(06-23-2025 02:36 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

No American boots in Iran causing a regime change and no welfare student loan payment for you....

I have enough confidence in that to give you 50-1 odd and anything you wanted to bet

Okay, I'll be nice to you since you are offering retarded odds and make it only $20. Within a year from today there will be US service members in Iran and we will be attempting to prop up some puppet to lead the country.

Lets make it something that would hurt you to be wrong...

$500 or $1,000 and I will set up a escrow account for my part.

Or lets just stick with the terms you offered. You said anything I want to bet with those odds, I laid out what I want to bet, take it or leave it. This is you trying to escape the bet by trying to make it an amount you think I'm not willing to risk, and you would be correct with a baby due in October I'm not willing to make a bet on anything that much regardless of my confidence level.

Congratulations in advance of the new addition to your family

I sincerely think you are perceiving or reading something into Trump’s troll message that is not there.

Personally I hope the Ayatollah gets taken to the town square and is beaten severely and never allowed to be part of any decision making in Iran.

I hope there is a regime change but I have little faith

The only good thing that came out of all of this is we reset the narrative after Afghanistan.

The world leaders are once again afraid of us. That my friend is a really good thing.

(06-23-2025 02:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Take the bet. He doesn't understand basic geography. The US isn't landing troops in Iran. Look at a map...where do they stage in your pearl clutching world?

Yes, please take the bet.

Might as well ask your mom for your birth certificate and $20.

Time to adult.

(06-23-2025 01:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  From what I've heard from experts, Iran was years away from having any deliverable nuclear device. Enriching uranium is one thing, getting it small enough to insert into a weapon and then making that weapon deliverable to the US, is quite another. So, they'd likely attack Israel long before they tried to attack our shores. Being as the deliverable distance is much much shorter.

Good grief. You loons can’t think 3 minutes in front of your own face. I haven’t even gotten through the last few pages of thread but I know that in less than a day they aged like sour milk on steroids.

Just a thought to ponder. Let’s say Iran would have gotten a bomb and delivered it on top of Tel Aviv. What do you think the Israelis next move is? And after what Israel does next what do you think Pakistan or possibly even Russia do? The shortsightedness is stunning. Unfortunately I can’t talk about the how close and how far away they were because it’s classified so not even going to discuss that part of it. However, one other thing to ponder is that once North Korea got to this point, it wasn’t long thereafter they started testing them. But yeah let’s just roll the dice and hope the 40-year state sponsor of terrorism that’s been the source of almost all instability in the region is just enriching uranium to 60% just for ***** and giggles. SMH.

b0ndsj0ns I'll make another bet and while I'm not as confident as the other, 5 to 1 for $100 that the ME is as quite/peaceful 30 days (probably less than 15) from today till at least 12 months as it was during Trumps first term.

There's always the chance one of these other 3rd world idiots does something stupid. But for the main players. The region is going to be peaceful. But I will include the idiots in that and any fighting over 3 days I lose. If you lose $100 goes to Boys and Girls club. If I lose $500 to you

Like him or hate him...LEADERSHIP MATTERS. Willing to hit idiots where and till it hurts also matters and makes those idiots actual think about what's going to happen to them.

"From what I've heard from experts, Iran was years away from having any deliverable nuclear device." Commie tom

So, in your mind we should have given the Iranians the needed time to get a nuclear bomb. Now, if that's not stupid thinking I don't know what is. "No, no, let's not destroy what they've accomplished so far, let's let them finish the building of the bomb. We'll have peace in the meantime."

Wow, what a bunch of pendejos.

Take it easy on our Soros-funded NGO employees guys. They're just upset that Iran flag they just ordered off Amazon to go with their Mexico, Palestine & Ukraine flags hasn't arrived yet.

(06-23-2025 06:11 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  From what I've heard from experts, Iran was years away from having any deliverable nuclear device. Enriching uranium is one thing, getting it small enough to insert into a weapon and then making that weapon deliverable to the US, is quite another. So, they'd likely attack Israel long before they tried to attack our shores. Being as the deliverable distance is much much shorter.

