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Birmingham song after 2 games
The sing a long is a massive bomb....BUTTTTTTTTTT...the chorus part actually worked. Why not just play the chorus only and sing along with that? The whole first line about a dog named Dan...nobody is gonna sing along with that, but once the chorus hit people did start to take notice.

I have been anti this song, but i think i can live with just chorus
10-11-2021 10:49 AM
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Yep, I would do it postgame, after wins, have the band lead into it and then just the chorus, and go right from that to the alma mater.

Only after home Ws
10-11-2021 10:55 AM
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My biggest problem is that it's actually a song about making fun of the simpletons of Birmingham. It was written in the 70s in the context of George Wallace and all of the problems in Birmingham, Alabama, and the South at the time. It's not actually a great song to be proud of. It's like the line about Birmingham in Sweet Home Alabama, it's meant as a bad thing
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(10-11-2021 10:56 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  My biggest problem is that it's actually a song about making fun of the simpletons of Birmingham. It was written in the 70s in the context of George Wallace and all of the problems in Birmingham, Alabama, and the South at the time. It's not actually a great song to be proud of. It's like the line about Birmingham in Sweet Home Alabama, it's meant as a bad thing

Actually the line about Birmingham loving the governor was because he s were the only district he didn’t win. There is a reason I-65 stopped at the city line until the eighties. You had take 31 though Birmingham
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(10-11-2021 10:49 AM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  i think i can live with just chorus

What a tradition. 03-banghead
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(10-11-2021 10:56 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  My biggest problem is that it's actually a song about making fun of the simpletons of Birmingham. It was written in the 70s in the context of George Wallace and all of the problems in Birmingham, Alabama, and the South at the time. It's not actually a great song to be proud of. It's like the line about Birmingham in Sweet Home Alabama, it's meant as a bad thing

Yes...this is what kills me the most. People that want to shove this song down our throats don't even know what it means. Good Old Boys was a concept album about the South in the late civil rights movement era. Go look at the lyrics of the song that precedes it on the album titled "Rednecks" if you want to get the picture.

Birmingham is about a guy thinking life is great in Birmingham and ignoring basically everything that is happening around him. Even his "big black dog" being referred as the meanest dog in the state is commentary about the subject's point of view.

So many Randy Newman fans that don't even know that his bread and butter is satire. Makes us look as clueless now as that song did in 1974.
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10-11-2021 11:15 AM
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Good with the song and can’t wait to sing it again.
10-11-2021 11:30 AM
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(10-11-2021 11:30 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Good with the song and can’t wait to sing it again.

Sorry, good enough is not good enough. So sick and tired of UAB trying to be Dollar General Alabama and everyone thinking that the low-ass bar we've set is just fine
10-11-2021 11:33 AM
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(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(10-11-2021 10:56 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  My biggest problem is that it's actually a song about making fun of the simpletons of Birmingham. It was written in the 70s in the context of George Wallace and all of the problems in Birmingham, Alabama, and the South at the time. It's not actually a great song to be proud of. It's like the line about Birmingham in Sweet Home Alabama, it's meant as a bad thing

Yes...this is what kills me the most. People that want to shove this song down our throats don't even know what it means. Good Old Boys was a concept album about the South in the late civil rights movement era. Go look at the lyrics of the song that precedes it on the album titled "Rednecks" if you want to get the picture.

Birmingham is about a guy thinking life is great in Birmingham and ignoring basically everything that is happening around him. Even his "big black dog" being referred as the meanest dog in the state is commentary about the subject's point of view.

So many Randy Newman fans that don't even know that his bread and butter is satire. Makes us look as clueless now as that song did in 1974.

maybe they could swap it out with Black Betty
10-11-2021 11:38 AM
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Lol
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(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  Yes...this is what kills me the most. People that want to shove this song down our throats don't even know what it means. Good Old Boys was a concept album about the South in the late civil rights movement era. Go look at the lyrics of the song that precedes it on the album titled "Rednecks" if you want to get the picture.

