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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 06:41 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 01:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 11:56 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

As I, and others have tried to bring to your attention 100 times, the issue isn't with games against bad competition. White is a superstar in games against bad teams. The issue is how bad he is against good teams.

You are still too thick to get it.

Maybe this will help. Last night I scored 27 points with 4 three pointers in my local church league. Does anyone here think Penny should give me a call?

If coach P has a burning need to add someone who doesnt know how to evaluate QB's to the basketball squad, then sure, and I'll even write you a recommendation.

So now you dont like Brady because he cant bust a trey for team penny?

Some of you guys have proven you dont even know where the "box" is on a football field. You really do need to stop digging. Threads like these dont end well. Granted, they will provide timeless humor for some of us.

I see you have a hard time following conversations. But keep on spitting out your verbal vomit without actually adding anything of value to the conversation if that makes you feel better...
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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 01:54 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)Claw Wrote:  I think UCF will be the most talented D-line we face.

Gotta get to the title game for that to happen.

And I am not sure UCF will make it.
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(09-03-2019 12:51 PM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  https://youtu.be/2v-VkDiUm0Y Blah blah blah blah blah blah EABOD

I barely care which posters get attacked, including me. Admin under fire doesn't bother me overly much, either. As for Head Coaches....they are too busy doing their jobs to consult message boards or social media for 'valuable fan input'.

But our Tiger players do use social media. Insulting our Tiger players, who were put into their roles by our Head Coaches, is lame AF.

AUP: "Any personal attack on other posters, school administration, and/or student athletes is subject to immediate removal without notice at the discretion of mods and admins"

IT WAS A JOKE . WHAT DOES EABOD STAND FOR ?

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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 02:33 PM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 07:16 AM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 03:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 12:51 PM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  https://youtu.be/2v-VkDiUm0Y Blah blah blah blah blah blah EABOD

I barely care which posters get attacked, including me. Admin under fire doesn't bother me overly much, either. As for Head Coaches....they are too busy doing their jobs to consult message boards or social media for 'valuable fan input'.

But our Tiger players do use social media. Insulting our Tiger players, who were put into their roles by our Head Coaches, is lame AF.

AUP: "Any personal attack on other posters, school administration, and/or student athletes is subject to immediate removal without notice at the discretion of mods and admins"

IT WAS A JOKE . WHAT DOES EABOD STAND FOR ?

I GOOGLED IT , NICE SNOWTIGER , REAL CLASSY 07-coffee3

Why not Google ‘AF’ ...and then

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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 05:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 02:33 PM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 07:16 AM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 03:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 12:51 PM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  https://youtu.be/2v-VkDiUm0Y Blah blah blah blah blah blah EABOD

I barely care which posters get attacked, including me. Admin under fire doesn't bother me overly much, either. As for Head Coaches....they are too busy doing their jobs to consult message boards or social media for 'valuable fan input'.

But our Tiger players do use social media. Insulting our Tiger players, who were put into their roles by our Head Coaches, is lame AF.

AUP: "Any personal attack on other posters, school administration, and/or student athletes is subject to immediate removal without notice at the discretion of mods and admins"

IT WAS A JOKE . WHAT DOES EABOD STAND FOR ?

I GOOGLED IT , NICE SNOWTIGER , REAL CLASSY 07-coffee3

Why not Google ‘AF’ ...and then

S tay
T uned
F or
U pdates

speaking of....whatever happened to TigerAF? he hasn't posted in awhile
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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 05:45 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 05:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 02:33 PM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 07:16 AM)TIGER DENO Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 03:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I barely care which posters get attacked, including me. Admin under fire doesn't bother me overly much, either. As for Head Coaches....they are too busy doing their jobs to consult message boards or social media for 'valuable fan input'.

But our Tiger players do use social media. Insulting our Tiger players, who were put into their roles by our Head Coaches, is lame AF.

