(12-31-2011 04:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-30-2011 11:16 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-30-2011 10:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-30-2011 10:23 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  It's clear that you don't want to discuss the issue and that you'll use whatever excuse you can to slink away. If you're really that thin-skinned, then you're wasting my time.

If all you're going to do is behave like a jerk and add nothing of value to the conversation, then I don't want to discuss any issue with you. Nor should anyone else. Sounds like we both have better uses for our time than for you to engage in, and me to put up with, your childish antics. When you grow up, perhaps we can have further discussions.

Let me know when you stop being a coward.

Do you have anything besides name-calling?

No, because you totally intimidate DUM2001Grad. That is why he puts up such a show of rude insults to your posts. He cannot win any serious debate/discussion with you....or most people.

He is complete chode and tool.

(01-03-2012 06:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 05:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 05:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 03:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 01:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  We should all be working together to get more people to vote, period! Have voting on the weekends or make the second Tuesday a holiday, allow more/better/easier absentee processes, vote by mail, on-line, etc. We can make things better without sacrifcing voter integrity.

Why? I'm not at all certain that having more people voting is all that great an objective. Having better informed people voting is one objective I'd put higher on the priority scale. I don't really see the benefit of having a bunch of clueless people vote. And the ones we have voting now are clueless enough.

Let me know when you get the iron clad test done to prove who is smart enough and who isn't

Way to misinterpret completely what I said. I don't think we should have a test. I really think we should reduce the barriers, and that's why I've said there ought to be an ID card that works for voting purposes that's free to anyone who can't afford to pay for one. What I'm saying is that we should do a better job of educating voters.

Fair enough.

That's a deal.

(01-03-2012 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  4 years to get an ID.
1 day to vote.

It is exceedingly far, far easier to get an ID than it is to vote.

STOP, STOP, STOP the BS about ID's disenfranchising people. IT SIMPLY ISN'T FREAKING TRUE.

Even if we accept your outlandish statement that anyone can obtain the ID, how can you possibly ignore the cases where the voter has to spend money to get it? That's a poll tax which all should be against.

(01-04-2012 10:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-03-2012 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  4 years to get an ID.
1 day to vote.

It is exceedingly far, far easier to get an ID than it is to vote.

STOP, STOP, STOP the BS about ID's disenfranchising people. IT SIMPLY ISN'T FREAKING TRUE.

Even if we accept your outlandish statement that anyone can obtain the ID, how can you possibly ignore the cases where the voter has to spend money to get it? That's a poll tax which all should be against.

If the government makes the ID cards that would mean they pay for them, right? Where did they get the money, charity?

China I believe.

But where does the money come from now to hire poll workers, buy machines, print ballots, tabulate results, etc.

(01-04-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  China I believe.

But where does the money come from now to hire poll workers, buy machines, print ballots, tabulate results, etc.

I would respond but you would just give me negative rep points for having a different opinion...child.

(01-04-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  China I believe.

But where does the money come from now to hire poll workers, buy machines, print ballots, tabulate results, etc.

And who has to pay back China? Not the government, they don't earn money. It all comes down which pocket do you want me pull the money from.

(01-04-2012 04:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  China I believe.

But where does the money come from now to hire poll workers, buy machines, print ballots, tabulate results, etc.

And who has to pay back China? Not the government, they don't earn money. It all comes down which pocket do you want me pull the money from.

I'll drop it out of my prison pocket straight into their hands...

(01-04-2012 04:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  China I believe.

But where does the money come from now to hire poll workers, buy machines, print ballots, tabulate results, etc.

And who has to pay back China? Not the government, they don't earn money. It all comes down which pocket do you want me pull the money from.

Other than a subtle advocation of a poll tax, I fail to see what point you are trying to make.

(01-04-2012 03:54 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  China I believe.

But where does the money come from now to hire poll workers, buy machines, print ballots, tabulate results, etc.

I would respond but you would just give me negative rep points for having a different opinion...child.

It wasn't for a different opinion. You claimed without substantiation that the democrats are stealing elections through the votes of illegal immigrants. Give me a source and I'll adjust the rating.

Not sure where I stand on this:

-I'm for 100% of all voters being identified as who they claim to be, voting once and no more.
-I'm 100% against requiring state (especially federal) ID to anyone who wants to exercise their voting privileges.

(01-04-2012 08:54 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Not sure where I stand on this:

-I'm for 100% of all voters being identified as who they claim to be, voting once and no more.
-I'm 100% against requiring state (especially federal) ID to anyone who wants to exercise their voting privileges.

So how exactly do you identify them?

(01-04-2012 09:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 08:54 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Not sure where I stand on this:

-I'm for 100% of all voters being identified as who they claim to be, voting once and no more.
-I'm 100% against requiring state (especially federal) ID to anyone who wants to exercise their voting privileges.

So how exactly do you identify them?

If I knew I'd have included that. I have no idea.

Dems been stealing and frauding elections for a long, long time...