(09-08-2019 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 10:27 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 09:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 07:03 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 09:55 PM)Stammers Wrote:  It isn't complicated. If you have one player that can hit a baseball 400' to all fields and another that can only hit it 300' and only between the shortstop and the 2nd baseman, it is going to be exponentially more difficult for him to get a hit.

All things being equal, they are conceptually similar.

No. They aren't. You have an Elite level batter against an average batter.
Now taking it ONLY on hitting, then maybe they are the same. But, to use your ridiculous metaphor... baseball is more than just batting. Suppose you take that Elite level batter and he is a horrible fielder. His fielding percentage is below .500. Now, which is going to be a better fit for your team. An Elite level batter that might hit a HR every other game, might drive in a couple of runs, BUT will cost you a couple of runs every game as well with terrible defense. The average batter is a Golden Gloves fielder. Surrounded by a better team, are you wanting the defense or the offense.

See, what I don't understand is Stammers acts like Elite QBs grow on trees and have been a staple at Memphis. We lucked into Paxton and Riley was a bit of the same. Brady White will go down as a Top 5 QB in Memphis history.
The most important stat - through 15 regular season games and bowl games (I won't count the AAC Championship since Riley didn't make it his first year) Both QBs are 10-5. Brady has to go 11-3 to have the edge in two seasons of the most important stat and comparison there is... WINS!!!

I didn't need to read any of your post. I guess you don't know the meaning of all things being equal. Get back to me when you figure it out.

Get back to me when you do a throw by throw chart of the Southern Game.

All things AREN'T equal and YOU can't figure that out.

You probably shouldn't read any of my post, because I expose your fraud of an agenda. It's pathetic to be honest.

You are confused as usual. You still don't understand that all things being equal is conceptual, so it applies to my example, and so far it applies to White.

You are obviously confused about everything. Part of the problem is how badly he performs against good versus bad competition. If anything, the first 2 games illustrate that perfectly. Last year he threw for 5 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in our losses, 21 and 4 in our wins. This year 0 and 1 and 2 and 0. It is what it is.

Hopefully, he can turn things around.

Obviously you are just obtuse. Confusion doesn't have anything to do with it, because you have an agenda and will do anything to fit your stats to prove your side. You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

We became a primary run team last season early in the season, so Brady's numbers against tougher teams were skewed because we ran more often.

HE does not play in a bubble. Our WRs have to improve, the OL has to improve. Yet you simply refuse to acknowledge the culpability in his performance.
Paxton and Riley didn't have to worry about either of those. The ONE advantage Brady possibly has might be TEs. Although Paxton did throw to an NFL TE and a leading TE in our history, Riley didn't have that luxury. Hopefully our play calling will feature them more often.

You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

(09-08-2019 07:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 06:57 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Here’s what’s true:

Some teams, notably Ole Miss this year, and UCF and Wake Forest at the end of last year, stacked the box and dared us to beat them over the top and we couldn’t do it.

I dont recall Ole Miss stacking the box on us. I've gone back and reviewed thru the first quarter, and havent seen one instance of it yet.

And they didnt need to. On the play where they got the roughing the passer call, they only had 4 in the box. And one of them ran through untouched. Its at the 15:20 mark in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNeE3H62Mdg

Are you kidding? On our first play of the game they had 8 defenders within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. On the second play they had 9 defenders within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage; same thing on 3rd down.

Do yourself a favour and watch any game from Ferguson's two seasons or even Lynch's last two seasons. It is night and day how defenses scheme against us.

Read and weep

https://memphis.rivals.com/news/a-closer...s-southern

“White was 17 of 21 for 337 yards and 2 touchdowns. His NFL QB rating was 150.5. A rating of 158.3 is considered a perfect QB rating.”

(09-08-2019 09:56 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 10:27 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 09:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 07:03 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  No. They aren't. You have an Elite level batter against an average batter.
Now taking it ONLY on hitting, then maybe they are the same. But, to use your ridiculous metaphor... baseball is more than just batting. Suppose you take that Elite level batter and he is a horrible fielder. His fielding percentage is below .500. Now, which is going to be a better fit for your team. An Elite level batter that might hit a HR every other game, might drive in a couple of runs, BUT will cost you a couple of runs every game as well with terrible defense. The average batter is a Golden Gloves fielder. Surrounded by a better team, are you wanting the defense or the offense.