AUP: "Any personal attack on other posters, school administration, and/or student athletes is subject to immediate removal without notice at the discretion of mods and admins"

IT WAS A JOKE . WHAT DOES EABOD STAND FOR ?

I GOOGLED IT , NICE SNOWTIGER , REAL CLASSY 07-coffee3

Why not Google ‘AF’ ...and then

S tay
T uned
F or
U pdates

speaking of....whatever happened to TigerAF? he hasn't posted in awhile


O yeah. Kewl dude! He popped a bunch of guys in their mouths for me once upon a time. #whiteystrikesagain!
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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 01:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 12:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Again, OM will likely be the best line we see. (They run a 3-4).

Their front seven:
6'4 325
6'1 329
6'6 270
6'3 252
6'2 244
6'0 235
6'3 251

UH:
6'6 288
6'2 285
6'3 295
6'2 245
6'2 220
6'2 255
6'1 210

UC: (3-4)
6'5 258
6'3 275
6'1 290
6'4 248
5'11 220
6'3 238
6'3 235


Numbers aren't everything, but OM had a much bigger line than Memphis will see again.

I don't doubt that they are bigger than any other line we will face, but the bottom line, and one of the main reasons for breaking down every throw, was to show that White just can't hit receivers more than 10 yards downfield with any consistency, and Norvell doesn't trust him to even try.

I'm not sold on Ole Piss being any good in any way. They will probably win 3 games all season. Also, we still managed to run for 200 yards against them at 4.8 yards per carry with a long of over 15 yards. It makes no sense to say that our offensive line run blocks great, but can't pass block to save its life, all of a sudden when White shows up.

The only difference between the Ole Piss game this year and the game last year is that we would have scored twice as many points on 2 play 75 yard drives with Henderson scoring on a 72 yard touchdown.

I was just noting my belief (regardless of the other debates) the OM will be the best front 7 Memphis plays all year.

I also think that this OM team will end up being a five win team. I am glad we played them right out of the gate, I think the majority new offense (including coordinator) will gel as the season goes on. And their defense looks good.

One other note about being good run blocking vs. pass blocking--that is a real thing. They two completely different talents.

Granted, it's a reddit thread, but there are some good discussions about the difference between run and pass blocking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/27..._not_pass/

It could be that the OC and line coaches think the o-line needs focus and scheming more for the run and that the pass blocking will be more of "hope it's good enough" since the offense is predicated on a lot of quick passes.

And that may very well be, but like every year, even the non starters got a lot of playing time the year before, and there has never been a scenario where the offensive line is the best in D1 at run blocking and the worst at pass blocking.

What I do know is that when Ferguson and Lynch were our quarterbacks, our opponents had to defend a 50X50W field. Our opponents now really only have to defend a 15X30W field. That for sure is a big part of it.



It is a lot to ask of any receiver, tight end or running back to get open when space is so tightly contested.

You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Proof that you will say anything no matter how stupid instead of admitting that you are wrong, AND you continue to crap on our offensive line, receivers and tight ends, as usual. Norvell knows that White is slow as molasses, no threat to run, has no lateral movement and gets knocked over when a gust of wind hits him.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams. That is why when you mix the great games with the horrible games and add them together, the stats look a lot better than the reality.

So maybe Temple will look at film of the Southern and USA games and play a little soft in the first half. By the 2nd half, they will be doing what everyone has done to White since he got here. Play him the same way Ole Piss did in the first game...and no Henderson to bail him out.

The bottom line is that White is a superstar against bad teams and horrible against good teams and until he shows that he can throw the ball 15-25 yards accurately and on time; it is going to be tough sledding.
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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 07:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 01:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't doubt that they are bigger than any other line we will face, but the bottom line, and one of the main reasons for breaking down every throw, was to show that White just can't hit receivers more than 10 yards downfield with any consistency, and Norvell doesn't trust him to even try.

