(10-22-2025 03:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://understandingwar.org/research/ru...r-21-2025/

What a joke. Trump once again is left eating a bologna sandwich after Putin reneged on their steak dinner date. This is becoming a clown show.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated that Russia is unwilling to agree to an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine that does not result in Ukraine’s complete capitulation.

There is an old saying Trump desperately needs to hear about right now:

Either Sh!t or get off the Pot

Trump needs to say frick all you crazy bastards

Not
Our
Problem

That's not going to happen. Trump will give Ukraine aid - possibly more than Biden - all because of ego. Strip away all of the policy positions and statecraft out of the equation - because Trump doesn't. He's a deal maker, made a promise to end the war, Putin is making him look like a fool and he'll jump in with both feet.

Most likely Trump has on staff - at a high level - someone who is a disciple/protege of the old GOP regimes of the past...GHWB, Dick Cheny and/or George Shultz. If I had to wager a bet - it's Rubio who is playing Trump like a fiddle on statecraft and gently leading Trump down the path to aid Ukraine. Most likely Rubio is supporting Trump to keep trying to engage Putin and KNOWING that Putin will continue to go down this path - the path of the old Soviet/USA diplomatic face offs in decades past. IMHO, I suspect Rubio believes Trump's ego can't handle this...and Trump is going to lose it and go very heavy handed...soon.

(10-22-2025 03:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://understandingwar.org/research/ru...r-21-2025/

What a joke. Trump once again is left eating a bologna sandwich after Putin reneged on their steak dinner date. This is becoming a clown show.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated that Russia is unwilling to agree to an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine that does not result in Ukraine’s complete capitulation.

There is an old saying Trump desperately needs to hear about right now:

Either Sh!t or get off the Pot

Trump needs to say frick all you crazy bastards

Not
Our
Problem

That's not going to happen. Trump will give Ukraine aid - possibly more than Biden - all because of ego. Strip away all of the policy positions and statecraft out of the equation - because Trump doesn't. He's a deal maker, made a promise to end the war, Putin is making him look like a fool and he'll jump in with both feet.

Most likely Trump has on staff - at a high level - someone who is a disciple/protege of the old GOP regimes of the past...GHWB, Dick Cheny and/or George Shultz. If I had to wager a bet - it's Rubio who is playing Trump like a fiddle on statecraft and gently leading Trump down the path to aid Ukraine. Most likely Rubio is supporting Trump to keep trying to engage Putin and KNOWING that Putin will continue to go down this path - the path of the old Soviet/USA diplomatic face offs in decades past. IMHO, I suspect Rubio believes Trump's ego can't handle this...and Trump is going to lose it and go very heavy handed...soon.

Scott Bessent said a few hours ago that new more substantial Russian sanctions are coming sometime between now and tomorrow morning. At this point, Trump has to know he's being played yet again---and badly. The odd thing here is a move toward more sanctions. We already know what the leverage point is for Putin---and it aint sanctions. I guess its better than doing nothing.

EDIT---TREASURY ANNOUNCES SANCTIONS (Sanctions on Rosnet, Lukoil and their subsidiaries)

Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) is imposing further sanctions as a result of Russia’s lack of serious commitment to a peace process to end the war in Ukraine. Today’s actions increase pressure on Russia’s energy sector and degrade the Kremlin’s ability to raise revenue for its war machine and support its weakened economy. The United States will continue to advocate for a peaceful resolution to the war, and a permanent peace depends entirely on Russia’s willingness to negotiate in good faith. Treasury will continue to use its authorities in support of a peace process.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0290

(10-22-2025 03:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://understandingwar.org/research/ru...r-21-2025/

What a joke. Trump once again is left eating a bologna sandwich after Putin reneged on their steak dinner date. This is becoming a clown show.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated that Russia is unwilling to agree to an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine that does not result in Ukraine’s complete capitulation.

There is an old saying Trump desperately needs to hear about right now:

Either Sh!t or get off the Pot

Trump needs to say frick all you crazy bastards

Not
Our
Problem

That's not going to happen. Trump will give Ukraine aid - possibly more than Biden - all because of ego. Strip away all of the policy positions and statecraft out of the equation - because Trump doesn't. He's a deal maker, made a promise to end the war, Putin is making him look like a fool and he'll jump in with both feet.

