I don't know if europeans will support Z's impeachment.

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

(02-28-2025 05:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 04:14 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 01:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  Vance and Trump are just world class ********.
Vance--"you need to say thank you."

Trump is weakening Ukraine's position.

Zelensky doesn't have good diplomatic skills either. He all but endorsed Biden. That was really stupid.

Yup. This was a staged ambush. Putin popped a bottle of some expensive champaign after that.

Trump and Vance accused Zelensky of not wanting peace by rejecting a ceasefire. I think Zelensky was trying to explain that they had a ceasefire before and Russia broke it. Why should they trust Russia if there are no consequences to them violating Ukrainian sovereignty?

All he was asking was "What if Russia breaks the ceasefire?"

And that's when Vance proved he is a white trash sob. Vance derailed everything and got Trump riled.

Wow.

(02-28-2025 09:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:13 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:12 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:09 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Happy Russia day!

Yall excuse Todor. He’s drunk.

Now let’s see if Trump really is “out”.

Now we can make that REM deal with Putin.

Again, Trump's aim is to SAVE LIVES! What part of that don't you understand? Is it the "save" part or the "lives" part? Heck, is it the exclamation point I used that you don't understand? Which is it, son? I ain't got all day.

And so does Zelensky. Trump doing this publicly makes it less likely to save lives.

I will personally pay to airdrop you to the front lines to fight for this little midget...

You in?

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Bunch of ZDS here. You say the US should be strong to stop aggression. But then you should allow others to take what they want? It encourages dictators to go further. We have seen it repeatedly in history.

While its fair to disagree, most of y'all seem as totally brain dead as the TDS people and can't even understand the argument. The super MAGA people goose step as well as progressive Democrats and Putin's armies.

This deal was part of a three-phase deal that would've ended the war once and for all. Ukraine is not going to win this war. I hate that because Putin shouldn't have invaded, but that's what happened, and Ukraine has no chance without true outside intervention. Sorry, but that's a fact. Zelenskyy knows this, but his ego's too inflated to see that. All Zelenskyy had to do was show some damn gratitude and manners and he couldn't even do that. Quit blaming Trump and Vance (especially Vance) for things falling apart.

And I can't believe I have to say this one more time: BOTH PUTIN AND ZELENSKYY ARE MASSIVE AS$HOLES! I don't care either way. Besides, you can only wash swine so many times before you realize they don't want to be clean.

(02-28-2025 09:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

As I just posted. A bunch of these people hate Ukraine so much they can't even comprehend the argument.

I hate theyve stolen our money and allowed a generation to die in an unwinnable war.

Having read your posts for years i can absolutely state with certainty you cannot formulate an argument i cannot comprehend.

Zelinsky is an idiot. A globohomo puppet that goaded Russia into a war with no exit strategy. An arrogant moron that should be hung from the last standing tree in Ukraine.

(02-28-2025 05:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:12 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:09 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Happy Russia day!

Yall excuse Todor. He’s drunk.

Now let’s see if Trump really is “out”.

Now we can make that REM deal with Putin.

Again, Trump's aim is to SAVE LIVES! What part of that don't you understand? Is it the "save" part or the "lives" part? Heck, is it the exclamation point I used that you don't understand? Which is it, son? I ain't got all day.

And so does Zelensky. Trump doing this publicly makes it less likely to save lives.

Damn, who hijacked bullets account? I had no idea...

(02-28-2025 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

No. It was ZELENSKYY who undermined it, especially when he knew it was the first phase of a three-phase deal that would've ended the war once and for all. He's the one that blew it, not the Administration.

My God, get a clue.

(02-28-2025 05:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:10 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Filth feverishly working on their talking points

Sounds like the Trump cult is. Zelensky was very restrained. He wasn't the one being disrespectful.

Trump cult...

Second broken one rolling in.

An unexpected one at that. I'm scratching my head...

(02-28-2025 05:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Trump is in Putin’s pocket and has been wanting to do this all along. Red meat for the MAGA base and a manufactured excuse to abandon Ukraine to a dictator. The whole thing looked manufactured, like a set up with JD Vance sitting there then Lindsey Graham coming out afterwards, who had always staunchly supported ukraine, with his prepared 180 on ukraine and knowing what he's going to say and how he's going to say it in lock step. Even the media jackal who condescendingly asked of Zelinsky had a suit, to the delight of everyone but Marco Rubio, was in on this middle school bullying. Trump is no better than Putin deep down. Hopefully people will begin to see that as more of his immorality shines.

Look who crawled out of the woodwork. Another pf the broken ones.

(02-28-2025 09:38 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:13 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:12 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Again, Trump's aim is to SAVE LIVES! What part of that don't you understand? Is it the "save" part or the "lives" part? Heck, is it the exclamation point I used that you don't understand? Which is it, son? I ain't got all day.