See, what I don't understand is Stammers acts like Elite QBs grow on trees and have been a staple at Memphis. We lucked into Paxton and Riley was a bit of the same. Brady White will go down as a Top 5 QB in Memphis history.
The most important stat - through 15 regular season games and bowl games (I won't count the AAC Championship since Riley didn't make it his first year) Both QBs are 10-5. Brady has to go 11-3 to have the edge in two seasons of the most important stat and comparison there is... WINS!!!

I didn't need to read any of your post. I guess you don't know the meaning of all things being equal. Get back to me when you figure it out.

Get back to me when you do a throw by throw chart of the Southern Game.

All things AREN'T equal and YOU can't figure that out.

You probably shouldn't read any of my post, because I expose your fraud of an agenda. It's pathetic to be honest.

You are confused as usual. You still don't understand that all things being equal is conceptual, so it applies to my example, and so far it applies to White.

You are obviously confused about everything. Part of the problem is how badly he performs against good versus bad competition. If anything, the first 2 games illustrate that perfectly. Last year he threw for 5 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in our losses, 21 and 4 in our wins. This year 0 and 1 and 2 and 0. It is what it is.

Hopefully, he can turn things around.

Obviously you are just obtuse. Confusion doesn't have anything to do with it, because you have an agenda and will do anything to fit your stats to prove your side. You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

We became a primary run team last season early in the season, so Brady's numbers against tougher teams were skewed because we ran more often.

HE does not play in a bubble. Our WRs have to improve, the OL has to improve. Yet you simply refuse to acknowledge the culpability in his performance.
Paxton and Riley didn't have to worry about either of those. The ONE advantage Brady possibly has might be TEs. Although Paxton did throw to an NFL TE and a leading TE in our history, Riley didn't have that luxury. Hopefully our play calling will feature them more often.

You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

Agenda? NOBODY has gone back and said that my play by play was inaccurate with the exception of a couple of posters saying that Dykes slowed down on his route. YOU are the one with an agenda, and you are more than a little bit thick.

Quote:You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

You refuse to acknowledge that Magnifico and Dykes are GREAT players who are now non factors, except when White lights it up against bad teams. You refuse to consider that White benefitted from having the greatest stable of running backs in our history last season, AND you ignore the fact that our wide receivers and tights ends were wide open the entire game against Ole Piss...and White missed them consistently.

Quote:You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

You wonder why that is because you are a little bit thick and have problems absorbing information and with reading comprehension. One of my main points has been how White has struggled in our losses, mostly against good competition, and played great in our wins...mostly against bad competition.

This year is no exception. If we didn't get an incredible performance from the defense we would have lost to a horrible Ole Piss team. We were shut out in the 2nd half. White didn't even make a throw on the second touchdown drive.

How anyone can refuse to criticize a quarterback that puts up 7 points, gets shut out in an entire half (again), and misses wide open receivers down field, is mind boggling.

Again, I hope he turns it around. So far it has been easy to predict how he is going to play.

(09-08-2019 10:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 09:56 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 10:27 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 09:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I didn't need to read any of your post. I guess you don't know the meaning of all things being equal. Get back to me when you figure it out.

Get back to me when you do a throw by throw chart of the Southern Game.

All things AREN'T equal and YOU can't figure that out.

You probably shouldn't read any of my post, because I expose your fraud of an agenda. It's pathetic to be honest.

You are confused as usual. You still don't understand that all things being equal is conceptual, so it applies to my example, and so far it applies to White.

You are obviously confused about everything. Part of the problem is how badly he performs against good versus bad competition. If anything, the first 2 games illustrate that perfectly. Last year he threw for 5 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in our losses, 21 and 4 in our wins. This year 0 and 1 and 2 and 0. It is what it is.

Hopefully, he can turn things around.

Obviously you are just obtuse. Confusion doesn't have anything to do with it, because you have an agenda and will do anything to fit your stats to prove your side. You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

We became a primary run team last season early in the season, so Brady's numbers against tougher teams were skewed because we ran more often.

