(10-21-2025 08:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Sending Tomahawks to Ukraine may be a problem because of short supply. We used up one year worth of production in one month recently per a story I read.

The days of America’s being the “arsenal of democracy” are long gone.

That wouldn't surprise me. The Ukraine war has demonstrated how hollowed out our military supply chains are and vulnerable to Chinese materials.

(10-21-2025 08:49 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Oh FFS,

WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!

How many f***ing times must this be said until it gets through the fat stupid heads of the left and the right in this retarded country of ours? JFC, what a nation of dummies.

That's the hill you want to die on?

(10-21-2025 09:33 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 08:49 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Oh FFS,

WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!

How many f***ing times must this be said until it gets through the fat stupid heads of the left and the right in this retarded country of ours? JFC, what a nation of dummies.

That's the hill you want to die on?

That post can't be real. Remember he quit posting?

(10-21-2025 09:33 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 08:49 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Oh FFS,

WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!

How many f***ing times must this be said until it gets through the fat stupid heads of the left and the right in this retarded country of ours? JFC, what a nation of dummies.

That's the hill you want to die on?

Yes.

(10-21-2025 10:26 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 09:33 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 08:49 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Oh FFS,

WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!

How many f***ing times must this be said until it gets through the fat stupid heads of the left and the right in this retarded country of ours? JFC, what a nation of dummies.

That's the hill you want to die on?

That post can't be real. Remember he quit posting?

Guess what? I'm back.

(10-21-2025 09:33 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 08:49 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Oh FFS,

WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!

How many f***ing times must this be said until it gets through the fat stupid heads of the left and the right in this retarded country of ours? JFC, what a nation of dummies.

That's the hill you want to die on?

Me too.

There are 4586866767845843 billion other reasons people are stupid in this country... calling it a Democracy instead of a Constitutional Republic doesn't register.

(10-21-2025 11:56 AM)mlb Wrote:  There are 4586866767845843 billion other reasons people are stupid in this country... calling it a Democracy instead of a Constitutional Republic doesn't register.

if one can't discern between the two, they're fk'n idiots ... and they vote, too...

so yeah, it does matter quite a bit...

or maybe you'd prefer....

(10-21-2025 11:56 AM)mlb Wrote:  There are 4586866767845843 billion other reasons people are stupid in this country... calling it a Democracy instead of a Constitutional Republic doesn't register.

And somehow it bothers you.

(10-21-2025 12:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 11:56 AM)mlb Wrote:  There are 4586866767845843 billion other reasons people are stupid in this country... calling it a Democracy instead of a Constitutional Republic doesn't register.

if one can't discern between the two, they're fk'n idiots ... and they vote, too...

so yeah, it does matter quite a bit...

Sorry, people are protesting Trump over things he is doing which help to protect national security, so if someone states the wrong form of government I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. National security, however, I most definitely do (and when I'm getting alerts from federal agencies to BOLO and prep for attacks I'm definitely losing sleep).

(10-21-2025 12:09 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 12:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 11:56 AM)mlb Wrote:  There are 4586866767845843 billion other reasons people are stupid in this country... calling it a Democracy instead of a Constitutional Republic doesn't register.

if one can't discern between the two, they're fk'n idiots ... and they vote, too...

so yeah, it does matter quite a bit...

Sorry, people are protesting Trump over things he is doing which help to protect national security, so if someone states the wrong form of government I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. National security, however, I most definitely do (and when I'm getting alerts from federal agencies to BOLO and prep for attacks I'm definitely losing sleep).

do you not see how they walk hand-n-hand...

hence, mob rules (which you omitted and was THEE POINT)...

#cha-ching

(10-21-2025 12:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  do you not see how they walk hand-n-hand...

hence, mob rules (which you omitted and was THEE POINT)...

#cha-ching

Ask those same people if they elect people to represent them in Congress. They understand that part... they always call it a democracy because they have a vote, unlike in a monarchy or dictatorship.

Calling it by the wrong name does not mean they have a fundamental misunderstanding of our system of government.

So, to go back to the point I made above, their fundamental misunderstanding of the threats against our country right now are much more meaningful to me than someone calling our government a democracy.

(10-21-2025 08:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Sending Tomahawks to Ukraine may be a problem because of short supply. We used up one year worth of production in one month recently per a story I read.

The days of America’s being the “arsenal of democracy” are long gone.

If Ukraine can produce what they are producing then America is perfectly capable of producing what we need.

(10-21-2025 12:21 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 12:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  do you not see how they walk hand-n-hand...

hence, mob rules (which you omitted and was THEE POINT)...

#cha-ching

Ask those same people if they elect people to represent them in Congress. They understand that part... they always call it a democracy because they have a vote, unlike in a monarchy or dictatorship.

Calling it by the wrong name does not mean they have a fundamental misunderstanding of our system of government.

now you're being disingenuous ... no they don't ... almost all vote strict party line ... only the pubs make the mistake of feigning left due to muh muh muh fweeewins...

as soon as those words are spewed, I simply laugh in their feces and walk away ... I don't fk around with dipshites...

I WILL NOT LISTEN TO A DONK UNTIL THEY PRESENT A VALID PLATFORM ... PERIOD!!!

it's never happened in my 60.2 yrs ... now, deal with that ... b/c that is what's happening right the fk NOW!!!

addendum: Clinton's message on welfare reform was solid ... that's my concession...

(10-21-2025 12:21 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 12:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  do you not see how they walk hand-n-hand...

hence, mob rules (which you omitted and was THEE POINT)...

#cha-ching

Ask those same people if they elect people to represent them in Congress. They understand that part... they always call it a democracy because they have a vote, unlike in a monarchy or dictatorship.

Calling it by the wrong name does not mean they have a fundamental misunderstanding of our system of government.

It isn't a "wrong name". They are not remotely the same thing. But you do you.

Democracy = mob rule.

(10-21-2025 01:04 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Democracy = mob rule.

While accurate, to me the difference in governments is not so much about Democracy vs Republic. Its the "Constitution" part of "Constitutional Republic" that makes all the difference over a pure Democracy. Its the Constitution that provides Americans with their freedoms and rights. A government with a Constitutional Democracy (assuming the rights protected are the same as ours) would probably be about the same at protecting the rights of the individual vs the state as our Constitutional Republic.

While its kinda sad that most dont know we are a Constitutional Republic, I think they know we live in some form of a democracy---and they understand its much different than a dictatorship or a monarchy....which is just another reason the "No Kings" rallies are incredibly stupid and ignored by most. The people know we dont have a king. If Trump was a king, a "No Kings" rally would never happen and the government would not currently be shut down.

(10-21-2025 01:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-21-2025 01:04 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Democracy = mob rule.

While accurate, to me the difference in governments is not so much about Democracy vs Republic. Its the "Constitution" part of "Constitutional Republic" that makes all the difference over a pure Democracy. Its the Constitution that provides Americans with their freedoms and rights. A government with a Constitutional Democracy (assuming the rights protected are the same as ours) would probably be about the same at protecting the rights of the individual vs the state as our Constitutional Republic.

I won't argue this.

(10-21-2025 01:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  While its kinda sad that most dont know we are a Constitutional Republic, I think they know we live in some form of a democracy---and they understand its much different than a dictatorship or a monarchy....which is just another reason the "No Kings" rallies are incredibly stupid and ignored by most. They know we dont have a king. If Trump was a king, a "No Kings" rally would never happen and the government would not currently be shut down.

They have the belief that Trump is trying to become king...