Most likely Trump has on staff - at a high level - someone who is a disciple/protege of the old GOP regimes of the past...GHWB, Dick Cheny and/or George Shultz. If I had to wager a bet - it's Rubio who is playing Trump like a fiddle on statecraft and gently leading Trump down the path to aid Ukraine. Most likely Rubio is supporting Trump to keep trying to engage Putin and KNOWING that Putin will continue to go down this path - the path of the old Soviet/USA diplomatic face offs in decades past. IMHO, I suspect Rubio believes Trump's ego can't handle this...and Trump is going to lose it and go very heavy handed...soon.

If Trump was going to lose it he would’ve already lost it.

Trump just needs to realize PUTIN IS NOT YOUR FRIEND

It’s really that simple

(10-22-2025 06:07 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://understandingwar.org/research/ru...r-21-2025/

What a joke. Trump once again is left eating a bologna sandwich after Putin reneged on their steak dinner date. This is becoming a clown show.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated that Russia is unwilling to agree to an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine that does not result in Ukraine’s complete capitulation.

There is an old saying Trump desperately needs to hear about right now:

Either Sh!t or get off the Pot

Trump needs to say frick all you crazy bastards

Not
Our
Problem

That's not going to happen. Trump will give Ukraine aid - possibly more than Biden - all because of ego. Strip away all of the policy positions and statecraft out of the equation - because Trump doesn't. He's a deal maker, made a promise to end the war, Putin is making him look like a fool and he'll jump in with both feet.

Most likely Trump has on staff - at a high level - someone who is a disciple/protege of the old GOP regimes of the past...GHWB, Dick Cheny and/or George Shultz. If I had to wager a bet - it's Rubio who is playing Trump like a fiddle on statecraft and gently leading Trump down the path to aid Ukraine. Most likely Rubio is supporting Trump to keep trying to engage Putin and KNOWING that Putin will continue to go down this path - the path of the old Soviet/USA diplomatic face offs in decades past. IMHO, I suspect Rubio believes Trump's ego can't handle this...and Trump is going to lose it and go very heavy handed...soon.

If Trump was going to lose it he would’ve already lost it.

Trump just needs to realize PUTIN IS NOT YOUR FRIEND

It’s really that simple

THE WORLD IS NOT OUR FRIEND!

FIFY

The world wants the USA to disappear so that the NWO can finally be erected.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jYoRASJZWHM

Interesting

(10-22-2025 06:18 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 06:07 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 03:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://understandingwar.org/research/ru...r-21-2025/

What a joke. Trump once again is left eating a bologna sandwich after Putin reneged on their steak dinner date. This is becoming a clown show.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated that Russia is unwilling to agree to an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine that does not result in Ukraine’s complete capitulation.

There is an old saying Trump desperately needs to hear about right now:

Either Sh!t or get off the Pot

Trump needs to say frick all you crazy bastards

Not
Our
Problem

That's not going to happen. Trump will give Ukraine aid - possibly more than Biden - all because of ego. Strip away all of the policy positions and statecraft out of the equation - because Trump doesn't. He's a deal maker, made a promise to end the war, Putin is making him look like a fool and he'll jump in with both feet.

Most likely Trump has on staff - at a high level - someone who is a disciple/protege of the old GOP regimes of the past...GHWB, Dick Cheny and/or George Shultz. If I had to wager a bet - it's Rubio who is playing Trump like a fiddle on statecraft and gently leading Trump down the path to aid Ukraine. Most likely Rubio is supporting Trump to keep trying to engage Putin and KNOWING that Putin will continue to go down this path - the path of the old Soviet/USA diplomatic face offs in decades past. IMHO, I suspect Rubio believes Trump's ego can't handle this...and Trump is going to lose it and go very heavy handed...soon.

If Trump was going to lose it he would’ve already lost it.

Trump just needs to realize PUTIN IS NOT YOUR FRIEND

It’s really that simple

THE WORLD IS NOT OUR FRIEND!

FIFY

The world wants the USA DJT to disappear so that the NWO can finally be erected.

escalator fify ... ... they still need the US(D), bruv...