RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 06:44 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:36 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: None of that is going to stop them from bringing pieces of their culture with them.
but it will curb self segregation and isolated subcultures. Just like Cameron in England pointed out.
It's good to know that you are for open borders and do not believe we are a sovereign nation with borders.. At least I know what kind of person I am arguing with.
Never been for open borders actually. We've never even discussed open borders.
Why not? You don't seem to see any problem with open borders and illegal immigrants crossing them by the thousands daily.
I've never said any of that. You just like to jump to your own conclusions.
But you don't have any problem with native born birth rates being much lower than illegal immigrants crossing our borders. You keep thinking English will save the day. It won't. It's not.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 06:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:44 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: but it will curb self segregation and isolated subcultures. Just like Cameron in England pointed out.
It's good to know that you are for open borders and do not believe we are a sovereign nation with borders.. At least I know what kind of person I am arguing with.
Never been for open borders actually. We've never even discussed open borders.
Why not? You don't seem to see any problem with open borders and illegal immigrants crossing them by the thousands daily.
I've never said any of that. You just like to jump to your own conclusions.
But you don't have any problem with native born birth rates being much lower than illegal immigrants crossing our borders. You keep thinking English will save the day. It won't. It's not.
I've never said anything about it actually. Just because I'm not worried doesn't mean that I support it.
I've only mentioned English or language maybe once in this thread.
Again, you've made your own conclusions. I'm just here to see what you come up with.
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2013 06:50 PM by nomad2u2001.)
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 05:55 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: But it's OK for white and black Americans to have their cultures replaced on a daily basis with outside influences from all over the planet. How do you justify this? You pretend whites and blacks don't have a culture.
First off white culture and black culture aren't monolithic things. They aren't being replaced, but they will be influenced, just like it happened in every other generation of America and the whole world.
Hell, whatever is considered cool will become "white culture" eventually.
False. Like all all countries with a history, we have an established culture. We are entitled and obligated to preserve that. We have an assimilation process for a reason. You comments only demonstrate your justification in bypassing that process.
I haven't advocated bypassing assimilation, it's just that people have a false view of how assimilation occurs. It happens across generations, not the day they move here.
It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?
False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 06:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:44 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Never been for open borders actually. We've never even discussed open borders.
Why not? You don't seem to see any problem with open borders and illegal immigrants crossing them by the thousands daily.
I've never said any of that. You just like to jump to your own conclusions.
But you don't have any problem with native born birth rates being much lower than illegal immigrants crossing our borders. You keep thinking English will save the day. It won't. It's not.
I've never said anything about it actually. Just because I'm not worried doesn't mean that I support it.
I've only mentioned English or language maybe once in this thread.
Again, you've made your own conclusions. I'm just here to see what you come up with.
Oh I see. It doesn't affect you so you aren't concerned.
That's fine then buddy. Our low birth rate is destroying our way of life. It's a combination of people being too focused on their careers, the breakdown of the family unit, greed and selfishness. While Linda and Ron are off being the worlds best metrosexual couple in Malibu - living the child free life - More foreign born people are replacing the native born family unit. Many of which are non English speaking or are here just for the benefits. Some are here to harm us, as seen with the 9/11 terrorists, Ft Hood and Boston Bombers etc.
Slowly we are watching our customs come under assault(war on Christmas, removal of our religious monuments) and having outside cultures being forced upon us(Muslim Foot baths installed in University bathrooms, and entire sections of our cities being completely run in Spanish, Sharia zones etc)
But don't worry. It won't affect you. You don't seem to care and aren't that tied to our traditions and way of life anyway.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 06:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: First off white culture and black culture aren't monolithic things. They aren't being replaced, but they will be influenced, just like it happened in every other generation of America and the whole world.
Hell, whatever is considered cool will become "white culture" eventually.
False. Like all all countries with a history, we have an established culture. We are entitled and obligated to preserve that. We have an assimilation process for a reason. You comments only demonstrate your justification in bypassing that process.
