2025 03:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Surprise. The head of the UN just condemned our actions in Iran last night.

Why haven't we kicked them out of NYC yet?

This should be Trump's response to the UN.

(06-22-2025 05:03 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 03:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Surprise. The head of the UN just condemned our actions in Iran last night.

Why haven't we kicked them out of NYC yet?

This should be Trump's response to the UN.

(06-22-2025 03:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:37 AM)hburg Wrote:  If you notice the left has changed some of their messaging. For example, they are using the no new wars against Trump. Never mind the war with Hamas/Iran started October 7. They are also fear mongering about sending troops.. Which will not happen.

Quoting only for posterity. You'll retcon your justifications about why it had to happen later same as the rest of this board. Iran is going to retaliate and kill American's, I wish they wouldn't but that's just reality. There is no level of bombing campaign short of nukes that's going to succeed in completely eliminating their ability to strike targets and continue surviving, see the Houthis. We can eliminate their entire navy and they'll still have the ability to strike targets in the Strait of Hormuz and effectively close it.

Also, there's this insane duality about Iranian actions/thought processes. That they are on the one hand completely deranged and want death to Israel and the US at all costs and can never negotiate in good faith, and on the other that you can somehow bomb them into "acting rationally" and seeking peace. These 2 things literally can't be true at the same time.

Self preservation is a very powerful motivator.

(06-22-2025 03:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Surprise. The head of the UN just condemned our actions in Iran last night.

Why haven't we kicked them out of NYC yet?

That's fine. That's expected. They think like Obama. Everything can be solved with talk and money.

(06-22-2025 05:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 03:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Surprise. The head of the UN just condemned our actions in Iran last night.

Why haven't we kicked them out of NYC yet?

That's fine. That's expected. They think like Obama. Everything can be solved with talk and money.

So kick them out already. They are worse than useless. They are virulently anti-American. Enough already.

(06-22-2025 04:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It's a damn catchy tune.

Hey CJ, you need to figure out a way to get rid of Massie, lol.

I remember riding around in my friend's Camaro with this at full blast.
This is what almost everyone wanted to do at the time.

(06-22-2025 04:46 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:49 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, Elvis, you still are ignoring the comments about your statement that we should have used JDAMs instead of Tomahawks.

Are you sure you don't want to explain why we're wrong to think that was an incredibly stupid statement?

Or maybe average people saw it, and I missed it.

I made it pretty clear in this thread that B1 or B2 delivered JDAMs were much more economical that tomahawks, and that my speculation is that their inclusion is branch politics and the Navy basically not wanting to to be left out.

Btw, your idea that the Navy didn't want to be left out is, IMO, a ridiculous assumption.

Especially since I spent so many years working with SecNav. The last thing they would do in a critical war mission is make decisions based on "not wanting to be left out."

Frankly, that is absurd.

It's all night time soap opera to the likes of elvis. Nothing is too absurd.

You’re living in a fantasy world if you don’t think there is political scheming between branches over overlapping mission capabilities and tasking.