I'm not sold on Ole Piss being any good in any way. They will probably win 3 games all season. Also, we still managed to run for 200 yards against them at 4.8 yards per carry with a long of over 15 yards. It makes no sense to say that our offensive line run blocks great, but can't pass block to save its life, all of a sudden when White shows up.

The only difference between the Ole Piss game this year and the game last year is that we would have scored twice as many points on 2 play 75 yard drives with Henderson scoring on a 72 yard touchdown.

I was just noting my belief (regardless of the other debates) the OM will be the best front 7 Memphis plays all year.

I also think that this OM team will end up being a five win team. I am glad we played them right out of the gate, I think the majority new offense (including coordinator) will gel as the season goes on. And their defense looks good.

One other note about being good run blocking vs. pass blocking--that is a real thing. They two completely different talents.

Granted, it's a reddit thread, but there are some good discussions about the difference between run and pass blocking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/27..._not_pass/

It could be that the OC and line coaches think the o-line needs focus and scheming more for the run and that the pass blocking will be more of "hope it's good enough" since the offense is predicated on a lot of quick passes.

And that may very well be, but like every year, even the non starters got a lot of playing time the year before, and there has never been a scenario where the offensive line is the best in D1 at run blocking and the worst at pass blocking.

What I do know is that when Ferguson and Lynch were our quarterbacks, our opponents had to defend a 50X50W field. Our opponents now really only have to defend a 15X30W field. That for sure is a big part of it.



It is a lot to ask of any receiver, tight end or running back to get open when space is so tightly contested.

You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams.

October 13, 2018

Mackenzie Milton vs Memphis QBR - 42.5
Brady White vs UCF QBR - 72.8

Isnt it funny how all good quarterbacks tend to "suck" against good competition.
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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 01:54 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)Claw Wrote:  I think UCF will be the most talented D-line we face.

Gotta get to the title game for that to happen.

UCF lost its best d lineman last yr. Hayes is back.. logged 3 sacks last yr. Goode is a transfer, Hancock is a freshman, and Randy Charleton is a sophomore with10 tackles under his belt. How is UCF the most talented line?!?

Ole Miss is returning Benito who could have gone pro. Their leading tackle from the d line and a guy from the 2 deep last yr
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(09-10-2019 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I was just noting my belief (regardless of the other debates) the OM will be the best front 7 Memphis plays all year.

I also think that this OM team will end up being a five win team. I am glad we played them right out of the gate, I think the majority new offense (including coordinator) will gel as the season goes on. And their defense looks good.

One other note about being good run blocking vs. pass blocking--that is a real thing. They two completely different talents.

Granted, it's a reddit thread, but there are some good discussions about the difference between run and pass blocking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/27..._not_pass/

It could be that the OC and line coaches think the o-line needs focus and scheming more for the run and that the pass blocking will be more of "hope it's good enough" since the offense is predicated on a lot of quick passes.

And that may very well be, but like every year, even the non starters got a lot of playing time the year before, and there has never been a scenario where the offensive line is the best in D1 at run blocking and the worst at pass blocking.

What I do know is that when Ferguson and Lynch were our quarterbacks, our opponents had to defend a 50X50W field. Our opponents now really only have to defend a 15X30W field. That for sure is a big part of it.



It is a lot to ask of any receiver, tight end or running back to get open when space is so tightly contested.

You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams.

October 13, 2018

Mackenzie Milton vs Memphis QBR - 42.5
Brady White vs UCF QBR - 72.8

Isnt it funny how all good quarterbacks tend to "suck" against good competition.

Tigernole must be coaching you. You do realize that the lower negative is better than the higher negative, don't you? (of course you don't). You clowns are going out of your way to make yourselves look dumb. You are actually arguing against yourselves and for me.

Since the negative number thingy was too challenging for you to figure out; let's look at the box score.