Good grief. You loons can’t think 3 minutes in front of your own face. I haven’t even gotten through the last few pages of thread but I know that in less than a day they aged like sour milk on steroids.

Just a thought to ponder. Let’s say Iran would have gotten a bomb and delivered it on top of Tel Aviv. What do you think the Israelis next move is? And after what Israel does next what do you think Pakistan or possibly even Russia do? The shortsightedness is stunning. Unfortunately I can’t talk about the how close and how far away they were because it’s classified so not even going to discuss that part of it. However, one other thing to ponder is that once North Korea got to this point, it wasn’t long thereafter they started testing them. But yeah let’s just roll the dice and hope the 40-year state sponsor of terrorism that’s been the source of almost all instability in the region is just enriching uranium to 60% just for ***** and giggles. SMH.

Don't mind Tommie. He is always like this. Has his own board of invisible experts on every subject, and all of us are idiots.

Btw, the Pentagon announced today that Tomahawk missiles were used on the third site b/c bunker busters weren't needed, and the Pentagon did not want to risk exposing the B-2 flights by putting more planes in the air.

I tried to explain this earlier as a possible reason, but the lefties think cost is more important than needlessly exposing pilots to additional risk.

Satellite images showing Iran's Isfahan on June 16, left, and Monday, June 23, 2025, right, following U.S. airstrikes. (Planet Labs PBC)


The Natanz nuclear site is seen on the left on May 20, 2025. On June 22, damage could be seen in the area following American airstrikes. (Planet Labs PBC)


Iran's Fordow nuclear site, left, was struck on Saturday, June 21, 2025, by American B-2 stealth bombers. (Reuters; Getty)

Fordow is built into the side of a mountain near the city of Qom, about 60 miles southwest of Tehran, while Natanz and Isfahan are above ground.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-strike-...ite-images

(06-23-2025 12:47 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 07:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 06:54 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  As he has said over and over, we have no interest in regime change or nation building. Zero.

You were saying?


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Yes, I saw that, too. Does it make you all giggly?

You had such a bad day yesterday, I was thinking you might take a day off to recover.

P.S. Be sure to get back to us when Trump actually does something about that regime change.

It took you 1 day to go from he's never said it to then he says it and doing all sorts of back bends to make it alright. So lets just get this on the record right now, if Trump decides and takes action to do regime change will you support it?

Well this desperation nonsense from you clowns did not age well.

(06-23-2025 01:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:31 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:27 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:47 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  It took you 1 day to go from he's never said it to then he says it and doing all sorts of back bends to make it alright. So lets just get this on the record right now, if Trump decides and takes action to do regime change will you support it?

Try to pay attention. The original statement from Trump was that he was not interested in regime change. Then he came out with the latter statement saying it might not be a bad idea, but he didn't say HE was going to do it. He just said it would be good for the Iranian people. Sorry you're too dense to get that.

My opinion, good if Iranians do it, not good for US, and Trump is not going to do it, no matter how tingly your leg gets.

Does “Zero” mean something different to the cult than regular humans?

No, that's the number of times you've made a cogent statement since the B-2 bombing run.

Keep trying to twist that logic and “translate” the orange one to try and make your statement correct when the words “Regime Change” came directly out of trumps mouth the same day you said he had no interest. “zero” was your word, wanted to make sure there wasn’t a different MAGA cult definition I didn’t know.

You were wrong. It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain you were wrong, you just don’t have the maturity to admit it and instead have to turn to talking about me instead of the content.

Much like the real Elvis, not ageing well at all.

(06-23-2025 12:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:14 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  If it’s a “war,” it won’t be a long one.

By that retard logic the Afghan and Iraq "wars" were very short. We were flying the Mission Accomplished banner a few weeks after it started. How did the rest of that turn out, and what lesson has been learned from that? Clearly none.

You weren’t paying attention back then, were you?

Mission accomplished, while a tad unfortunate in hindsight, was about the Carrier accomplishing its last mission before being decommissioned and mothballed. Not about some end to killing the murderers that attacked America.

