(02-28-2025 10:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:45 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  Sounds like the Trump cult is. Zelensky was very restrained. He wasn't the one being disrespectful.

Trump cult...

Second broken one rolling in.

An unexpected one at that. I'm scratching my head...

I forget who said it earlier in this thread, but the BEVO snob who's gone off the deep end supported Ron DeSantis as our POTUS nominee. I'm not sure if that means anything because I personally think he would've been a decent choice. That said, u Trump was the one we needed, as we can all now bear witness to.

bullet: Then Zelenskyy should've kept his damn mouth shut, his ego in check, and signed the damn deal. But he had to show his ass so here we are.

Both of the biggest slavicucks were ronbots. DeSantis would have gotten bitche slapped by Zelinsky. Hell Trump broke him too. Now he wants his wife Lurlene DeSantis to be governor.

Her first name alone should disqualify her.

(02-28-2025 10:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:45 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  Sounds like the Trump cult is. Zelensky was very restrained. He wasn't the one being disrespectful.

Trump cult...

Second broken one rolling in.

An unexpected one at that. I'm scratching my head...

I forget who said it earlier in this thread, but the BEVO snob who's gone off the deep end supported Ron DeSantis as our POTUS nominee. I'm not sure if that means anything because I personally think he would've been a decent choice. That said, u Trump was the one we needed, as we can all now bear witness to.

bullet: Then Zelenskyy should've kept his damn mouth shut, his ego in check, and signed the damn deal. But he had to show his ass so here we are.

Both of the biggest slavicucks were ronbots. DeSantis would have gotten bitche slapped by Zelinsky. Hell Trump broke him too. Now he wants his wife Lurlene DeSantis to be governor.

I do know this: Florida's gotten its act together politically under DeSantis. (But that's for another thread.)

Also, how in the hell did I leave that u there in the post you replied to? Man, this thread's been real heated. I did not intend for that to happen. I mean I'm glad it's popular, but good grief! I called bullet a BEVO snob several times several posts back. I mean he totally is. (I say in a joking manner. It's the Houston Cougar in me.) Still, not even a darn Texas Longhorn deserves to be called names. (So bullet, if you're reading this and I'm sure you are, I apologize once again.)

TB4E: Tell me about it. lol What kind of name is "Lurlene" anyway? I mean I guess you can use it as a substitute in the song "Jolene" by Dolly Parton because it still fits phonetically. That said, I have to ask "but why?"

(02-28-2025 10:39 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 10:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:45 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Trump cult...

Second broken one rolling in.

An unexpected one at that. I'm scratching my head...

I forget who said it earlier in this thread, but the BEVO snob who's gone off the deep end supported Ron DeSantis as our POTUS nominee. I'm not sure if that means anything because I personally think he would've been a decent choice. That said, u Trump was the one we needed, as we can all now bear witness to.

bullet: Then Zelenskyy should've kept his damn mouth shut, his ego in check, and signed the damn deal. But he had to show his ass so here we are.

Both of the biggest slavicucks were ronbots. DeSantis would have gotten bitche slapped by Zelinsky. Hell Trump broke him too. Now he wants his wife Lurlene DeSantis to be governor.

Her first name alone should disqualify her.

Thats not her name. Thats me being a smartarse referenceing george wallace's wife. Plus i mispelled it, its lurleen....not much better.

I wanna know what money and how many troops all the countries that "stand with ukraine" are sending to fight russia.

I also wanna know why the slavicucks think we should continue to fund this idiot zelinsky to let his country be destroyed. All ukranian men dead? No buildings left standing? 5 more years, 10, 20?

Ronbots and slavicucks have lost Tulsi


Tulsi Gabbard
@TulsiGabbard
Thank you
@realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President
@JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
5:23 PM · Feb 28, 2025
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(02-28-2025 11:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Ronbots and slavicucks have lost Tulsi


Tulsi Gabbard
@TulsiGabbard
Thank you
@realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President
@JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
5:23 PM · Feb 28, 2025
·
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Good Golly! There's no one left but Europe to protect our boi Z. That can't be good...

I just hope no more blood is shed in this senseless conflict.

(02-28-2025 09:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:38 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:13 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  And so does Zelensky. Trump doing this publicly makes it less likely to save lives.