Milton
17/29
296 yards
1 TD
0 INT

White
17/29
209 yards
0 TD
0 INT
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RE: Each Of Brady White's Throws
(09-10-2019 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I was just noting my belief (regardless of the other debates) the OM will be the best front 7 Memphis plays all year.

I also think that this OM team will end up being a five win team. I am glad we played them right out of the gate, I think the majority new offense (including coordinator) will gel as the season goes on. And their defense looks good.

One other note about being good run blocking vs. pass blocking--that is a real thing. They two completely different talents.

Granted, it's a reddit thread, but there are some good discussions about the difference between run and pass blocking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/27..._not_pass/

It could be that the OC and line coaches think the o-line needs focus and scheming more for the run and that the pass blocking will be more of "hope it's good enough" since the offense is predicated on a lot of quick passes.

And that may very well be, but like every year, even the non starters got a lot of playing time the year before, and there has never been a scenario where the offensive line is the best in D1 at run blocking and the worst at pass blocking.

What I do know is that when Ferguson and Lynch were our quarterbacks, our opponents had to defend a 50X50W field. Our opponents now really only have to defend a 15X30W field. That for sure is a big part of it.



It is a lot to ask of any receiver, tight end or running back to get open when space is so tightly contested.

You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams.

October 13, 2018

Mackenzie Milton vs Memphis QBR - 42.5
Brady White vs UCF QBR - 72.8

Isnt it funny how all good quarterbacks tend to "suck" against good competition.

Cherry picking is fun...
Here are the QBRs from their 2018 games against Navy
Milton - 93.2
White - 13.2

Funny is picking out just one game as evidence of being bad against all good teams.
QBR for the 2018 season
Milton - 80.8
White - 53.7
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(09-09-2019 03:30 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 11:56 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Still crapping on our wide receivers and offensive line. Everyone's fault except White's.

No. Last year we had a great OL and incredible RBs, which is why we ran far more than any other time under Coach Norvell. Our WR corps was young and untested. They had replaced probably our best and deepest.

This season, our OL is skilled but inexperienced. I think they could become the best we've had, but it might not be this season. Our WRs look much better this season. I think a lot of it is in practice playing against a defense that is much deeper and actually plays strong bump and run. Something they never saw in practice during the years under Coach Ball.

You can keep crapping on Brady White and making up crap, but that seems to be you standard procedure.

You are so messed up, so confused, that you don't even realize what you type.

Quote #1
since I don't want to appear as blaming our WRs, they are just young.

Quote #2
Our WRs look much better this season.

So, you have waffled going back and forth saying that the wide receivers can't get open, but the scheme sets them up for one on one matchups so they can break long ones, that they are young (5 out of 6 are seniors), but they look much better. You are constantly contradicting yourself. You are only consistent in one way. You constantly crap on the offensive line, receivers and tight ends.

Last year we had Coxie, Pollard, Magnifico, Dykes and Pop Williams. That is super solid, and they are ALL back, but somehow to you, they are young. You still won't admit that this is wrong and dumb on your part.
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(09-10-2019 09:47 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  And that may very well be, but like every year, even the non starters got a lot of playing time the year before, and there has never been a scenario where the offensive line is the best in D1 at run blocking and the worst at pass blocking.

What I do know is that when Ferguson and Lynch were our quarterbacks, our opponents had to defend a 50X50W field. Our opponents now really only have to defend a 15X30W field. That for sure is a big part of it.



It is a lot to ask of any receiver, tight end or running back to get open when space is so tightly contested.

You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams.

October 13, 2018

Mackenzie Milton vs Memphis QBR - 42.5
Brady White vs UCF QBR - 72.8

Isnt it funny how all good quarterbacks tend to "suck" against good competition.

Cherry picking is fun...
Here are the QBRs from their 2018 games against Navy
Milton - 93.2
White - 13.2

Funny is picking out just one game as evidence of being bad against all good teams.
QBR for the 2018 season
Milton - 80.8
White - 53.7

Even the cherry picking example was stupid. He was lazy and misread the quarterback ratings, and picked a game where Milton badly outperformed White, AND where we were shut out in the 2nd half to boot.

