(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

What about all the other folks that were born here and are still poor? Oh yeah, how the f##k did I forget...white privilege.

(05-13-2015 01:10 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

What about all the other folks that were born here and are still poor? Oh yeah, how the f##k did I forget...white privilege.

Yup. You should've checked your privilege before logging on. Oppressive jerk.

(05-13-2015 01:10 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

What about all the other folks that were born here and are still poor? Oh yeah, how the f##k did I forget...white privilege.

Or maybe it's because you work harder and are smarter than everyone else.

(05-13-2015 12:52 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

"you didn't build that"

+2

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Great.

Then anyone and everyone born here is a lottery winner as well.

Problem solved, issue resolved! Awesome.

(05-13-2015 01:10 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

What about all the other folks that were born here and are still poor? Oh yeah, how the f##k did I forget...white privilege.

You lucky shitlord.

Obama has thrown down the gauntlet and identified the enemy.

Woohoo class warfare.

(05-13-2015 01:25 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Obama has thrown down the gauntlet and identified the enemy.

Woohoo class warfare.

no kidding.

Here will be my rant on this.

What a lot of people who are so hard core republican/democrat fail to realize, is that no matter who is in power, things have been getting worse for us for years.

The democrats want to say it is the big bad rich people to blame for class inequality. Well hey, guess what? Obama could have done whatever the hell he wanted his first term. He had a totally democratic government to vote his way!? So instead of him coming out and saying it has been a failure of the government as a whole, he wants to pin it on people who work hard and have lots of money. But hey, guess what else? It is way easier to blame those people and get people who will vote for you up in arms so that they hit the polling stations.

You blame your own government, and you won't get voted in, and you won't get paid. Racial tensions in this country have gotten worse and his campaign has always been a class warfare strategy. He can go f*ck himself for all I care. Unfortunately, most of the f*cktards in the GOP can't do a better job because they can't get their heads out of their own asses.

Until our government puts policies in place that actually works, our country will be continually f*cked.

(05-13-2015 01:25 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Obama has thrown down the gauntlet and identified the enemy.

Woohoo class warfare.

He knows he's at the end of his time. His legacy is one of lousy domestic policies and results and even worse the world is falling apart and on the brink of massive war. Meanwhile he is consumed with redistribution-ism at "home" and making a deal at all costs with rogue regime in Iran.

He's desperate to salvage something of his wasted two terms other than photo albums of innumerable golf outings and uber-expensive "family" vacations on the taxpayers dime. Gotta be a hell of an album though.

So he's finally resorting to being what he's always been, he just isn't interested in trying to cloak it any longer. Just come right out with it and see if he can create a lasting image or story as some kind of champion for the poor or something. Hoping he will be revered in an MLK kinda way, which of course, is just silly.

He's made the plight of the poor and minorities, especially Blacks, worse in his time on office. Just look at the numbers now on foodstamps, unemployed and looking to government for things as simple as a damn phone.

Truly a lost decade.

Race riots. Shrinking middle class. Stagnation. Millions upon millions have given up looking for a job... and this race hustler wnats to raise taxes and redistribute the wealth? How about lower taxes and job creation?

When the next downturn occurs...be it in the next 6 months or a year into Madame Clinton's Presidency...this country will come apart at the seems. People will take up arms... against these socialists.

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Odds of being born in the US > Odds of winning lottery

(05-13-2015 01:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Great.

Then anyone and everyone born here is a lottery winner as well.

Problem solved, issue resolved! Awesome.

I don't think Fit even realizes the softball he lobbed across the plate with that one.

(05-13-2015 02:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Odds of being born in the US > Odds of winning lottery

But that is just one part of the equation.

QuestionSocratic ( and I'm assuming ) was born an able bodied person with two parents who wen to public school .

Add those into the equation and you are likely to get odds similar to winning the lottery.

I don't think those of us who are successful truly appreciate how lucky we are to have been born in this country with the opportunities that we have.