HE does not play in a bubble. Our WRs have to improve, the OL has to improve. Yet you simply refuse to acknowledge the culpability in his performance.
Paxton and Riley didn't have to worry about either of those. The ONE advantage Brady possibly has might be TEs. Although Paxton did throw to an NFL TE and a leading TE in our history, Riley didn't have that luxury. Hopefully our play calling will feature them more often.

You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

Agenda? NOBODY has gone back and said that my play by play was inaccurate with the exception of a couple of posters saying that Dykes slowed down on his route. YOU are the one with an agenda, and you are more than a little bit thick.

Quote:You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

You refuse to acknowledge that Magnifico and Dykes are GREAT players who are now non factors, except when White lights it up against bad teams. You refuse to consider that White benefitted from having the greatest stable of running backs in our history last season, AND you ignore the fact that our wide receivers and tights ends were wide open the entire game against Ole Piss...and White missed them consistently.

Quote:You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

You wonder why that is because you are a little bit thick and have problems absorbing information and with reading comprehension. One of my main points has been how White has struggled in our losses, mostly against good competition, and played great in our wins...mostly against bad competition.

This year is no exception. If we didn't get an incredible performance from the defense we would have lost to a horrible Ole Piss team. We were shut out in the 2nd half. White didn't even make a throw on the second touchdown drive.

How anyone can refuse to criticize a quarterback that puts up 7 points, gets shut out in an entire half (again), and misses wide open receivers down field, is mind boggling.

Again, I hope he turns it around. So far it has been easy to predict how he is going to play.

I just said that we became a primary running attack last year. Once again, obtuse.

How anyone can refuse to criticize a quarterback that puts up 7 points, gets shut out in an entire half (again), and misses wide open receivers down field, is mind boggling.

Wait... Let's look at Riley's first season. Using your previous BS statement.

SE MO State 6 points in second half win
Temple 3 points in first half win
Tulane 11 points in second half win
Navy 14 points in second half loss.
Tulsa 6 points in second half loss
ole miss 7 points in first half loss
W Ky 14 points.

Not like Riley didn't struggle for halves. And he had 3 NFL WRs to throw to.
Are you forgetting the 2017 UCF game in Sept, just in case you want to make the second year argument? We scored 13 total points. For two quarters we were shut out and only scored the last 6 with no time left on the clock.

I looked and I never once saw a BS thread breaking down every throw. I never once saw you giving him subpar ratings on almost every category.

You can try and turn this on me all you wish, but you aren't merely criticizing Brady White. You haven't said he's just average, except to backtrack and try to cover yourself. I would probably give you those. So, don't act like I am not facing reality. You are posting crap like you have an agenda against him and that shows how pathetic you are acting.

Interesting comment on the tv show tonight. "Those who say that White cannot throw deep hasn't been watching the games."

(09-08-2019 09:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 07:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 06:57 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Here’s what’s true:

Some teams, notably Ole Miss this year, and UCF and Wake Forest at the end of last year, stacked the box and dared us to beat them over the top and we couldn’t do it.

I dont recall Ole Miss stacking the box on us. I've gone back and reviewed thru the first quarter, and havent seen one instance of it yet.

And they didnt need to. On the play where they got the roughing the passer call, they only had 4 in the box. And one of them ran through untouched. Its at the 15:20 mark in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNeE3H62Mdg

Are you kidding? On our first play of the game they had 8 defenders within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. On the second play they had 9 defenders within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage; same thing on 3rd down.

Do yourself a favour and watch any game from Ferguson's two seasons or even Lynch's last two seasons. It is night and day how defenses scheme against us.

They had 6-7 in the box on that play. (One was technically a bit further out than truly beingin the box) The 8th guy you are referring to is 10 yards away from the ball covering 3 wideouts. Thats not "stacking the box".

Everyone lives in a confused or dumb state except for Stammers.

(09-08-2019 11:39 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  this is the world we live in and these are the hands we're given

Damn you, got me again...

(09-06-2019 05:40 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:26 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 01:14 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 12:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 10:51 AM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  ha. amazing what having an AA WR can do for your team.

Amazing what the threat of actually being able to stretch the field can do. It stops the DBs from being able to cheat up and sell out on screen passes.

i dont think you understand how those plays work lol. They are literally planned when memphis has a 2 on 1 advantage on the outside... has nothing to do with the deep route.

