(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 06:54 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  As he has said over and over, we have no interest in regime change or nation building. Zero.

You were saying?


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I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you really showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really it takes an Idiot, to believe that.

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 06:54 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  As he has said over and over, we have no interest in regime change or nation building. Zero.

You were saying?


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I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you realling showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really an Idiot.

Quoting for when you get proven to be an idiot, and what will make you not only an idiot but pathetic is when you'll defend it after Trump does it.

(06-23-2025 02:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 06:54 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  As he has said over and over, we have no interest in regime change or nation building. Zero.

You were saying?


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I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you realling showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really an Idiot.

Quoting for when you get proven to be an idiot, and what will make you not only an idiot but pathetic is when you'll defend it after Trump does it.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

(06-23-2025 02:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 06:54 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You were saying?


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I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you realling showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really an Idiot.

Quoting for when you get proven to be an idiot, and what will make you not only an idiot but pathetic is when you'll defend it after Trump does it.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump

There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens. I'm not going to hide like a little b*tch and waffle, this is going to happen and you'll defend it when it does and say we had to do it.

(06-23-2025 02:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you realling showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really an Idiot.

Quoting for when you get proven to be an idiot, and what will make you not only an idiot but pathetic is when you'll defend it after Trump does it.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump

There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

No American boots in Iran causing a regime change and no welfare student loan payment for you....

I have enough confidence in that to give you 50-1 odd and anything you wanted to bet

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you really showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really it takes an Idiot, to believe that.

"knew you wasn't" ... and somehow I'm the stupid one ... I never said the child tax credit was the SAME as a tax deductION. I've made my opinion on the CTC extremely clear here multiple times and even laid out the financial benefit to the government (as much as it pains me to do that) and individuals. I can lead a horse to water. Not going to discuss it here again. You're welcome to PM me.

I've made it clear this bombing had to happen but somehow at some point I think we'll get suckered again. It might not be Trump but there will be some kind of fallout from this.

(06-23-2025 02:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you realling showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really an Idiot.

Quoting for when you get proven to be an idiot, and what will make you not only an idiot but pathetic is when you'll defend it after Trump does it.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump

There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

No American boots in Iran causing a regime change and no welfare student loan payment for you....

I have enough confidence in that to give you 50-1 odd and anything you wanted to bet

Okay, I'll be nice to you since you are offering retarded odds and make it only $20. Within a year from today there will be US service members in Iran and we will be attempting to prop up some puppet to lead the country.

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Who cares? What's done is done. They have been building and operating those facilities out in the open for almost 20 years now, you think they're doing it for residential energy?

Well, we mostly knew until your boy tore up the Obama era deal while promising to come up with a better one. Lemme guess, that one will be out in...checks notes...two weeks?

Obama's deal was crap.

Why did this happen?

Reduction in Oversight Since 2022: Even before the recent attacks, Iran had ordered the removal of IAEA monitoring equipment, including surveillance cameras, in June 2022. This significantly reduced the IAEA’s oversight capabilities, as Iran no longer implemented the Additional Protocol that had allowed for more intrusive inspections.

Take the bet. He doesn't understand basic geography. The US isn't landing troops in Iran. Look at a map...where do they stage in your pearl clutching world?

(06-23-2025 02:14 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:59 PM)b2b Wrote:  I never thought I'd side with Elvis on anything yet here we are. The nuke facility bombing had to happen... BUT this "regime change" crap goes completely against what Trump campaigned on. It's why I've said I'll believe we don't put boots on the ground there when I see it. IMHO we'll get suckered somehow into occupying Iran and nation building / regime change of some sort.

Knew you wasnt very bright by saying your welfare was the same as a tax deductible. But you really showing it with this. Nowhere in that did the President say America was going to be a party in regime change.

Honestly only a damn idiot would believe Trump is going to put boots on the ground in Iran to cause it. Really it takes an Idiot, to believe that.

