(08-13-2013 07:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:39 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Your argument doesn't hold any water for two reason. One being something your buddy pointed out. More children are being born in the ghetto. Two, Mormons whites are the only group outside the Hispanic population that has a much higher birth rate.

Low birth rates are due to the shocking upsurge in the divorce rate, low marriage rate, both spouses seeking careers, sexual expression and the over glorification of birth control.

Just who is my buddy?

Man, you're a piece of work.

Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?

read the thread.

Quote:Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?

Our low birth rate is 100 percent due to the drop in white births. White deaths now outpace white births. Blacks, Hispanics and Asians all have a much higher birth rate. In fact, the white race is in decline in the US. Since we are still the majority, Blacks, Asians and Hispanics cannot pick up the slack.

It doesn't take an expert to figure that out.

This is what I hear when I read one of your posts

The truth only hurts people living a lie.

(08-13-2013 06:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  First off white culture and black culture aren't monolithic things. They aren't being replaced, but they will be influenced, just like it happened in every other generation of America and the whole world.

Hell, whatever is considered cool will become "white culture" eventually.

False. Like all all countries with a history, we have an established culture. We are entitled and obligated to preserve that. We have an assimilation process for a reason. You comments only demonstrate your justification in bypassing that process.

I haven't advocated bypassing assimilation, it's just that people have a false view of how assimilation occurs. It happens across generations, not the day they move here.

It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?

False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?


Again, define AMERICAN CULTURE

You have to demonstrate your ability to read, write, and speak English to become a citizen.



I don't know what his definition of American culture is, but both America and its culture are going to hell in a hand basket.

(08-13-2013 08:06 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  False. Like all all countries with a history, we have an established culture. We are entitled and obligated to preserve that. We have an assimilation process for a reason. You comments only demonstrate your justification in bypassing that process.

I haven't advocated bypassing assimilation, it's just that people have a false view of how assimilation occurs. It happens across generations, not the day they move here.

It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?

False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?


Again, define AMERICAN CULTURE

You have to demonstrate your ability to read, write, and speak English to become a citizen.



I don't know what his definition of American culture is, but both America and its culture are going to hell in a hand basket.

GD Right! I'm madder than heck about it!

(08-13-2013 07:27 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Have it your way.

Why don't you love America?

I thought that I did and then the ESPNers came and made me question my entire life.
I mean I've totally wasted my time serving. Hell, the couple of times that I've had a hand in sending illegals back have been all for naught.

Starting to think maybe ESPN knew what they were doing.

(08-13-2013 08:06 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  False. Like all all countries with a history, we have an established culture. We are entitled and obligated to preserve that. We have an assimilation process for a reason. You comments only demonstrate your justification in bypassing that process.

I haven't advocated bypassing assimilation, it's just that people have a false view of how assimilation occurs. It happens across generations, not the day they move here.

It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?

False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?


Again, define AMERICAN CULTURE

You have to demonstrate your ability to read, write, and speak English to become a citizen.



I don't know what his definition of American culture is, but both America and its culture are going to hell in a hand basket.

True but it is much more than that. You have to have a grasp of our history and American life.

(08-13-2013 08:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 08:06 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I haven't advocated bypassing assimilation, it's just that people have a false view of how assimilation occurs. It happens across generations, not the day they move here.

It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?

False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?


Again, define AMERICAN CULTURE

You have to demonstrate your ability to read, write, and speak English to become a citizen.



I don't know what his definition of American culture is, but both America and its culture are going to hell in a hand basket.

True but it is much more than that. You have to have a grasp of our history and American life.

Sure, I was just speaking to his incorrect post about language

(08-13-2013 08:55 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:27 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Have it your way.

Why don't you love America?

I thought that I did and then the ESPNers came and made me question my entire life.
I mean I've totally wasted my time serving. Hell, the couple of times that I've had a hand in sending illegals back have been all for naught.

Starting to think maybe ESPN knew what they were doing.

Is it ok when the illegals help my team win?

(08-13-2013 06:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's good to know that you are for open borders and do not believe we are a sovereign nation with borders.. At least I know what kind of person I am arguing with.

Never been for open borders actually. We've never even discussed open borders.

Oh, oh, oh, pick me, pick me. I'm for open borders. After all, I'm a good capitalist, and capitalism needs the free flow of labor and materials across national boundaries to be truly effective. I always figured you for a socialist, supporting government restrictions on key industrial inputs just like your buddy Obama. Plus, where exactly does Congress get the power to regulate immigration from anyhow?

I do believe we are a sovereign nation with borders though. How else could we have the Olympics?

(08-13-2013 09:03 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 08:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 08:06 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?

False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?


Again, define AMERICAN CULTURE

You have to demonstrate your ability to read, write, and speak English to become a citizen.



I don't know what his definition of American culture is, but both America and its culture are going to hell in a hand basket.

True but it is much more than that. You have to have a grasp of our history and American life.

Sure, I was just speaking to his incorrect post about language

Ah gotcha. Here is the actual process. It's actually pretty thorough.
http://www.immihelp.com/citizenship/

(08-13-2013 09:05 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  'Dixie, you're probably speaking to users that come from different cultural backgrounds, or perhaps have partners and children of different cultural backgrounds. It's likely why you're not connecting with the users right now; I bet none here whom have Hispanic, Asian, Arab, or other cultural connections think they're destroying the "American Culture." The fact is, they probably believe they're adding to its already amazing appeal.