And so does Zelensky. Trump doing this publicly makes it less likely to save lives.

I will personally pay to airdrop you to the front lines to fight for this little midget...

You in?

Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

Bunch of ZDS here. You say the US should be strong to stop aggression. But then you should allow others to take what they want? It encourages dictators to go further. We have seen it repeatedly in history.

While its fair to disagree, most of y'all seem as totally brain dead as the TDS people and can't even understand the argument. The super MAGA people goose step as well as progressive Democrats and Putin's armies.

This deal was part of a three-phase deal that would've ended the war once and for all. Ukraine is not going to win this war. I hate that because Putin shouldn't have invaded, but that's what happened, and Ukraine has no chance without true outside intervention. Sorry, but that's a fact. Zelenskyy knows this, but his ego's too inflated to see that. All Zelenskyy had to do was show some damn gratitude and manners and he couldn't even do that. Quit blaming Trump and Vance (especially Vance) for things falling apart.

And I can't believe I have to say this one more time: BOTH PUTIN AND ZELENSKYY ARE MASSIVE AS$HOLES! I don't care either way. Besides, you can only wash swine so many times before you realize they don't want to be clean.

Zelensky fully understands this after the failure of their summer offensive. He doesn't want the 2014 peace deal which resulted in the 2022 war repeated.

Putin will sign a ceasefire, rebuild his wrecked military and maybe the 3rd time will be a charm for him. He cannot win now. Its a stalemate.

And the current lines are just a recipe for a further war. Its just way too long a front to dependably defend.

(02-28-2025 09:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:10 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Filth feverishly working on their talking points

Sounds like the Trump cult is. Zelensky was very restrained. He wasn't the one being disrespectful.

Trump cult...

Second broken one rolling in.

An unexpected one at that. I'm scratching my head...

I forget who said it earlier in this thread, but the BEVO snob who's gone off the deep end supported Ron DeSantis as our POTUS nominee. I'm not sure if that means anything because I personally think he would've been a decent choice. That said, u Trump was the one we needed, as we can all now bear witness to.

bullet: Then Zelenskyy should've kept his damn mouth shut, his ego in check, and signed the damn deal. But he had to show his ass so here we are.

(02-28-2025 09:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

No. It was ZELENSKYY who undermined it, especially when he knew it was the first phase of a three-phase deal that would've ended the war once and for all. He's the one that blew it, not the Administration.

My God, get a clue.

Its not about Russia or Ukraine with some. Its about not admitting......guess what....

They were duped.

Z is a con man, a low iq comedian puppet wearing a costume and letting his country get destroyed.

(02-28-2025 09:38 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 05:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 04:14 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 01:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  Vance and Trump are just world class ********.
Vance--"you need to say thank you."

Trump is weakening Ukraine's position.

Zelensky doesn't have good diplomatic skills either. He all but endorsed Biden. That was really stupid.

Yup. This was a staged ambush. Putin popped a bottle of some expensive champaign after that.

Trump and Vance accused Zelensky of not wanting peace by rejecting a ceasefire. I think Zelensky was trying to explain that they had a ceasefire before and Russia broke it. Why should they trust Russia if there are no consequences to them violating Ukrainian sovereignty?

All he was asking was "What if Russia breaks the ceasefire?"

And that's when Vance proved he is a white trash sob. Vance derailed everything and got Trump riled.

Wow.

Every now and then he lets the facade slip.

(02-28-2025 09:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

And there it is. Straight from our Secretary of State's mouth.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

(02-28-2025 09:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

As I just posted. A bunch of these people hate Ukraine so much they can't even comprehend the argument.

We are not siding with Putin - we just don’t care. The BS that Putin will roll on in to Poland and through the EU is the crap they have fed you to make you care, but it is a lie. You have watched the Russian military for three years. Do you think they are anywhere near capable of that? Of course they aren’t.

Who cares if Ukraine is its own country, who cares if it’s not? I don’t. Doesn’t impact me at all. Hell, I wouldn’t care if Finland invaded Sweden or Spain attacked Italy. I don’t care if Brazil goes into Columbia. It’s not my problem.

It’s like Micheal Jordan worrying about who’s fighting for 12th place in the NBA when he was on the Bulls.

(02-28-2025 09:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Thousands of people are getting killed daily. Slavi Ukraine. Yay.


Trump raised his voice. Reeeeeeeee


FFS.