Look it up. History can be hard though.

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 06:54 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  As he has said over and over, we have no interest in regime change or nation building. Zero.

You were saying?


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I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

He clearly wasn’t saying we’re going in to “regime change”. We could exterminate that gnat from Mar a Lago or the hot tub.

He’s suggesting the Iranian people go full Mussolini on this 84yo terrorist, then hunt down his accomplices.
The only boots on the ground will may be Israeli, Turkish, Qatar or someone else.

I’ll be front and center if we see an occupying force of Americans over there fighting Iranian troops.

Taint happnin.

(06-23-2025 01:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:22 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:05 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  By that retard logic the Afghan and Iraq "wars" were very short. We were flying the Mission Accomplished banner a few weeks after it started. How did the rest of that turn out, and what lesson has been learned from that? Clearly none.

“War” was sarcastic.

There isn’t going to be a full out regime change war.

Guessing you wouldn't bet more than a dime on that.

No need to. I’ll bump this thread in a few months when it’s clear that there won’t be a war.

Did the same after Trump won the election.

Well, I'm guessing there won't be either...but I sure as **** ain't going to red line in the sand it!

You mean as zerO famously did?

Let’s hope not.

That was an Ole whiff and gave rise to isis and a whoooole lot of dead people.

Like most dim wars.

Sad.

(06-23-2025 01:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:20 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Go back and read my last paragraph. But honestly, IDGAF what you think about any of my opinions.

Now go back and ask your mommy for your birth certificate, weirdo.

Lucky for you you'll be dead by the time the consequences of bigger stupider Iraq actually come due. Unfortunately for me I'll get to live through them, and probably live long enough that retards like you cheerlead for Iraq 3.0.

So you think allowing Iran to develop nukes is a peachy idea? Any regime change is coming from Iranians, not us. Next dope in line, come on down.

I'll bet any amount of money you want to lose that 3-5 years from now we'll find out that the claims of how close their nuke program was have as much basis in fact as yellow cake and WMD's in Iraq.

And?

Who cares?

It’s done. One more “worry” off the table.

Akin to getting a final payment of a loan taken care of. On a micro-scale of course.

Did a bunch of moolahs need a nuke for something other than using it? Doubtful.

It was reportedly confirmed that Iran had enriched uranium to 60%. Civilian energy only requires single digit % points.

Btw, just for grins, it was reported today that Obama bombed other countries without congressional authority on 7 occasions, and Biden did the same 5 times.

In US history, Congress has declared war exactly 5 times, and Presidents have authorized various military strikes over 100 times.

It's apparently okay if Obama and Biden do it, but not Trump.

(06-24-2025 12:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, just for grins, it was reported today that Obama bombed other countries without congressional authority on 7 occasions, and Biden did the same 5 times.

In US history, Congress has declared war exactly 5 times, and Presidents have authorized various military strikes over 100 times.

It's apparently okay if Obama and Biden do it, but not Trump.

As usual, it's only a bad/illegal/unconstitutional thing when Trump does it.

(06-24-2025 12:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, just for grins, it was reported today that Obama bombed other countries without congressional authority on 7 occasions, and Biden did the same 5 times.

In US history, Congress has declared war exactly 5 times, and Presidents have authorized various military strikes over 100 times.

It's apparently okay if Obama and Biden do it, but not Trump.

War was never declared by Congress for Vietnam or Korea. Only a Resolution for Vietnam and we fought under the UN flag for Korea. Now you know why history isn't taught in school anymore. Dumb people are easier to control.

(06-24-2025 07:59 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  War was never declared by Congress for Vietnam or Korea. Only a Resolution for Vietnam and we fought under the UN flag for Korea. Now you know why history isn't taught in school anymore. Dumb people are easier to control.

So true.

Only detail I would add is to say that smart/dumb is not the same as informed/uninformed. Smart/dumb is just a fact of life, imho. You’ll have that division no matter what.

Informed/uninformed is (not 100% but majority of the time) a result of political choices at some level.