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(Today 12:49 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  LSU beat Alabama.

Alabama did not win the 2011 SEC.

They should not have been in the 2011 national title game.

This isn't up for debate,
Sherekhuck.

You are an idiot. Take the L and stfu.

That is your opinion. It's stupid and wrong as Bama did win thr Natty.

Keep digging though
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No.

Piece of sh*t.

At least we know now you are certainly no logician.
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(Today 12:53 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  No.

Piece of sh*t.

At least we know now you are certainly no logician.

Bwahahahaha. Keep going boy.

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(05-04-2021 10:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 12:21 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 05:07 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 03:12 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 02:39 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Just like BB having every conference rep'ed doesn't mean you get the best teams. It guarantees you don't. In the example you can come up with you could easily ID 20 teams better than the bottom four seeds listed.

I would rather them chose have the consensus top 14 and the final 2 spots given to the top two G5 teams unless they are already ranked in the top 14 and that makes those two spots at-large regardless of P or G.

I think the NCAA may be scared the Super League concept is gaining ground so they have to do something to (1) include more teams, and (2) feed the $$$ addiction.

Don't even care.

If you aren't the best of your subset (your conference), then you are not the best of the set (national championship).

No, you are talking about qualifying for participation but it does not describe a pool of the best teams.

How can you be the best if you are not even the best team in your own conference?

2011 National Champs Alabama
2011 SEC Champs LSU

Do yall even football?

So much for the “regular season matters” theory
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Hard to justify making the national title game to play a team that has beaten you and won your own conference.
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(Today 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Hard to justify making the national title game to play a team that has beaten you and won your own conference.

Just goes to show... "on any given Saturday..."
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(Today 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Hard to justify making the national title game to play a team that has beaten you and won your own conference.


And wasn’t it a 2 team “playoff” in 2011? Which makes it even more ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong Alabama was probably the best team. But according to the rules of the day they weren’t even the 2nd best team in the SEC. They did win the division. They say back and rested while LSU had to win the SEC championship game. And I think this happened again with Bama not winning the division and yet made the playoffs.
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(Today 02:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(Today 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Hard to justify making the national title game to play a team that has beaten you and won your own conference.


And wasn’t it a 2 team “playoff” in 2011? Which makes it even more ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong Alabama was probably the best team. But according to the rules of the day they weren’t even the 2nd best team in the SEC. They did win the division. They say back and rested while LSU had to win the SEC championship game. And I think this happened again with Bama not winning the division and yet made the playoffs.

The false premise is that the playoff is about determining a national champion. College football does not lend itself to a playoff. Never has.
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And in a pre-BCS era, Alabama would have no claim to the 2011 title.
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(Today 03:05 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  And in a pre-BCS era, Alabama would have no claim to the 2011 title.

Take the L boy
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(Today 03:03 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(Today 02:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(Today 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Hard to justify making the national title game to play a team that has beaten you and won your own conference.


And wasn’t it a 2 team “playoff” in 2011? Which makes it even more ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong Alabama was probably the best team. But according to the rules of the day they weren’t even the 2nd best team in the SEC. They did win the division. They say back and rested while LSU had to win the SEC championship game. And I think this happened again with Bama not winning the division and yet made the playoffs.

The false premise is that the playoff is about determining a national champion. College football does not lend itself to a playoff. Never has.

And you think the NCAA bb tourney winner is always "the best team"? Hardly.
Same for MLB, NFL, etc.
But in ALL other sports, the agreement is that the best 15% or more teams will compete in a post-season playoff to determine THE national champ.
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When there was a 16 team tournament for basketball UCLA won 10 championship in a row. After there were 64 teams in the tournament not many teams have won 2 or more championships.

Until expansion for a football tournament you can expect the same 4 teams to continue to win most of the games. After expansion to 12 teams you will see those 4 teams in the tournament fewer and fewer years. After 16 teams are in you will see years where none of those four are in the tournament. Give more teams opportunity and more teams will be competitive.

Then and only then will there be a national champion.

Eventually I expect there to be a 24 team tournament. That seems like the optimal number. I know 14 of 30 NFL teams make the playoff, so maybe a 40 team tournament for college is better, but only if they shorten the regular season and I don't imagine they will ever do that as long as home games are the major revenue source for most programs.
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(Today 05:57 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(Today 03:03 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(Today 02:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(Today 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Hard to justify making the national title game to play a team that has beaten you and won your own conference.


And wasn’t it a 2 team “playoff” in 2011? Which makes it even more ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong Alabama was probably the best team. But according to the rules of the day they weren’t even the 2nd best team in the SEC. They did win the division. They say back and rested while LSU had to win the SEC championship game. And I think this happened again with Bama not winning the division and yet made the playoffs.

The false premise is that the playoff is about determining a national champion. College football does not lend itself to a playoff. Never has.

And you think the NCAA bb tourney winner is always "the best team"? Hardly.
Same for MLB, NFL, etc.
But in ALL other sports, the agreement is that the best 15% or more teams will compete in a post-season playoff to determine THE national champ.

I dont care about bb in any form or the NFL at all. College football was special in that it could have multiple national champions with legitimate claims. Like you said, if it's not " the best team" what difference does it make other than to diminish a unique aspect of college football.

All things end I suppose. Minor league NFL pretending to be college football interests me less and less.
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