I haven't advocated bypassing assimilation, it's just that people have a false view of how assimilation occurs. It happens across generations, not the day they move here.
It is supposed to happen before we grant anyone citizenship. Why is this a hard concept?
False. There are no language tests for citizenship. Or culture tests. Or religion tests. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?
Again, define AMERICAN CULTURE
I already did. You just don't want to recognize it or acknowledge it exists. That's very typical on the left.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:44 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Why not? You don't seem to see any problem with open borders and illegal immigrants crossing them by the thousands daily.
I've never said any of that. You just like to jump to your own conclusions.
But you don't have any problem with native born birth rates being much lower than illegal immigrants crossing our borders. You keep thinking English will save the day. It won't. It's not.
I've never said anything about it actually. Just because I'm not worried doesn't mean that I support it.
I've only mentioned English or language maybe once in this thread.
Again, you've made your own conclusions. I'm just here to see what you come up with.
Oh I see. It doesn't affect you so you aren't concerned.
That's fine then buddy. Our low birth rate is destroying our way of life. It's a combination of people being too focused on their careers, the breakdown of the family unit, greed and selfishness. While Linda and Ron are off being the worlds best metrosexual couple in Malibu - living the child free life - More foreign born people are replacing the native born family unit. Many of which are non English speaking or are here just for the benefits. Some are here to harm us, as seen with the 9/11 terrorists, Ft Hood and Boston Bombers etc.
Slowly we are watching our customs come under assault(war on Christmas, removal of our religious monuments) and having outside cultures being forced upon us(Muslim Foot baths installed in University bathrooms, and entire sections of our cities being completely run in Spanish, Sharia zones etc)
But don't worry. It won't affect you. You don't seem to care and aren't that tied to our traditions and way of life anyway.
Have it your way.
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2013 07:20 PM by nomad2u2001.)
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 06:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:
(08-13-2013 05:13 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 05:08 PM)Smaug Wrote:
(08-13-2013 05:06 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 04:52 PM)Smaug Wrote: And all the while some xenophobic folks like yourself were convinced they'd destroy the country, and worked hard to make them miserable for a long time.
Yeah, well it turns out I no longer care where you think my political leanings are.
Okla thinks you're liberal, JF thinks you're black. You're just an enigma around these parts.
Robert and RWT call me a *********.
Go figure.
You are a liberal. You are part of the same liberal group that labels themselves "moderate" and votes for Obama twice.
I didn't vote for him once. Nice attempt at pigeonholing, though.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 04:18 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: So what? We have a birth rate of 1.3. Far too small to maintain a culture.
Little Okie, is it even remotely possible that people are being more cautious about having a large family in these economically fragile times? Or, is it possible that there could be other reasons? Fertility has been trending down overall for years in the U.S. so this isn't a sudden phenomenon.
You are making leaps to ascribe to people motives (that you believe) for our falling birthrate. Here's a clue - the same is happening throughout the western world. See Europe.
But 'maintaining the culture' as a reason to argue and assign motives and labels to anybody who doesn't agree with you or calls you out on your gigantic leaps of illogic is silly.
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2013 07:28 PM by MileHighBronco.)
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:44 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: I've never said any of that. You just like to jump to your own conclusions.
But you don't have any problem with native born birth rates being much lower than illegal immigrants crossing our borders. You keep thinking English will save the day. It won't. It's not.
I've never said anything about it actually. Just because I'm not worried doesn't mean that I support it.
I've only mentioned English or language maybe once in this thread.
Again, you've made your own conclusions. I'm just here to see what you come up with.
Oh I see. It doesn't affect you so you aren't concerned.
That's fine then buddy. Our low birth rate is destroying our way of life. It's a combination of people being too focused on their careers, the breakdown of the family unit, greed and selfishness. While Linda and Ron are off being the worlds best metrosexual couple in Malibu - living the child free life - More foreign born people are replacing the native born family unit. Many of which are non English speaking or are here just for the benefits. Some are here to harm us, as seen with the 9/11 terrorists, Ft Hood and Boston Bombers etc.
