(09-13-2014 04:08 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: No its called you keep ignoring the question because you have some axe to grind against Buffalo or something.
The question was about NY public schools. Syracuse, Army (Federal), Penn State, Rutgers, and Notre Dame do not count towards this question because they are not a NY public school. Just so you don't miss it...
ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS HAVE HIGHER FAN INTEREST IN THE STATE OF NY BY AND LARGE THAN BUFFALO.
That said none of them answer the question so yes ignoring the wrong answers yes I can come to that conclusion. Granted I am not a Buffalo fan. I lived in the Binghaton area so for me if I wanted to uplift a SUNY school it would be Binghatmon but even so I know that Buffalo is far ahead of them in the sports column and football is one reason why.
And yes I know Cornell is public I live near there but you are absolutely nuts if you think most people even in state know that. Most people think that Cornell is private full stop. There are a great many people that do not know that Cornell is the state land grant. As for Buffalo being the back up school it is very common in the NE to treat any public school as a back up almost no matter how good it is. It is how the NE treats schools in general but even so that does not mean it is actually something that should be true. Many of the SUNY schools, even the smaller ones, are in fact very good academic institutions but are not always well known outside of the state due to a lack advertising them and that the NE does not treat them with the respect many deserve.
I admit that Buffalo kind of wins be default on this question because there just isn't much competition yet for this sort of thing in the state public systems. Heck the state of NY seemed dead set against schools doing major sports for a very long time despite having the resources to do so.
You are absolutely 100% delusional. My original comment was:
"You do realize that CMU and UB are two different schools, right? UB isn't even the best state school in the state, nor is it the most well known public school in the state."
and it was in response to this:
"[A] CMU victory over Syracuse tomorrow can allow UB to claim the state (Syracuse and Army)"
Nowhere in that did I throw in the bunch of arbitrary qualifications (that were very clearly cherry picked) that you are currently demanding. In fact, the poster before me (the guy to whom I was responding) even mentioned Syracuse (private) and Army (Public - Federal), so your entire theory that Army shouldn't be included when I mentioned "public school in the state" is astoundingly perplexing. As for your question (which I did answer), it is both stupid and irrelevant.
Fact One:
Army is public
Fact Two:
Army is the best known public school in NY State
Fact Three:
Cornell's 3 statutory colleges are public.
Fact Four:
Cornell's 3 statutory colleges are better than UB.
Fact Five:
Cornell (and its 3 stat colleges) are in NYS.
Fact Six:
UB is in NYS
Therefore:
1. UB isn't even the best state school in the state (see facts 3, 4, 5, and 6)
And 2. UB is not the most well known public school in the state (see facts 1, 2, 6)
Another way of saying those two conclusions is "UB isn't even the best state school in the state, nor is it the most well known public school in the state," which is what I originally said and has been my point all along. I freely added that other schools (i.e. PSU, RU, SU, and ND) have bigger followings in the state, but that is neither false, nor a detraction from my original point. In fact, it enhances the spirit of my original point, which was that UB is not a power in NYS.
Everything that you said to the contrary is laughably misguided (i.e. few people in NYS know Cornell is partially public <-- this is also 100% irrelevant) and/or a shameless lie (i.e. accusing me of ignoring your question after I answered it clearly) and/or irrelevant (i.e. the fact that Army is funded by the federal government and UB is funded by NY state government).
You clearly have a half-baked anti-Syracuse/anti-common sense bias. My only beef against Buffalo is that their fans tend to have a laughably over-inflated sense of self-worth (see this thread), as do MAC fans in general (see this thread).