Quote:Edward Norton rejects "American exceptionalism" and praises China as more eco-friendly than the West:

NORTON: China is on its way to being the first, petro-zero economy. They are going to be the first electro-superpower.

TED DANSON: Which we could have been. And now we're gonna have to buy it from them when [Trump] goes away and we come to our senses. We won't have that industry like China does.

NORTON: No. And by the way, it's both sides of the aisle. In the state of California, we have now the most regressive policy toward residential solar, distributed solar collection and storage... even under Gavin Newsom.

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We have this enduring narrative of American exceptionalism, like of America's "alpha," of America's cultural superiority. And the question is, and I don't think people fully grasp the degree to which we're going to ghettoize ourselves as an energy state, in terms of education, in terms of health. We're not anywhere near the top, of what other people are experiencing. And if we embrace this idea of pride in regression, you where is that where is that going to take us? It's not going to take us into a place that we're happy about for our kids.

Delusional. Move there Hulk.

(06-26-2026 03:25 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Delusional. Move there Hulk.

Yeah. And gag on the air.

China is one of the most polluted countries on the planet.

I just listened and I didn't hear Norton praise China or reject American exceptionalism.

In fact, he notes this country should be a world leader related to creating jobs related to the environment. He says Texas and Florida are doing better with solar than California.

Who?

A. Ted world will end in 12 years Danson. Said something similar circa 1988 or so. Didn't happen of course, but we'll just make up another idiotic outrageous claim and move the dates and goalposts, yet again.

B. How would you produce an "Electro-superpower"?!?
Well, of course you won't. But if you were to try and you are china?

You'd continue to build coal fired power stations at the pace of one a week.

Gotta get that power from somewhere and it ain' gonna be windmills circa 1200's or the big ass mirrors that don't work at all if it's cloudy out, and cook all the birds if it is.

Solid plan.

The type of anti-Americanism shared by Edward Norton isn’t news. It’s been a part of national politics going at least as far back as the 1960s, and a very big part starting with Obama. So, whatever.

But what is honestly wild is the idea of praising PRC as some sort of ethical/responsible steward of its physical environment and resources. Or at least, more so than the United States. Wow!! Norton must be a very special kind of stupid if he truly believes that.

Anyone who bagged Courtney Love for three years loses all credibility rejecting "American exceptionalism."

(06-26-2026 03:20 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Edward Norton rejects "American exceptionalism" and praises China as more eco-friendly than the West:

NORTON: China is on its way to being the first, petro-zero economy. They are going to be the first electro-superpower.

TED DANSON: Which we could have been. And now we're gonna have to buy it from them when [Trump] goes away and we come to our senses. We won't have that industry like China does.

NORTON: No. And by the way, it's both sides of the aisle. In the state of California, we have now the most regressive policy toward residential solar, distributed solar collection and storage... even under Gavin Newsom.

...

We have this enduring narrative of American exceptionalism, like of America's "alpha," of America's cultural superiority. And the question is, and I don't think people fully grasp the degree to which we're going to ghettoize ourselves as an energy state, in terms of education, in terms of health. We're not anywhere near the top, of what other people are experiencing. And if we embrace this idea of pride in regression, you where is that where is that going to take us? It's not going to take us into a place that we're happy about for our kids.

This is a good example of just how ill-informed much of Hollywood really is. Norton's not only wrong---he's horrendously wrong. China alone accounts for 30% of the worlds CO2 emmissions. China is responsible for 96% of the WORLDS total construction of coal-fired power plants. Coal makes up nearly 60% of Chinas power and that percentage of Chinese electric power derived from coal is rising at about 2-3% per year. Even a minimal amount of research---say maybe a simple google search---would dramatically improve Mr Norton's minimal level of education on the topic. China talks a good environmental game, but one look at the Beijing skyline is all it should take to understand China isnt anywhere close to being a world leader in environmental greenhouse gases cleanliness---and Im not even getting into the level of raw untreated toxic pollutants China spews into the air, onto its lands, into its rivers, and into the oceans (which we all share) every year.

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.o...eneration/

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12062...ion-grows/

(06-26-2026 05:47 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Anyone who bagged Courtney Love for three years loses all credibility rejecting "American exceptionalism."

Stink?

Any personal insight on this one?!?





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Is he running for office?

Wow. Those guys spend their lives pretending to be other people. I guess I’m supposed to believe what they say.

(06-27-2026 08:47 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Wow. Those guys spend their lives pretending to be other people. I guess I’m supposed to believe what they say.

Or just do you, you've made it this long, your story is probably worth hearing. I don't discount stories unlike mine.

(06-27-2026 09:09 AM)glacier_dropsy Wrote:  

(06-27-2026 08:47 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Wow. Those guys spend their lives pretending to be other people. I guess I’m supposed to believe what they say.

Or just do you, you've made it this long, your story is probably worth hearing. I don't discount stories unlike mine.

So you don't discount ANY stories from the right? Hmm...