Here's the thing. The U.S. has twice pulled the U.K.'s bacon out of the fire, loaned the Russians everything they needed to wage war against the Nazis, which interestingly enough were backed by many Ukrainian battalions and even Einsatz Gruppen. Defeated Japan for the Chaing and ultimately the Chicoms, and we have imbeciles here who don't believe in the strength and vitality of the United States and believe with all their hearts that we are inferior to the stupid bastards we had to bail out. America had one halfway decent convert to our way of life coming out of WWII and very oddly it was the Japanese. The EU is still a crooked mess which can't defend itself, Russia has nukes enough to obliterate the planet, but it would be absolutely suicidal to use them. We've propped up China with unfair trade while they have sought to infiltrate our research, hack our defense computers, jam the GPS on our surface vessels, and kill us off with lead painted toys for our kids, and gave us Wuhan where their future Mengeles and ours worked to kill millions through gain of function virus testing with manufactured and unnaturally spliced genes.

And when Americans stand up and act like T.R. once did with decided self-assurance and totally in our self-interest (which is what politicians are sworn to do though many line their pockets traitorously selling our secrets to enemies), they go apeshite screaming that standing up for ourselves and what we believe to be right or best for us is somehow a damn crime.

There is a crime but it is treason. There are insane decisions made daily but they are to support some other nation at our citizens' expense.

Now if Zelensky is smart he'll find a plane, remove its transponder and disappear into a remote place where he can change his appearance and live quietly. Without Comrade Joe to prop him up he will find himself vulnerable to Ukrainians who are sick of the destruction he brought, or to Putin's operatives. He didn't dare bend a knee today. His face told the story. He was scared because his gig just blew up and he has no cover.

The biggest issue I have with the radical Dems and their minions is their constant desire to apologize for the U.S.A. If we embarrass you then leave! This nation twice ended a World War, and unless we actually invade Canada or Mexico the U.S.'s only reputation is for ending the wars of aggression started by other nations. What we are guilty of is being over protective of country's that have something we need. But then every nation is inclined that way. There's not one damn thing the U.S. should apologize for, except for raising generations of ninnies who think we should!

(02-28-2025 07:16 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 07:03 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Seriously this will end up being a defining moment in history. Half or more of our country sides with an invading tyrant because it cost us money. Hopefully in the future it will not be American men slaughtered on a newly defined front. Then the money will seem insignificant.

Damn, don't be a moron. Nobody is siding with Putin. People are simply hoping for a cease fire and a peace deal.

Moron huh? Trump got pissed and Vance also. Personal egos should absolutely not be at play here. This is much bigger than that.

Trump should explain what the deal is with Putin. So far none of us know. Appears that Zelinsky doesn’t know either. Not exactly great to sign a deal that you don’t know the details of. Apparently it is good with Putin. He’s been strangely silent.

You and your boy Z have lost. We are not going to fund this war for the next decade plus like another Vietnam or Iraq, your imaginary fantasy overthrow of Putin never materialized and never will. Just like his imaginary "sickness" and impending death never happened. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING. Ukraine never had a chance of winning this war and never will. Now its z who is likely to be ousted by his own people instead.

You were wrong, and you lost. TAKE THE L.

Calling us all Putin backers is as empty and hollow as calling us racist. It just an over emotional outcry from a position of weakness and failure that falls flat as pancake.

Alright. Stupid instead by thinking you have "won." There are no US troops in Ukraine. It is not Vietnam or Iraq. Actually you people have been wrong about everything. Many of you kept saying Ukraine would fall next month, or the next, or the next. I know AttackCoog and I have long said it would take a long war and that Ukraine would not militarily defeat Russia, only exhaust them, until they packed up and left like they did in Afghanistan or the army gave up and went home like they did in WWI. Putin is popular in Russia. There weren't many people on this board thinking he would get overthrown. And realistically, that could even make things worse.

(02-28-2025 09:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 06:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Britt Hume, Shannon Bream and Harold Ford Jr. are reviewing the Z interview with Baier.

All three said Z is the one who screwed up, not Trump and Vance. They said he came to the meeting totally unprepared, and failed miserably to read the room.

Baier was also critical of Z, agreed with the other 3, and said Z didn't learn a thing from today.

I can agree that Z screwed up, wasn't prepared and failed to read the room.
Totally disagree about Trump and Vance. They undermined their efforts to bring peace and lost their cool.

No. It was ZELENSKYY who undermined it, especially when he knew it was the first phase of a three-phase deal that would've ended the war once and for all. He's the one that blew it, not the Administration.

My God, get a clue.

Its not about Russia or Ukraine with some. Its about not admitting......guess what....

They were duped.

Z is a con man, a low iq comedian puppet wearing a costume and letting his country get destroyed.

Sadly, for some, it's also keeping that gravy train rolling. Didn't Zelenskyy himself admit that some of the money we gave Ukraine didn't even make it to the military when he was asked about it? That should raise some questions with those who support Ukraine in good faith. Unfortunately, that won't happen, at least not for a long time.

Hey, bullet? Just admit you were duped, buddy, and all will be forgiven, even your crack about our Vice President being "white trailer trash." Hell, I'll even apologize for calling you a BEVO snob.

What say you, sir?