I don't think you understand the premise of my statement... Screens are much more effective when there is a deep threat. Just like play action is much more effective when a football team can actually run. Without a deep threat teams are able to press in and sell out on short throws and screens.

nope..the premise is get the ball where there are less defenders. if the advantage on the inside, he hands off the ball. if it's outside, he gets it outside. they dont ONLY run the RPO. The RPO doesnt work ideally if defense is at the line pressing. it takes away the prime reason you run the play.

Yes, exactly my point... Without a deep threat teams like Ole Miss can press up on our receivers and basically stall our offense as designed...

(09-09-2019 10:11 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 05:40 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:26 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 01:14 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 12:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Amazing what the threat of actually being able to stretch the field can do. It stops the DBs from being able to cheat up and sell out on screen passes.

i dont think you understand how those plays work lol. They are literally planned when memphis has a 2 on 1 advantage on the outside... has nothing to do with the deep route.

I don't think you understand the premise of my statement... Screens are much more effective when there is a deep threat. Just like play action is much more effective when a football team can actually run. Without a deep threat teams are able to press in and sell out on short throws and screens.

nope..the premise is get the ball where there are less defenders. if the advantage on the inside, he hands off the ball. if it's outside, he gets it outside. they dont ONLY run the RPO. The RPO doesnt work ideally if defense is at the line pressing. it takes away the prime reason you run the play.

Yes, exactly my point... Without a deep threat teams like Ole Miss can press up on our receivers and basically stall our offense as designed...

But it is a process--the deep route can't get thrown if the receivers can't get separation and if the line can't hold their blocks.

Only if those 1st two things happen THEN it's on the QB to deliver.

As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Again, OM will likely be the best line we see. (They run a 3-4).

Their front seven:
6'4 325
6'1 329
6'6 270
6'3 252
6'2 244
6'0 235
6'3 251

UH:
6'6 288
6'2 285
6'3 295
6'2 245
6'2 220
6'2 255
6'1 210

UC: (3-4)
6'5 258
6'3 275
6'1 290
6'4 248
5'11 220
6'3 238
6'3 235


Numbers aren't everything, but OM had a much bigger line than Memphis will see again.

(09-08-2019 10:34 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 10:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 09:56 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 10:27 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Get back to me when you do a throw by throw chart of the Southern Game.

All things AREN'T equal and YOU can't figure that out.

You probably shouldn't read any of my post, because I expose your fraud of an agenda. It's pathetic to be honest.

You are confused as usual. You still don't understand that all things being equal is conceptual, so it applies to my example, and so far it applies to White.

You are obviously confused about everything. Part of the problem is how badly he performs against good versus bad competition. If anything, the first 2 games illustrate that perfectly. Last year he threw for 5 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in our losses, 21 and 4 in our wins. This year 0 and 1 and 2 and 0. It is what it is.

Hopefully, he can turn things around.

Obviously you are just obtuse. Confusion doesn't have anything to do with it, because you have an agenda and will do anything to fit your stats to prove your side. You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

We became a primary run team last season early in the season, so Brady's numbers against tougher teams were skewed because we ran more often.

HE does not play in a bubble. Our WRs have to improve, the OL has to improve. Yet you simply refuse to acknowledge the culpability in his performance.
Paxton and Riley didn't have to worry about either of those. The ONE advantage Brady possibly has might be TEs. Although Paxton did throw to an NFL TE and a leading TE in our history, Riley didn't have that luxury. Hopefully our play calling will feature them more often.

You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

Agenda? NOBODY has gone back and said that my play by play was inaccurate with the exception of a couple of posters saying that Dykes slowed down on his route. YOU are the one with an agenda, and you are more than a little bit thick.

Quote:You compare him to Riley and Paxton, but refuse to acknowledge that both of those QBs had much better WRs to work with than Brady.

You refuse to acknowledge that Magnifico and Dykes are GREAT players who are now non factors, except when White lights it up against bad teams. You refuse to consider that White benefitted from having the greatest stable of running backs in our history last season, AND you ignore the fact that our wide receivers and tights ends were wide open the entire game against Ole Piss...and White missed them consistently.