I will personally pay to airdrop you to the front lines to fight for this little midget...

You in?

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Bunch of ZDS here. You say the US should be strong to stop aggression. But then you should allow others to take what they want? It encourages dictators to go further. We have seen it repeatedly in history.

While its fair to disagree, most of y'all seem as totally brain dead as the TDS people and can't even understand the argument. The super MAGA people goose step as well as progressive Democrats and Putin's armies.

This deal was part of a three-phase deal that would've ended the war once and for all. Ukraine is not going to win this war. I hate that because Putin shouldn't have invaded, but that's what happened, and Ukraine has no chance without true outside intervention. Sorry, but that's a fact. Zelenskyy knows this, but his ego's too inflated to see that. All Zelenskyy had to do was show some damn gratitude and manners and he couldn't even do that. Quit blaming Trump and Vance (especially Vance) for things falling apart.

And I can't believe I have to say this one more time: BOTH PUTIN AND ZELENSKYY ARE MASSIVE AS$HOLES! I don't care either way. Besides, you can only wash swine so many times before you realize they don't want to be clean.

Zelensky fully understands this after the failure of their summer offensive. He doesn't want the 2014 peace deal which resulted in the 2022 war repeated.

Putin will sign a ceasefire, rebuild his wrecked military and maybe the 3rd time will be a charm for him. He cannot win now. Its a stalemate.

And the current lines are just a recipe for a further war. Its just way too long a front to dependably defend.

You have repeated this a few times....

What would it take for Russia not to break their word? That's what you said over and over, Russia will break their work and the little dumb*** want a grantee.

So you want American boots on the ground in Ukraine. That is exactly what you are saying. Because according to you Russia will break their word at some point.

What a f'ing stupid point of view you are making.

1. without American boots Ukraine can not win. So at some point they are going to have to make a deal. According to you America should put our sons and daughters lifes on the line to make sure Putin kept his word?

If thats not what you are saying please make it clear because you already said...

Putin is going to break any and all deals. This stupid ass fear of Putin taking the EU and America will have to fight is crazy old man talk. Either old man or someone that is stupid as f'. To be honest everything you said no "white trash" could be that f'ing stupid.

Well we arent needed. Its all good now.

They got this

(02-28-2025 10:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:49 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

And there it is. Straight from our Secretary of State's mouth.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Rubio's got to tow the president's line. He is SOS.

But it was a legitimate question. In fact its the ultimate question. And the answer is not "42" or "you should thank us." Trump's answer should have been that it will all be worked out in the peace deal. He could have used Ronnie's line, "Trust but verify."

The fact you think this is about using a "line" says a lot about you.....

some of you are still stuck in the 80s and you are one. While us white trash f'ers understand this has nothing to do with America. And while "white trash" at least smart enough to understand Russia is no threat in the sense of our freedom to America. But you 80s stupid asses are stuck thinking Putin is in charge of the USSR.

OLD F'ING STUPID ASS PEOPLE STILL STUCK IN THE 80S thinking Russia is going to take over the world.

There is no way Russia could agree to Ukraine having the opportunity to join NATO, and probably not EU either. That would violate 500 years of Russian history. Therefore, it's hard to come up with a formula for a peaceful resolution.

I still think the best solution for Ukraine--from every perspective, Ukrainian, Russian, European, and USA--is as a large neutral buffer state. I don't really see how to get there from here.

(02-28-2025 11:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  There is no way Russia could agree to Ukraine having the opportunity to join NATO, and probably not EU either. That would violate 500 years of Russian history. Therefore, it's hard to come up with a formula for a peaceful resolution.

I still think the best solution for Ukraine--from every perspective, Ukrainian, Russian, European, and USA--is as a large neutral buffer state. I don't really see how to get there from here.

Because, with all due respect, that ain't gonna fly with either Russia or Ukraine. Neither side wants to give up any (or anymore) territory. It's not a bad idea though.

(02-28-2025 01:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  Vance and Trump are just world class ********.
Vance--"you need to say thank you."

Trump is weakening Ukraine's position.

Zelensky doesn't have good diplomatic skills either. He all but endorsed Biden. That was really stupid.

Of course he endorsed the blank check of endless taxpayers money that Biden was so accommodating with.