Tigernole is spinning so fast, he's so dizzy, he doesn't know where he is. Now this guy is trying to defend White by comparing him to Milton. Incredible.
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You are so messed up, so confused, that you don't even realize what you type.

Quote #1
since I don't want to appear as blaming our WRs, they are just young.

Quote #2
Our WRs look much better this season.

So, you have waffled going back and forth saying that the wide receivers can't get open, but the scheme sets them up for one on one matchups so they can break long ones, that they are young (5 out of 6 are seniors), but they look much better. You are constantly contradicting yourself. You are only consistent in one way. You constantly crap on the offensive line, receivers and tight ends.

Last year we had Coxie, Pollard, Magnifico, Dykes and Pop Williams. That is super solid, and they are ALL back, but somehow to you, they are young. You still won't admit that this is wrong and dumb on your part.
[/quote]

You are a special kind of stupid. Coxie was a first year starter. I never once complained about our TEs, other than how they are under utilized. Pop Williams didn't have a super solid season as a WR as he finished 5th in yards and 7th in avg per reception. However in 2016 and 17 combined, he had a TOTAL of 21 plays!! Coxie only had 21 plays in 2017. That is NOT returning experience in 2018. Funny you didn't mention Gibson (only had 6 catches) or Jones (only had 9) last season. So we had one great, one somewhat solid WR and untested, young WRs (even though you pointed out they are all SRs and one JR). I am NOT wrong, they were young as far as experience last year. Either you don't understand anything about football or just don't know the Tiger team at all.

Do you not understand that there is a difference from last year to this year??!!! You sure as hell don't act like it. Our WRs do look better THIS year than LAST year. Some of it is another year in the system, I think the biggest thing is playing a much better defense in practice. I was at several practices last year and a couple this year, it's a totally different experience. The defensive back are much more aggressive. It's pretty fun to watch. That is NOT a waffle on my views of our WRs. It's stating facts of both their lack of experience going into last season and their growth so far this year.

I am really beginning to realize you are just shoveling crap because you don't actually understand anything I say... or at least reply to it. You put your ignorant spin on it, so until you say something even remotely interesting or intelligent, I will let you have your hill that you are obviously willing to die upon.

Good luck being a Chicken Little complaining about the sky falling for the next two years as Brady will be our starter baring serious injury or another incredible recruit falling into our laps. I don't know what you have against Brady White personally, but your agenda is pathetic.
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(09-10-2019 09:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  And that may very well be, but like every year, even the non starters got a lot of playing time the year before, and there has never been a scenario where the offensive line is the best in D1 at run blocking and the worst at pass blocking.

What I do know is that when Ferguson and Lynch were our quarterbacks, our opponents had to defend a 50X50W field. Our opponents now really only have to defend a 15X30W field. That for sure is a big part of it.



It is a lot to ask of any receiver, tight end or running back to get open when space is so tightly contested.

You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams.

October 13, 2018

Mackenzie Milton vs Memphis QBR - 42.5
Brady White vs UCF QBR - 72.8

Isnt it funny how all good quarterbacks tend to "suck" against good competition.

Tigernole must be coaching you. You do realize that the lower negative is better than the higher negative, don't you? (of course you don't). You clowns are going out of your way to make yourselves look dumb. You are actually arguing against yourselves and for me.

Since the negative number thingy was too challenging for you to figure out; let's look at the box score.

Milton
17/29
296 yards
1 TD
0 INT

White
17/29
209 yards
0 TD
0 INT

Milton had 2 fumbles, and lost one, hence the horrid number.

God forbid the next time when BW fumbles, as it will probably cause you to pee your pants.

ps - have you learned where the "box" is yet?
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(09-10-2019 10:57 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 10:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

You are so messed up, so confused, that you don't even realize what you type.