Quote:You make the statement that your attacks on Brady are to justify the WRs and OL.... but I sure didn't see you posting a throw by throw analysis of the Southern game?!! I wonder why that is

You wonder why that is because you are a little bit thick and have problems absorbing information and with reading comprehension. One of my main points has been how White has struggled in our losses, mostly against good competition, and played great in our wins...mostly against bad competition.

This year is no exception. If we didn't get an incredible performance from the defense we would have lost to a horrible Ole Piss team. We were shut out in the 2nd half. White didn't even make a throw on the second touchdown drive.

How anyone can refuse to criticize a quarterback that puts up 7 points, gets shut out in an entire half (again), and misses wide open receivers down field, is mind boggling.

Again, I hope he turns it around. So far it has been easy to predict how he is going to play.

I just said that we became a primary running attack last year. Once again, obtuse.

How anyone can refuse to criticize a quarterback that puts up 7 points, gets shut out in an entire half (again), and misses wide open receivers down field, is mind boggling.

Wait... Let's look at Riley's first season. Using your previous BS statement.

SE MO State 6 points in second half win
Temple 3 points in first half win
Tulane 11 points in second half win
Navy 14 points in second half loss.
Tulsa 6 points in second half loss
ole miss 7 points in first half loss
W Ky 14 points.

Not like Riley didn't struggle for halves. And he had 3 NFL WRs to throw to.
Are you forgetting the 2017 UCF game in Sept, just in case you want to make the second year argument? We scored 13 total points. For two quarters we were shut out and only scored the last 6 with no time left on the clock.

I looked and I never once saw a BS thread breaking down every throw. I never once saw you giving him subpar ratings on almost every category.

You can try and turn this on me all you wish, but you aren't merely criticizing Brady White. You haven't said he's just average, except to backtrack and try to cover yourself. I would probably give you those. So, don't act like I am not facing reality. You are posting crap like you have an agenda against him and that shows how pathetic you are acting.

Instead of quitting while you are way behind, you keep digging yourself more of a hole and embarrassing yourself. By your criteria, Coxie, Pollard, Dykes and Magnifico are NFL receivers.

Your comparison also shockingly makes no sense at all; mostly because we won 3 of the games you listed and we put up at least 24 points in all of them, and at least 28 points in 6 of the 7.

SE MO State 6 points in second half win
26-40, 295 yards, 3/2

Temple 3 points in first half win
17,26, 174 yards, 0/1

Tulane 11 points in second half win
21-23, 236 yards, 1/1

Navy 14 points in second half loss.
25-40, 333 yards, 2-0

Tulsa 6 points in second half loss
19-40, 349 yards, 3/2

ole miss 7 points in first half loss
30-46, 343 yards, 0/3

W Ky 14 points.
25-43, 372 yards, 4-1

Ferguson Totals (7 games)
163-269, 2,102 yards
7.81 yards per attempt
300.3 yards per game
60.1%
13 touchdowns
9 interceptions

White Totals (6 games)
93-177
1,137 yards
189.5 yards per game
52.5%
6.4 yards per attempt
5 touchdowns
5 interceptions

Apples To Apples Ferguson Losses (5 games)
118-215
1,728 yards
345.6 yards per game
54.9%
8.0 yards per attempt
12 touchdowns
7 interceptions

You truly have to be a psycho to bring up stuff like this.

One last thing...

Team Rushing
2016
487 carries
2,071 yards
4.3 yards per carry
23 touchdowns

2018
615 carries
3,919 yards
6.4 yards per carry
48 touchdowns

You harp on the 4 "NFL" receivers when 3 of them caught a total of 21 passes, but you ignore how much White benefited from our historically incredible ground game.

An above average quarterback would not have lost to Navy, Tulane or UCF.

(09-09-2019 11:56 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

As I, and others have tried to bring to your attention 100 times, the issue isn't with games against bad competition. White is a superstar in games against bad teams. The issue is how bad he is against good teams.

You are still too thick to get it.

(09-09-2019 12:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Again, OM will likely be the best line we see. (They run a 3-4).

Their front seven:
6'4 325
6'1 329
6'6 270
6'3 252
6'2 244
6'0 235
6'3 251

UH:
6'6 288
6'2 285
6'3 295
6'2 245
6'2 220
6'2 255
6'1 210

UC: (3-4)
6'5 258
6'3 275
6'1 290
6'4 248
5'11 220
6'3 238
6'3 235


Numbers aren't everything, but OM had a much bigger line than Memphis will see again.