Kinda like Bernie Sanders, won’t give a dime of his money to charity but has no problem squandering taxpayers money

(02-28-2025 08:26 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:01 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

The Democrats would like their 2016 Propaganda back.

Trump and his sycophants have only undermined the standing of America in the world in the last month and a half. Verbally attacking Canada and Mexico. Verbally attacking our (former) allies in Europe. And driving away and a wedge between the United States and our former allies and neighbors. Our moral standing now is much less than it was just a month and a half ago. Under this President we are no longer a country that can be counted on. Don't be surprised if the United States is now separated from our former allies because they now see us it's not dependable and, at least with this administration, much closer to gangster States like Russia, China, North Korea and the others because we have a president who doesn't admire good or what's right but only projections of naked gangster type intimidation. That's who Trump is personally and that's who he admires. An insecure bully only picks easy targets. Zielinsky on the other hand is was fighting against an international murderer, for the life of his country, and with great personal risk to himself and is 10 times the man Trump is, was, or ever will be. As the free world turns against the United States I hope enough people take the time to ask themselves what's going on and reevaluate any kind of emotional attachment they have to that man. Nothing he does is an accident.. he's actually a horrible person.

Said like somebody who wants World War III. In fact, every single thing you've ever said on this subforum has been absolute bunk. Just the same old leftist talking points on repeat, which always includes some variation of "ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEEE! ." Nobody takes you seriously anymore. That is, if they ever did.

Again, SIT! THE MOTHERFUCK! DOWN!

What you said!

(02-28-2025 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

I'll take those three's opinions over yours all day every day.

1. Wear a ******* suit
2. Don’t call our VP a *****

Pretty simple **** that the slaviturds can’t accept. Can’t wait til this ******** is strung up. And let’s hire some Chilean helicopter pilots for the rest of the treasonous bastards.

There must be a **** ton of $$ flowing to a few of our ‘conservative’ posters. ******* disgraceful.

(03-01-2025 12:10 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

I'll take those three's opinions over yours all day every day.

And twice on Sundays.

Zelensky is in the FA phase right now, he’s getting ready to enter the FO phase.

(02-28-2025 10:06 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  I don't understand why anyone would think that Z should be able to walk into the Whitehouse act like he did and think it's ok. Trump for all of the flaws he has as a human being is trying to negotiate peace, this isn't a conversation about who started the fight, who's right who's wrong, it's about stopping needless killing and finding peace.

Many, many years ago I volunteered to join the US Navy knowing full well that I was putting my A$$ on the line for a country that has been acting as the world police since the end of the 2nd world war. I couldn't be happier to see Trump pulling away from that, the amount of blood and tears this country has spent fighting other countries fights is insane. I want to make something else clear though, I don't think for a second we wouldn't fight if there was a reason to and with the might of our military and economic power we have the ability to lean on aggressors opposed to sending our young men and women to die for it. I have been watching the leftist and EU leaders try to do everything they can to paint Trump in a poor light because they realize the gravity of the moment.

The world is coming to a crossroads, The choice to be dependent on the government to tell you how to live and what to think or the choice to be free. The left has been poring honey into peoples ears and pocket books for decades and many a US and EU citizen has been quick to give up control. It's very sad. I am not the most religious person but it does remind me of a verse in the bible.
Matthew 7:15-17 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad fruit.

I applaud Trump for doing what is right for our country and I hope for every citizen of the Ukraine that they impeach Z so they can come back to the table and find peace.

Amen, brother. Same here.

(03-01-2025 12:14 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-01-2025 12:10 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

I'll take those three's opinions over yours all day every day.

And twice on Sundays.

The Actor lost when Trump went off script and outed Zelensky's delusion, "You don't have a card to play!" That was game set & match. Trump essentially summed up all of the reality in that line. Trump has the most powerful nation behind him. Putin has 500 years of history, the fact that Ukrainians largely sided with the Nazis in WWII, and they have the weapons both conventional and nuclear to make Ukraine a smoking hole. And all Zelensky has is borrowed weapons, borrowed money, a bunch of guys to young and too old to wage war, no place to hide and nothing without free shite from America and since the Brain Dead Dude of Free Shite is gone, both physically and politically, to quote DiNiro playing Al Capone, "You got nothin' and if you was a man you would have done it by now!"