Frankly, I'm quite surprised that more of you don't feel this way.

(05-13-2015 03:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 02:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Odds of being born in the US > Odds of winning lottery

But that is just one part of the equation.

QuestionSocratic ( and I'm assuming ) was born an able bodied person with two parents who wen to public school .

Add those into the equation and you are likely to get odds similar to winning the lottery.

I don't think those of us who are successful truly appreciate how lucky we are to have been born in this country with the opportunities that we have.

Frankly, I'm quite surprised that more of you don't feel this way.

feeling lucky to be born in the country does not mean that those who are wealthy did so because they are lucky.

My dad grew up poor as hell, literally had no running water until high school, neither of his parents graduated high school. He went to University of Miami on an ROTC scholarship and worked 40 hours a week while going to school. Graduated and went into the USAF where he had a 25 year career. After he got out he ran a construction company until he retired. My dad is doing very well for himself. It has nothing to do with him being "lucky" or "winning the lottery".

(05-13-2015 03:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 02:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Odds of being born in the US > Odds of winning lottery

But that is just one part of the equation.

QuestionSocratic ( and I'm assuming ) was born an able bodied person with two parents who wen to public school .

Add those into the equation and you are likely to get odds similar to winning the lottery.

I don't think those of us who are successful truly appreciate how lucky we are to have been born in this country with the opportunities that we have.

Frankly, I'm quite surprised that more of you don't feel this way.

Nope, not even remotely close. Of course you'd have to understand math to get that.

(05-13-2015 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:40 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:36 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-12-2015 11:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Demands Redistribution As Basic Tenet





Pull this one out and show it when people deny he is all about redistribution.

Never has there been a clearer statement of take from the ‘rich’, whatever can they do with all that money, and give to others, ‘to be fair’. The ‘rich’ are “society’s lottery winners” and not entitled to what they earned.

It’s never about bringing others up, but always about penalizing the successful to grab more for government.

I don't know of anyone who has said that Obama isn't about redistribution of wealth.

Every politician is for redistribution of wealth. Either from rich to poor or poor to rich.

Why would anyone act as if this is some sort of a surprise?

Wait, what? Please don't tell me you think that tax cuts are somehow taking from the poor and giving to the rich....

Well, how do Republicans usually pay for tax cuts when they decide to? By cutting social programs for the poor.

When's the last time a "social program" been cut? And name the program.

Obama is in the 1% maybe he should give up most of his money buy a 1,200 sq. ft. condo in the Chicago burbs when his term is up.

(05-13-2015 07:12 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Obama is in the 1% maybe he should give up most of his money buy a 1,200 sq. ft. condo in the Chicago burbs when his term is up.

Most Folks could only Dream of owning a 1200square foot condo in suburban Chicago. Gotta be Black privilege.

You didn't build that.

(05-13-2015 03:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 02:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-13-2015 09:27 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  My own story. I grew up in a working class neighborhood of South Buffalo. My father, who was born in Germany and immigrated at age 4, didn't graduate from grade school. My mother stayed at home and raised 4 kids.

I was the first of my family to graduate college, while working full time in a steel mill. Then got an MBA. Worked as a consultant and was hired to manage a company. After 20 years, took a bank loan to buy a business that I spent 25 years of 60-70 hour weeks to grow. Sold it when I turned 68.

I'm now quite wealthy.

Yeah, I won the lottery.

Yes you did. You were lucky enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. If that isn't winning the lottery, I don't know what is.

Odds of being born in the US > Odds of winning lottery

But that is just one part of the equation.

QuestionSocratic ( and I'm assuming ) was born an able bodied person with two parents who wen to public school .

Add those into the equation and you are likely to get odds similar to winning the lottery.

I don't think those of us who are successful truly appreciate how lucky we are to have been born in this country with the opportunities that we have.

Frankly, I'm quite surprised that more of you don't feel this way.

The odds of winning Powerball are roughly 1 in 175 million.

That's the same odds as being born in the United States.






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