I don't doubt that they are bigger than any other line we will face, but the bottom line, and one of the main reasons for breaking down every throw, was to show that White just can't hit receivers more than 10 yards downfield with any consistency, and Norvell doesn't trust him to even try.

I'm not sold on Ole Piss being any good in any way. They will probably win 3 games all season. Also, we still managed to run for 200 yards against them at 4.8 yards per carry with a long of over 15 yards. It makes no sense to say that our offensive line run blocks great, but can't pass block to save its life, all of a sudden when White shows up.

The only difference between the Ole Piss game this year and the game last year is that we would have scored twice as many points on 2 play 75 yard drives with Henderson scoring on a 72 yard touchdown.

(09-09-2019 01:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-09-2019 12:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Again, OM will likely be the best line we see. (They run a 3-4).

Their front seven:
6'4 325
6'1 329
6'6 270
6'3 252
6'2 244
6'0 235
6'3 251

UH:
6'6 288
6'2 285
6'3 295
6'2 245
6'2 220
6'2 255
6'1 210

UC: (3-4)
6'5 258
6'3 275
6'1 290
6'4 248
5'11 220
6'3 238
6'3 235


Numbers aren't everything, but OM had a much bigger line than Memphis will see again.

I don't doubt that they are bigger than any other line we will face, but the bottom line, and one of the main reasons for breaking down every throw, was to show that White just can't hit receivers more than 10 yards downfield with any consistency, and Norvell doesn't trust him to even try.

I'm not sold on Ole Piss being any good in any way. They will probably win 3 games all season. Also, we still managed to run for 200 yards against them at 4.8 yards per carry with a long of over 15 yards. It makes no sense to say that our offensive line run blocks great, but can't pass block to save its life, all of a sudden when White shows up.

The only difference between the Ole Piss game this year and the game last year is that we would have scored twice as many points on 2 play 75 yard drives with Henderson scoring on a 72 yard touchdown.

Then freakin' break down every throw from the Southern game!?! You won't do that because it makes this post totally stupid... much like the author.

I won't quote anymore of your wasted post. It's not that I am trying to say that Brady White is a great QB with a great arm. He isn't. He is a very good QB with a decent arm. You make it out like he is a horrible QB with a terrible arm, which just isn't the case.

You apparently don't know jack **** about this team. It's amazing that Pickwick broke down for you what our offense is and why Coach Norvell likes Brady White so much LAST YEAR and you still keep posting this ridiculous BS! Coach Norvell's system is getting playmakers the ball in space and don't make mistakes. That is what Brady White did better than Brady Davis, David Moore and Brady McBride. It's what he is doing so far better than Connor Adair. Why you can't accept that, I don't know. He also stated how Brady White's check at the line of scrimmage led to a lot of those long runs by Darrell Henderson, but you apparently forgot that too.

In 2016, Memphis lost to Tulsa, Navy, ole miss, South Florida and W KY. In 2018 Memphis lost to Navy, UCF, Missouri, Tulane, UCF and Wake Forest. Which of the above losses were 100% on the QB?

I'm done responding to you, not because I am too thick. It's because you don't know football. Your statements show an utter lack of understanding how Coach Norvell runs the team and what he wants from a QB regardless of who has told you that truth in the past. You make stupid comparisons and then try and hide from how you trash Brady White, but it's ok. I will let you have your delusions because regardless of what facts stare you in the face, you stick with your opinions.

(09-09-2019 02:19 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-09-2019 01:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-09-2019 12:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Again, OM will likely be the best line we see. (They run a 3-4).

Their front seven:
6'4 325
6'1 329
6'6 270
6'3 252
6'2 244
6'0 235
6'3 251

UH:
6'6 288
6'2 285
6'3 295
6'2 245
6'2 220
6'2 255
6'1 210

UC: (3-4)
6'5 258
6'3 275
6'1 290
6'4 248
5'11 220
6'3 238
6'3 235


Numbers aren't everything, but OM had a much bigger line than Memphis will see again.

I don't doubt that they are bigger than any other line we will face, but the bottom line, and one of the main reasons for breaking down every throw, was to show that White just can't hit receivers more than 10 yards downfield with any consistency, and Norvell doesn't trust him to even try.