Birmingham is about a guy thinking life is great in Birmingham and ignoring basically everything that is happening around him. Even his "big black dog" being referred as the meanest dog in the state is commentary about the subject's point of view.

So many Randy Newman fans that don't even know that his bread and butter is satire. Makes us look as clueless now as that song did in 1974.

You posted first, damn you! Here's what I had:

I had a really good time Saturday. I had craft beer and I saw my team win. I don’t think I was counted in the crowd – the guy with the metal-detecting wand just pointed to an open gate.

I’ll be back for every game this season. I’ll drink craft beer and I’ll have a good time. What I will not be doing, is singing along to Randy Newman’s Birmingham. And not just because it’s a stupid song. I will explain.

Birmingham is found on Newman’s 1974 album, Good Old Boys, a collection of songs about the racist, backward South. Let’s look at the end of the song that comes just ahead of Birmingham on the album, titled, Rednecks.

We’re rednecks, we’re rednecks
We don’t know our ass
From a hole in the ground
We’re rednecks, we’re rednecks
We’re keeping the n*****s down
We are keeping the n*****s down


Newman does not use asterisks, by the way, and he snarls the word when he performs it. His point is clear.

Now, how does Birmingham end?

Got a big black dog his name is Dan
He lives in my backyard in Birmingham
He’s the meanest dog in Alabam’
Get ’em Dan!


So. We have a song about siccing dogs on people. In Birmingham. From an album condemning Southern racism. Do I need to post a picture, or do we all know how the Birmingham-Dog connection works?

This song is no celebration of Birmingham. It’s a damnation. Using it as a sing-along is perverse, and trying to make it into a tradition is . . . I lack the words for it.

At least Vince McMahon had the sense to rename his crapulent fourth-rate football team the moment he realized what “Birmingham Blast” evoked. Whatever idiot decided on this course has no business marketing our program. I will not be singing this song, not with those lyrics.
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Do sing it or don't. All the whining isn't going to change a thing. 99.999% of people don't know and don't give a damn about what the song inferred when it was written. I mean people love "Puff the Magic Dragon" and we all know what that one is about.

I personally hate the Blazer Thunder clap...talk about forced stolen traditions. I choose not to participate, but I'm not going to ***** about it happening.
10-11-2021 12:15 PM
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Wow, just wow. I was never a fan of the song to begin with, but that should be the end of it.
10-11-2021 12:17 PM
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(10-11-2021 12:15 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  Do sing it or don't. All the whining isn't going to change a thing. 99.999% of people don't know and don't give a damn about what the song inferred when it was written.

Wow. Well, you know what Maya Angelou said: "When people tell you who they are, believe them the first time."
10-11-2021 12:23 PM
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(10-11-2021 12:15 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  All the whining isn't going to change a thing.

I'm so tired of hearing this. If this was the answer after the shutdown UAB wouldn't have football today

The only way the people making the decisions know whether or not the consumers of the product like it is if we provide the feedback. "sit down and shut up" is such an asinine response and is truly unhelpful to the cause of helping UAB be the best it can be. And I am certainly not going to stop "whining" about UAB trying to make a tradition out of a song rooted in Birmingham's racist past
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Meanings can change over time.
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I would settle for not having to hear or see Speedy again at the games. That's the only part of the game day experience that gets on my nerves.
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Is there an email we can contact to send our opinions and suggestions? Complaining on a message board or Facebook group won’t do anything if it doesn’t show up in their inbox.
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(10-11-2021 12:56 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  Is there an email we can contact to send our opinions and suggestions? Complaining on a message board or Facebook group won’t do anything if it doesn’t show up in their inbox.

https://uabsports.com/staff-directory

I suspect that is not Mark Ingram's actual inbox listed but is probably good enough

I will say, as long as BlazerTalk has been around if no one in the Athletics department is keeping up with the discussions here we have a serious problem. Someone should absolutely be tied into all the various online communities they can find to get a good pulse on what people are saying. Nutjobs on a message board should not be the *only* source of input but they should at least know what's happening out in the world
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Yeah absolutely no way this song should be celebrated at our games with that history. Wow.

It's also just a boring, crappy song.
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