Quote #1
since I don't want to appear as blaming our WRs, they are just young.

Quote #2
Our WRs look much better this season.

So, you have waffled going back and forth saying that the wide receivers can't get open, but the scheme sets them up for one on one matchups so they can break long ones, that they are young (5 out of 6 are seniors), but they look much better. You are constantly contradicting yourself. You are only consistent in one way. You constantly crap on the offensive line, receivers and tight ends.

Last year we had Coxie, Pollard, Magnifico, Dykes and Pop Williams. That is super solid, and they are ALL back, but somehow to you, they are young. You still won't admit that this is wrong and dumb on your part.

You are a special kind of stupid. Coxie was a first year starter. I never once complained about our TEs, other than how they are under utilized. Pop Williams didn't have a super solid season as a WR as he finished 5th in yards and 7th in avg per reception. However in 2016 and 17 combined, he had a TOTAL of 21 plays!! Coxie only had 21 plays in 2017. That is NOT returning experience in 2018. Funny you didn't mention Gibson (only had 6 catches) or Jones (only had 9) last season. So we had one great, one somewhat solid WR and untested, young WRs (even though you pointed out they are all SRs and one JR). I am NOT wrong, they were young as far as experience last year. Either you don't understand anything about football or just don't know the Tiger team at all.

Do you not understand that there is a difference from last year to this year??!!! You sure as hell don't act like it. Our WRs do look better THIS year than LAST year. Some of it is another year in the system, I think the biggest thing is playing a much better defense in practice. I was at several practices last year and a couple this year, it's a totally different experience. The defensive back are much more aggressive. It's pretty fun to watch. That is NOT a waffle on my views of our WRs. It's stating facts of both their lack of experience going into last season and their growth so far this year.

I am really beginning to realize you are just shoveling crap because you don't actually understand anything I say... or at least reply to it. You put your ignorant spin on it, so until you say something even remotely interesting or intelligent, I will let you have your hill that you are obviously willing to die upon.

Good luck being a Chicken Little complaining about the sky falling for the next two years as Brady will be our starter baring serious injury or another incredible recruit falling into our laps. I don't know what you have against Brady White personally, but your agenda is pathetic.
[/quote]

You don't understand anything you say.

The year before Ferguson was quarterback, Miller had 694 yards and Mayhue had 670 yards. A huge part of their success was because Ferguson was a great quarterback. How do you expect our wide receivers to show out when our quarterback is so slow that he needs 4 seconds to throw and can't throw on a line on time more than 15 yards? Do you think Miller would have blown up with White as the quarterback? Not a chance.

In 2017, we ran for 2,071 yards and 4.3 yards per carry. In 2018 we ran for 3,919 yards and 6.4 yards per carry and had a really good offensive line. White wasted the greatest group of rushers in our history, a really good offensive line and aside from Coxie, none of our receivers progressed. You can easily argue that Pollard, Magnifico and Dykes were wasted.

If you replace White with Ferguson last year we would have been 12-2 or 11-3 at worst instead of 8-6. If you replace Ferguson with White in 2017 we probably go 7-5 or 6-6 instead of 10-3. White is an average D1 quarterback. There is no shame in that, but it is insulting to posters here, our fans and our offensive line and receivers when you constantly crap on them.

All this debate is ridiculous. Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see what White is.

4/10 Arm strength
2/10 Mobility
3/10 Speed
2/10 Elusiveness
2/10 Ability to avoid a sack when hit
10/10 Brain (allegedly)
10/10 Ability to make running backs run long distances when he hands off the ball

Aside from the tangible stuff, the team, the coaches, the fans and the players had confidence that Lynch and Ferguson could win games for us, and both were leaders, especially Ferguson. Does anyone have anything close to that confidence; anything close to that feeling with White?