I'm not sold on Ole Piss being any good in any way. They will probably win 3 games all season. Also, we still managed to run for 200 yards against them at 4.8 yards per carry with a long of over 15 yards. It makes no sense to say that our offensive line run blocks great, but can't pass block to save its life, all of a sudden when White shows up.

The only difference between the Ole Piss game this year and the game last year is that we would have scored twice as many points on 2 play 75 yard drives with Henderson scoring on a 72 yard touchdown.

Then freakin' break down every throw from the Southern game!?! You won't do that because it makes this post totally stupid... much like the author.

I won't quote anymore of your wasted post. It's not that I am trying to say that Brady White is a great QB with a great arm. He isn't. He is a very good QB with a decent arm. You make it out like he is a horrible QB with a terrible arm, which just isn't the case.

You apparently don't know jack **** about this team. It's amazing that Pickwick broke down for you what our offense is and why Coach Norvell likes Brady White so much LAST YEAR and you still keep posting this ridiculous BS! Coach Norvell's system is getting playmakers the ball in space and don't make mistakes. That is what Brady White did better than Brady Davis, David Moore and Brady McBride. It's what he is doing so far better than Connor Adair. Why you can't accept that, I don't know. He also stated how Brady White's check at the line of scrimmage led to a lot of those long runs by Darrell Henderson, but you apparently forgot that too.

In 2016, Memphis lost to Tulsa, Navy, ole miss, South Florida and W KY. In 2018 Memphis lost to Navy, UCF, Missouri, Tulane, UCF and Wake Forest. Which of the above losses were 100% on the QB?

I'm done responding to you, not because I am too thick. It's because you don't know football. Your statements show an utter lack of understanding how Coach Norvell runs the team and what he wants from a QB regardless of who has told you that truth in the past. You make stupid comparisons and then try and hide from how you trash Brady White, but it's ok. I will let you have your delusions because regardless of what facts stare you in the face, you stick with your opinions.

Quote:Then freakin' break down every throw from the Southern game!?! You won't do that because it makes this post totally stupid... much like the author.

A full week and posters trying to get it through your thick skull 100 times that the issue isn't against bad teams and you just refuse to get it; It's insane. I'm trying to have a rational debate with someone that doesn't understand this, doesn't even know that Coxie is a junior, and calls a group of wide receivers and tight ends with 5 of its top 6 receivers (Dykes, Magnifico, Jones, Williams, Gibson) young, when they are seniors.

Quote:Which of the above losses were 100% on the QB?

Is this some kind of joke? Now in order to make a point that makes sense to you, someone has to prove that the loss is 100% White's fault?

Quote:You apparently don't know jack **** about this team. It's amazing that Pickwick broke down for you what our offense is and why Coach Norvell likes Brady White so much LAST YEAR and you still keep posting this ridiculous BS!

Posters that we trust are saying that they don't understand why McBride isn't starting. Williams was quoted saying that White wasn't respected by his teammates last year, and he has played poorly in every single loss in his career; most of them winnable games.

But hey, keep on crying like a little baby claiming that our wide receivers can't get separation (proven wrong by my breakdown), our offensive line sucks, our receivers are young, and why White is the greatest handoffing quarterback in NCAA history; responsible for turning average backs like Henderson, Taylor and Pollard into superstars.

(09-09-2019 11:56 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Still crapping on our wide receivers and offensive line. Everyone's fault except White's.

(09-09-2019 02:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-09-2019 11:56 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  As evidenced by the game yesterday. More deep throws, more accuracy from our QB and a wide open game plan because our WRs were open and our line held blocks.

Still crapping on our wide receivers and offensive line. Everyone's fault except White's.

No. Last year we had a great OL and incredible RBs, which is why we ran far more than any other time under Coach Norvell. Our WR corps was young and untested. They had replaced probably our best and deepest.

This season, our OL is skilled but inexperienced. I think they could become the best we've had, but it might not be this season. Our WRs look much better this season. I think a lot of it is in practice playing against a defense that is much deeper and actually plays strong bump and run. Something they never saw in practice during the years under Coach Ball.

You can keep crapping on Brady White and making up crap, but that seems to be you standard procedure.