Slowly we are watching our customs come under assault(war on Christmas, removal of our religious monuments) and having outside cultures being forced upon us(Muslim Foot baths installed in University bathrooms, and entire sections of our cities being completely run in Spanish, Sharia zones etc)
But don't worry. It won't affect you. You don't seem to care and aren't that tied to our traditions and way of life anyway.
Have it your way.
Maybe it will give you something to think about. There are those who tear it down and those who allow it to happen. Then there are those who try to protect it. I know which category I fit in to. Do you?
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:28 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: But you don't have any problem with native born birth rates being much lower than illegal immigrants crossing our borders. You keep thinking English will save the day. It won't. It's not.
I've never said anything about it actually. Just because I'm not worried doesn't mean that I support it.
I've only mentioned English or language maybe once in this thread.
Again, you've made your own conclusions. I'm just here to see what you come up with.
Oh I see. It doesn't affect you so you aren't concerned.
That's fine then buddy. Our low birth rate is destroying our way of life. It's a combination of people being too focused on their careers, the breakdown of the family unit, greed and selfishness. While Linda and Ron are off being the worlds best metrosexual couple in Malibu - living the child free life - More foreign born people are replacing the native born family unit. Many of which are non English speaking or are here just for the benefits. Some are here to harm us, as seen with the 9/11 terrorists, Ft Hood and Boston Bombers etc.
Slowly we are watching our customs come under assault(war on Christmas, removal of our religious monuments) and having outside cultures being forced upon us(Muslim Foot baths installed in University bathrooms, and entire sections of our cities being completely run in Spanish, Sharia zones etc)
But don't worry. It won't affect you. You don't seem to care and aren't that tied to our traditions and way of life anyway.
Have it your way.
Maybe it will give you something to think about. There are those who tear it down and those who allow it to happen. Then there are those who try to protect it. I know which category I fit in to. Do you?
I'm not even sure what IT is. Is it baby makin' because I'd sure like to give that practice today.
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2013 07:31 PM by nomad2u2001.)
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:27 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:
(08-13-2013 04:18 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: So what? We have a birth rate of 1.3. Far too small to maintain a culture.
Little Okie, is it even remotely possible that people are being more cautious about having a large family in these economically fragile times? Or, is it possible that there could be other reasons? Fertility has been trending down overall for years in the U.S. so this isn't a sudden phenomenon.
You are making leaps to ascribe to people motives (that you believe) for our falling birthrate. Here's a clue - the same is happening throughout the western world. See Europe.
But 'maintaining the culture' as a reason to argue and assign motives and labels to anybody who doesn't agree with you or calls you out on your gigantic leaps of illogic is silly.
That is our birth rate. That number cannot maintain a culture. Your argument doesn't hold any water for two reason. One being something your buddy pointed out. More children are being born in the ghetto. Two, Mormons whites are the only group outside the Hispanic population that has a much higher birth rate.
Low birth rates are due to the shocking upsurge in the divorce rate, low marriage rate, both spouses seeking careers, sexual expression and the over glorification of birth control.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:29 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:28 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 06:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: I've never said anything about it actually. Just because I'm not worried doesn't mean that I support it.
I've only mentioned English or language maybe once in this thread.
Again, you've made your own conclusions. I'm just here to see what you come up with.
Oh I see. It doesn't affect you so you aren't concerned.
That's fine then buddy. Our low birth rate is destroying our way of life. It's a combination of people being too focused on their careers, the breakdown of the family unit, greed and selfishness. While Linda and Ron are off being the worlds best metrosexual couple in Malibu - living the child free life - More foreign born people are replacing the native born family unit. Many of which are non English speaking or are here just for the benefits. Some are here to harm us, as seen with the 9/11 terrorists, Ft Hood and Boston Bombers etc.