Tell me where I'm wrong with the list and the last paragraph. You can't.
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(09-11-2019 12:05 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 09:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 07:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You obviously didn't play OL. I did. It is MUCH easier to pick up run blocking that pass blocking. Run is attack, pass is react. Our OL is composed of one player that hadn't played a snap in his position #53, one that had played a snap for the Tigers #67, one returning starter and two that saw some playing time. Our OL will be very good by the Navy game. I have faith in them, but the ole miss game as a start to the season was a HUGE test for them. One they passed, but not with flying colors.

Every military school is an example of being the best at run blocking and bad at pass blocking.

If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep. But, I will let you in on an apparent secret... Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.
Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Every post you make is more stupid than the last.

Quote:If other teams are only defending a 15x30 field like you claim, then run fly patters every play and beat them deep.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and a tiny bit of common sense sees that good defenses are loading up near the line of scrimmage, jamming our receivers most of the time, and safeties are planted 10 yards away and not backpedalling.

Quote:Coach Norvell wants their defense in close, because when our playmakers get into space, they are usually gone. It's why last year we had such long runs, once you get past the box, there isn't a lot of defenders left.

Usually gone? You have been crying like a little baby about how none of our receivers can get open, BUT now you are saying that they are gone once they get past the box? Henderson and Pollard are gone. Our longest run was 15 yards against Ole Piss. Our only good pass plays came from passes down the field because our receivers were open.

Quote #1
Quote:As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Quote #2
Quote:Against every team outside of ole miss and maybe Houston, Tulane and Cincy (I would say USF but their coaching negates their talent), our offensive talent >>> their defensive talent. We want one on one matchups because winning those results in TDs. We don't want deep zones with people defending the whole field.

Also an explanation btw, of why White is a superstar against bad teams and not good at all against good teams.

October 13, 2018

Mackenzie Milton vs Memphis QBR - 42.5
Brady White vs UCF QBR - 72.8

Isnt it funny how all good quarterbacks tend to "suck" against good competition.

Tigernole must be coaching you. You do realize that the lower negative is better than the higher negative, don't you? (of course you don't). You clowns are going out of your way to make yourselves look dumb. You are actually arguing against yourselves and for me.

Since the negative number thingy was too challenging for you to figure out; let's look at the box score.

Milton
17/29
296 yards
1 TD
0 INT

White
17/29
209 yards
0 TD
0 INT

Milton had 2 fumbles, and lost one, hence the horrid number.

God forbid the next time when BW fumbles, as it will probably cause you to pee your pants.

ps - have you learned where the "box" is yet?

That's right QBR.
Quote:Total QBR system gave the Denver Broncos' Tim Tebow a higher rating than the Green Bay Packers' Aaron Rodgers in their respective Week 5 contests in 2011. Noting that Rodgers completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns in a win over the Atlanta Falcons, while Tebow completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown, and six rushes for 38 yards and a touchdown, in a loss to the San Diego Chargers.

Quote:Alex Smith of Kansas City Chiefs received an inexplicable QBR of 7.8, half as much as the equally-bad QBR of 16.1 for his counterpart Philip Rivers of the Los Angeles Chargers, even though Smith had a higher completion rate (16/21 vs. 20/40), a better average per completion (7.8 yds vs. 5.9), a far superior TD/int ratio (2-0 vs. 0-3), and won the game handily 24-10. For comparison, the RTG, 128.1 for Smith and 37.2 for Rivers, was by far a better metric of success.

Quote:ps - have you learned where the "box" is yet?

The box is where defenses play 8-9 players when White is quarterback and 6 or 7 when Ferguson and Lynch were quarterback. You also seem to be suggesting that Milton sucks against good competition and White is superior; which I think is impossible. So sad to see you and tigernole get so unhinged.
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(09-11-2019 12:19 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 10:57 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 10:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

You are so messed up, so confused, that you don't even realize what you type.