As long as we teach our children to respect democracy, to love freedom, to be reliant on one's self, and to think critically, it doesn't matter if their parents are originally from Ireland, Azerbaijan, El Salvador, China, Afghanistan, a mix, or the United States. If they grow up to understand the underlying objective of this nation, I consider those children as American as you and I.

This is a prime example of someone missing the point. I am not talking about ethnic background. I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration. A society cannot withstand that. You cannot introduce outside cultures into host faster than the host can assimilate that culture.

The only race I am jumping on is my own for not holding up their end of the load. Whites are to blame for our low birth rates...and it has nothing to do with economy.

I am also jumping on mainly liberals who already know this deep down and celebrate it.

(08-13-2013 09:05 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  'Dixie, you're probably speaking to users that come from different cultural backgrounds, or perhaps have partners and children of different cultural backgrounds. It's likely why you're not connecting with the users right now; I bet none here whom have Hispanic, Asian, Arab, or other cultural connections think they're destroying the "American Culture." The fact is, they probably believe they're adding to its already amazing appeal.

As long as we teach our children to respect democracy, to love freedom, to be reliant on one's self, and to think critically, it doesn't matter if their parents are originally from Ireland, Azerbaijan, El Salvador, China, Afghanistan, a mix, or the United States. If they grow up to understand the underlying objective of this nation, I consider those children as American as you and I.

Are you speaking about legal or illegal immigration

(08-13-2013 09:15 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  This is a prime example of someone missing the point. I am not talking about ethnic background. I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration. A society cannot withstand that. You cannot introduce outside cultures into host faster than the host can assimilate that culture.

The only race I am jumping on is my own for not holding up their end of the load. Whites are to blame for our low birth rates...and it has nothing to do with economy.

I am also jumping on mainly liberals who already know this deep down and celebrate it.

That's a fair enough opinion. For the record, I'm for much stricter immigration laws. I do believe it's too easy to get into this country, and I do believe we're not doing enough to curb illegal immigration.

Well like I said, I lived in NM for a stint. My best friend is 100 percent Hispanic. He's also American and I can speak to him in English. He celebrates American traditions and cannot stand illegal immigration. I don't care what race people are as long as they adhere to our customs and our cultures. If not, why the hell did they come here?

Example: I don't want the American South, a place I love to become Los Angeles. A place I cannot stand. I would imagine many would agree with that.

That's my stance in a nutshell.

(08-13-2013 09:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration.

Could you show your work, because I don't think that is correct.

(08-13-2013 09:42 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration.

Could you show your work, because I don't think that is correct.

(08-13-2013 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:42 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration.

Could you show your work, because I don't think that is correct.

I skimmed the video. It doesn't seem to say anything like what you say it says.

(08-13-2013 10:12 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:42 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration.

Could you show your work, because I don't think that is correct.

I skimmed the video. It doesn't seem to say anything like what you say it says.

If you don't want to watch it then don't complain. I'll summarize. American birthrates are 1.6. The point of no return. The only thing keeping us from becoming a Muslim nation is illegal immigration. Never mind retaining our American culture

(08-13-2013 10:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:12 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:42 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am talking about foreign verses domestic. Our birth rate as whole is destroying our culture. More people are immigrating to the United States than being born on our. Most of that is due to illegal immigration.

Could you show your work, because I don't think that is correct.

I skimmed the video. It doesn't seem to say anything like what you say it says.

If you don't want to watch it then don't complain. I'll summarize. American birthrates are 1.6. The point of no return. The only thing keeping us from becoming a Muslim nation is illegal immigration. Never mind retaining our American culture

You hate brown people admit it

(08-13-2013 10:20 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:12 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 09:42 PM)jh Wrote:  Could you show your work, because I don't think that is correct.

I skimmed the video. It doesn't seem to say anything like what you say it says.

If you don't want to watch it then don't complain. I'll summarize. American birthrates are 1.6. The point of no return. The only thing keeping us from becoming a Muslim nation is illegal immigration. Never mind retaining our American culture

You hate brown people admit it

Your ability to debate is the worst I have ever seen. Your immediate tendency to make it personal and your constant racism displays your inability to construct a valid argument.

(08-13-2013 10:24 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:20 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:12 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

I skimmed the video. It doesn't seem to say anything like what you say it says.

If you don't want to watch it then don't complain. I'll summarize. American birthrates are 1.6. The point of no return. The only thing keeping us from becoming a Muslim nation is illegal immigration. Never mind retaining our American culture

You hate brown people admit it

Your ability to debate is the worst I have ever seen. Your immediate tendency to make it personal and your constant racism displays your inability to construct a valid argument.

Just admit it you hate brown or gay people

(08-13-2013 10:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 10:12 PM)jh Wrote:  I skimmed the video. It doesn't seem to say anything like what you say it says.

If you don't want to watch it then don't complain. I'll summarize. American birthrates are 1.6. The point of no return. The only thing keeping us from becoming a Muslim nation is illegal immigration. Never mind retaining our American culture

Most of the video is talking about Europe or what is going to happen in 2026. None of the little graphics said that immigrations was currently outpacing domestic births, with or without Hispanic immigrants.