Slowly we are watching our customs come under assault(war on Christmas, removal of our religious monuments) and having outside cultures being forced upon us(Muslim Foot baths installed in University bathrooms, and entire sections of our cities being completely run in Spanish, Sharia zones etc)
But don't worry. It won't affect you. You don't seem to care and aren't that tied to our traditions and way of life anyway.
Have it your way.
Maybe it will give you something to think about. There are those who tear it down and those who allow it to happen. Then there are those who try to protect it. I know which category I fit in to. Do you?
I'm not even sure what IT is. Is it baby makin' because I'd sure like to give that practice today.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:29 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:28 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Oh I see. It doesn't affect you so you aren't concerned.
That's fine then buddy. Our low birth rate is destroying our way of life. It's a combination of people being too focused on their careers, the breakdown of the family unit, greed and selfishness. While Linda and Ron are off being the worlds best metrosexual couple in Malibu - living the child free life - More foreign born people are replacing the native born family unit. Many of which are non English speaking or are here just for the benefits. Some are here to harm us, as seen with the 9/11 terrorists, Ft Hood and Boston Bombers etc.
Slowly we are watching our customs come under assault(war on Christmas, removal of our religious monuments) and having outside cultures being forced upon us(Muslim Foot baths installed in University bathrooms, and entire sections of our cities being completely run in Spanish, Sharia zones etc)
But don't worry. It won't affect you. You don't seem to care and aren't that tied to our traditions and way of life anyway.
Have it your way.
Maybe it will give you something to think about. There are those who tear it down and those who allow it to happen. Then there are those who try to protect it. I know which category I fit in to. Do you?
I'm not even sure what IT is. Is it baby makin' because I'd sure like to give that practice today.
The cause, not the effect.
Well since you've already come up with the conclusion, I'm interested in what you've come up with.
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Your argument doesn't hold any water for two reason. One being something your buddy pointed out. More children are being born in the ghetto. Two, Mormons whites are the only group outside the Hispanic population that has a much higher birth rate.
Low birth rates are due to the shocking upsurge in the divorce rate, low marriage rate, both spouses seeking careers, sexual expression and the over glorification of birth control.
Just who is my buddy?
Man, you're a piece of work.
Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:39 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Your argument doesn't hold any water for two reason. One being something your buddy pointed out. More children are being born in the ghetto. Two, Mormons whites are the only group outside the Hispanic population that has a much higher birth rate.
Low birth rates are due to the shocking upsurge in the divorce rate, low marriage rate, both spouses seeking careers, sexual expression and the over glorification of birth control.
Just who is my buddy?
Man, you're a piece of work.
Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?
read the thread.
Quote:Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?
Our low birth rate is 100 percent due to the drop in white births. White deaths now outpace white births. Blacks, Hispanics and Asians all have a much higher birth rate. In fact, the white race is in decline in the US. Since we are still the majority, Blacks, Asians and Hispanics cannot pick up the slack.
It doesn't take an expert to figure that out.
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2013 07:47 PM by oklalittledixie.)
RE: The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
(08-13-2013 07:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:39 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:
(08-13-2013 07:33 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Your argument doesn't hold any water for two reason. One being something your buddy pointed out. More children are being born in the ghetto. Two, Mormons whites are the only group outside the Hispanic population that has a much higher birth rate.
Low birth rates are due to the shocking upsurge in the divorce rate, low marriage rate, both spouses seeking careers, sexual expression and the over glorification of birth control.
Just who is my buddy?
Man, you're a piece of work.
Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?
read the thread.
Quote:Where/when/how did you become an expert on the demographic changes and their causes?
Our low birth rate is 100 percent due to the drop in white births. White deaths now outpace white births. Blacks, Hispanics and Asians all have a much higher birth rate. In fact, the white race is in decline in the US. Since we are still the majority, Blacks, Asians and Hispanics cannot pick up the slack.
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The proudly Child free and how they will bring down Western Civilization