Quote #1
since I don't want to appear as blaming our WRs, they are just young.

Quote #2
Our WRs look much better this season.

So, you have waffled going back and forth saying that the wide receivers can't get open, but the scheme sets them up for one on one matchups so they can break long ones, that they are young (5 out of 6 are seniors), but they look much better. You are constantly contradicting yourself. You are only consistent in one way. You constantly crap on the offensive line, receivers and tight ends.

Last year we had Coxie, Pollard, Magnifico, Dykes and Pop Williams. That is super solid, and they are ALL back, but somehow to you, they are young. You still won't admit that this is wrong and dumb on your part.

You are a special kind of stupid. Coxie was a first year starter. I never once complained about our TEs, other than how they are under utilized. Pop Williams didn't have a super solid season as a WR as he finished 5th in yards and 7th in avg per reception. However in 2016 and 17 combined, he had a TOTAL of 21 plays!! Coxie only had 21 plays in 2017. That is NOT returning experience in 2018. Funny you didn't mention Gibson (only had 6 catches) or Jones (only had 9) last season. So we had one great, one somewhat solid WR and untested, young WRs (even though you pointed out they are all SRs and one JR). I am NOT wrong, they were young as far as experience last year. Either you don't understand anything about football or just don't know the Tiger team at all.

Do you not understand that there is a difference from last year to this year??!!! You sure as hell don't act like it. Our WRs do look better THIS year than LAST year. Some of it is another year in the system, I think the biggest thing is playing a much better defense in practice. I was at several practices last year and a couple this year, it's a totally different experience. The defensive back are much more aggressive. It's pretty fun to watch. That is NOT a waffle on my views of our WRs. It's stating facts of both their lack of experience going into last season and their growth so far this year.

I am really beginning to realize you are just shoveling crap because you don't actually understand anything I say... or at least reply to it. You put your ignorant spin on it, so until you say something even remotely interesting or intelligent, I will let you have your hill that you are obviously willing to die upon.

Good luck being a Chicken Little complaining about the sky falling for the next two years as Brady will be our starter baring serious injury or another incredible recruit falling into our laps. I don't know what you have against Brady White personally, but your agenda is pathetic.

You don't understand anything you say.

The year before Ferguson was quarterback, Miller had 694 yards and Mayhue had 670 yards. A huge part of their success was because Ferguson was a great quarterback. How do you expect our wide receivers to show out when our quarterback is so slow that he needs 4 seconds to throw and can't throw on a line on time more than 15 yards? Do you think Miller would have blown up with White as the quarterback? Not a chance.

In 2017, we ran for 2,071 yards and 4.3 yards per carry. In 2018 we ran for 3,919 yards and 6.4 yards per carry and had a really good offensive line. White wasted the greatest group of rushers in our history, a really good offensive line and aside from Coxie, none of our receivers progressed. You can easily argue that Pollard, Magnifico and Dykes were wasted.

If you replace White with Ferguson last year we would have been 12-2 or 11-3 at worst instead of 8-6. If you replace Ferguson with White in 2017 we probably go 7-5 or 6-6 instead of 10-3. White is an average D1 quarterback. There is no shame in that, but it is insulting to posters here, our fans and our offensive line and receivers when you constantly crap on them.

All this debate is ridiculous. Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see what White is.

4/10 Arm strength
2/10 Mobility
3/10 Speed
2/10 Elusiveness
2/10 Ability to avoid a sack when hit
10/10 Brain (allegedly)
10/10 Ability to make running backs run long distances when he hands off the ball

Aside from the tangible stuff, the team, the coaches, the fans and the players had confidence that Lynch and Ferguson could win games for us, and both were leaders, especially Ferguson. Does anyone have anything close to that confidence; anything close to that feeling with White?

Tell me where I'm wrong with the list and the last paragraph. You can't.
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How far does one have to throw the ball to get a 10/10 for arm strength
09-11-2019 07:27 AM
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