"knew you wasn't" ... and somehow I'm the stupid one ... I never said the child tax credit was the SAME as a tax deductION. I've made my opinion on the CTC extremely clear here multiple times and even laid out the financial benefit to the government (as much as it pains me to do that) and individuals. I can lead a horse to water. Not going to discuss it here again. You're welcome to PM me.

I've made it clear this bombing had to happen but somehow at some point I think we'll get suckered again. It might not be Trump but there will be some kind of fallout from this.

If its not Trump then who's going to put American boots on the ground in Iran? Why you bitching about Trump if it wont be him? You didnt give this over 2 seconds worth of thought if you think Trump is going to call for American Troops in Iran to overthrow their government...........

it would take Iran doing something that most people dont believe they have the ability to do to cause Trump to do more than bomb the hell out of Iran. We just saw what Iran is willing to chance....

bombing a empty base and even giving warnings before hand

(06-23-2025 02:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Quoting for when you get proven to be an idiot, and what will make you not only an idiot but pathetic is when you'll defend it after Trump does it.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump

There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

No American boots in Iran causing a regime change and no welfare student loan payment for you....

I have enough confidence in that to give you 50-1 odd and anything you wanted to bet

Okay, I'll be nice to you since you are offering retarded odds and make it only $20. Within a year from today there will be US service members in Iran and we will be attempting to prop up some puppet to lead the country.

Lets make it something that would hurt you to be wrong...

$500 or $1,000 and I will set up a escrow account for my part. You can make a donation to the Boy's and Girls club in your city

(06-23-2025 02:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Take the bet. He doesn't understand basic geography. The US isn't landing troops in Iran. Look at a map...where do they stage in your pearl clutching world?

Yes, please take the bet.

(06-23-2025 02:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump

There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

No American boots in Iran causing a regime change and no welfare student loan payment for you....

I have enough confidence in that to give you 50-1 odd and anything you wanted to bet

Okay, I'll be nice to you since you are offering retarded odds and make it only $20. Within a year from today there will be US service members in Iran and we will be attempting to prop up some puppet to lead the country.

Lets make it something that would hurt you to be wrong...

$500 or $1,000 and I will set up a escrow account for my part.

Or lets just stick with the terms you offered. You said anything I want to bet with those odds, I laid out what I want to bet, take it or leave it. This is you trying to escape the bet by trying to make it an amount you think I'm not willing to risk, and you would be correct with a baby due in October I'm not willing to make a bet on anything that much regardless of my confidence level.

(06-23-2025 02:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Take the bet. He doesn't understand basic geography. The US isn't landing troops in Iran. Look at a map...where do they stage in your pearl clutching world?

Yes, please take the bet.

I realize the closest you came to the military was a PlayStation console...where do you mass troops for an invasion? What adjoining land?

Iraq and run into the Zagros mountains like Iraq did for 8 years? Maybe Turkey. Pakistani? No? Perhaps Afghanistan...

I know...how about an amphibious assault from the Gulf of Oman into a big basin surrounded by high ground.

Only reason we were able to pull off the logistics, manpower and supply for Iraq was the Saudis gave us free reign to stage and roll ground troops over the border.

(06-23-2025 02:36 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:07 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  There will be as much chance of you admitting you were wrong as that, because you'll defend it when not if it happens.

I have about as much chance as being proven wrong as you do in getting your families student loans paid off by President Trump.

No American boots in Iran causing a regime change and no welfare student loan payment for you....

I have enough confidence in that to give you 50-1 odd and anything you wanted to bet

Okay, I'll be nice to you since you are offering retarded odds and make it only $20. Within a year from today there will be US service members in Iran and we will be attempting to prop up some puppet to lead the country.

Lets make it something that would hurt you to be wrong...

$500 or $1,000 and I will set up a escrow account for my part.

Or lets just stick with the terms you offered. You said anything I want to bet with those odds, I laid out what I want to bet, take it or leave it. This is you trying to escape the bet by trying to make it an amount you think I'm not willing to risk, and you would be correct with a baby due in October I'm not willing to make a bet on anything that much regardless of my confidence level.