There is a method to Trump's brashness. It causes opponents to freeze, delay, and try to assess what he might do. In the political life of this nation it buys time. Time that will allow us to bring back the manufacture of all parts for all weapons systems internal the U.S., time to bring back the manufacture of all of our pharmaceuticals (mostly maintenance drugs) so that the health of our citizenry is not in the hands of our potential adversary (China), to stock up on chips and find alternative sources for the production of those chips to sustain our satellite weaponry and guidance systems as well as our computer systems and any AI we have deployed. It buys time to replace lousy politically appointed leadership within the military with can do have experience leaders and gives us time to canvas our allies and assess our potential enemies. If we can accomplish that in 4 years' time we can avert a war which was coming due to the weakness perceived, and sometimes cultivated by our enemies, in all quarters of our leadership. That's what will make America Great Again.

Biden is the one who almost got us into WWIII. Ukraine was only seen as an asset by Germany and some other EU countries who didn't want to spend the resources on defending it, but wanted us to grab it for them. Biden deep into China's pocket was being encouraged to do all manner of things which would destabilize our nation. Ukraine was no less destructive than street riots with ANTIFA, the pushing of racial division by the DEMs, the demoralization of our military through DEI and a whole host of Maoist inspired divisive measure to make us anything but unified.

He doesn't have time to waste being polite. He will bull his way through to the changes necessary to restore competence in leadership, policies which unite instead of divide, and to restore an internal supply chain necessary for the conduct of war, and to train up an Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Space Force to get it done. Pushing Ukraine into concessions to Putin simply deescalates a flash point. Putin hasn't wanted war with the U.S. He wants to play the U.S. Card in keeping China in check and we should want the same damn thing. WWII started in Asia. It's damned likely WWIII will as well. It was in China's interests to tie up the U.S. in a European Police Action, spread us thin, alienate our relationship with Russia, and then take Taiwan and menace Japan.

There's your damn war! Stabilize the Ukraine matter and all of the U.S., an if necessary NATO, and possibly Russian attention will be focused on China and at a time when the trade tariffs will impinge their ability to continue to fund their preparations for a move in Asia. Zelensky is a pimple on the Ass of Peace in Europe. It's time to lance that boil, disinfect the area, and let Peace rest comfortably on its backside of being goaded into war.

Words cannot begin to describe what COVID, a stolen election, and 4 years of Biden almost did in destroying our nation. If we survive as a species in 100 years dissertations will be written about how pivotal it was to undo the sabotage of the last 4 years.

Actually, the USA's ability to intervene is limited with respect to any nation around the Black Sea.

The problem is that our response to situations usually includes sending a carrier task force or two. Can't do that in the Black Sea. There is an international agreement called the Montreux Convention that says no carriers can go through the Bosporus. Turkey controls the Bosporus and is at least nominally an ally through NATO. But even with Turkish permission, sending one or more carriers through the Bosporus would be regarded as an act of war.

Thus any naval force we could send to intervene from the sea would be severely limited. Everything we might provide has to come overland, most likely through Poland, or by air.

That severely limited our ability to respond when Putin attacked Georgia or invaded Crimea, and will be an ongoing problem regarding any response to Ukraine.

(02-28-2025 11:13 PM)Curumim Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 11:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Ronbots and slavicucks have lost Tulsi


Tulsi Gabbard
@TulsiGabbard
Thank you
@realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President
@JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
5:23 PM · Feb 28, 2025
·
2M
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Good Golly! There's no one left but Europe to protect our boi Z. That can't be good...

I just hope no more blood is shed in this senseless conflict.

Pretty sure that is/was the point in the first place.

Instead this chucklebuck seems to think that he (alone) can goad the U.S. into what he claims is “security”.

I.e. U.S. military deployed to Ukraine.

For what? What is possibly in our interests? I read here that there are NO rare earth minerals. So why bother?
Not sure how that’d be the case since every other northern ice plate region is pretty loaded, but ok, I haven’t looked just yet.

If so, what are our interests other than the declared, Saving lives?

Trekky said it himself “We have an ocean”. 2 actually. from sea to shining sea. God bless America.