Im taking your bet but wasnt expecting something so low. When you lose sent the $20 to GT for this board I dont need your money

(06-23-2025 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 12:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon dude, this is ridiculous. You read his posts...he more than explains things, indicating that he's clearly speaking and thinking for himself.

Now, kindly apply that apparent standard to your right wing buddies here.

Nah, I see his exact words sprouted on other sites, damn near word for word sometimes. It's a simple cut & paste.

As far as others, I have no control on what others post.

Weak.

Nah, it's not difficult. I see his exact words plastered all over Reddit. Give it a look. You'll see.

I don't use reddit...never have. Says a lot about who's using talking points.

Reddit is solely for entertainment purposes only. I use it primarily to catch up on sports, etc. The political stuff is for kicks and giggles. Reddit leans mainly far left, so I see the exact thread topics spill over to here from certain posters.

U.S. bombs Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities and likely caused major damage. Iran HAD to respond to save face...so they made a token attack against a U.S. base or two. Iran warned Quatar the attack was coming. So no doubt the retaliation was done for show. Most probable outcome is things quiet down and Trump and the Ayatollah make a worthless deal where both come out looking better. Iran keeps their head down for a couple of years until they build up the courage (and tech perhaps) to make some noise again.

(06-23-2025 02:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Take the bet. He doesn't understand basic geography. The US isn't landing troops in Iran. Look at a map...where do they stage in your pearl clutching world?

Yes, please take the bet.

I realize the closest you came to the military was a PlayStation console...where do you mass troops for an invasion? What adjoining land?

Iraq and run into the Zagros mountains like Iraq did for 8 years? Maybe Turkey. Pakistani? No? Perhaps Afghanistan...

I know...how about an amphibious assault from the Gulf of Oman into a big basin surrounded by high ground.

Only reason we were able to pull off the logistics, manpower and supply for Iraq was the Saudis gave us free reign to stage and roll ground troops over the border.

When did I say we were going to have 250K Iraq war level presence? I said there will be US troops in Iran and some puppet of the US government that we are trying to prop up.

(06-23-2025 02:24 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Who cares? What's done is done. They have been building and operating those facilities out in the open for almost 20 years now, you think they're doing it for residential energy?

Well, we mostly knew until your boy tore up the Obama era deal while promising to come up with a better one. Lemme guess, that one will be out in...checks notes...two weeks?

Obama's deal was crap.

Why did this happen?

Reduction in Oversight Since 2022: Even before the recent attacks, Iran had ordered the removal of IAEA monitoring equipment, including surveillance cameras, in June 2022. This significantly reduced the IAEA’s oversight capabilities, as Iran no longer implemented the Additional Protocol that had allowed for more intrusive inspections.

Yes, the deal Obama made with the Islamic Republic of Iran wasn't even worth the paper it was printed on. Trump was right when he ripped it up during his first presidency. (Oh, and let's not forget that Obama by way of Hillary Clinton gave the death cult running Iran the yellow cake uranium it was using to make a nuclear weapon.) Couple that with Autopen's easing of sanctions placed upon the death cult, and you get what's going on today.

(06-23-2025 03:16 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 02:24 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2025 01:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Who cares? What's done is done. They have been building and operating those facilities out in the open for almost 20 years now, you think they're doing it for residential energy?

Well, we mostly knew until your boy tore up the Obama era deal while promising to come up with a better one. Lemme guess, that one will be out in...checks notes...two weeks?

Obama's deal was crap.

Why did this happen?

Reduction in Oversight Since 2022: Even before the recent attacks, Iran had ordered the removal of IAEA monitoring equipment, including surveillance cameras, in June 2022. This significantly reduced the IAEA’s oversight capabilities, as Iran no longer implemented the Additional Protocol that had allowed for more intrusive inspections.

Yes, the deal Obama made with the Islamic Republic of Iran wasn't even worth the paper it was printed on. Trump was right when he ripped it up during his first presidency. (Oh, and let's not forget that Obama by way of Hillary Clinton gave the death cult running Iran the yellow cake uranium it was using to make a nuclear weapon.) Couple that with Autopen's easing of sanctions placed upon the death cult, and you get what's going on today.

Exactly.