First of all, this article, as noted by a Nbe poster, confirms the low figures received for the Nbe tv contract.

But, as I read this article in NJ.Com, it seems to me as I read the C7 reaction to events, it appears to me that Nbe Commish Aresco is hiding the Nbe tv contract figures....because they are so low. As I read the article, it seems the C7 felt they were not being fullly informed by Nbe Commish Aresco.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=608064

From what I have heard rumored TV talks have been pushed back till they are done expanding. Expansion has become the priority for Aresco and he's blowing off networks for now.

No sense in talking numbers till they have a full deck to play with.

PS: wrong forum

(12-18-2012 09:12 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  First of all, this article, as noted by a Nbe poster, confirms the low figures received for the Nbe tv contract.

But, as I read this article in NJ.Com, it seems to me as I read the C7 reaction to events, it appears to me that Nbe Commish Aresco is hiding the Nbe tv contract figures....because they are so low. As I read the article, it seems the C7 felt they were not being fullly informed by Nbe Commish Aresco.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=608064

Aresco is a salesman and like all successful salesman that are saddled with an inferior procuct (BE is inferior to the contract conferences) he has to make a lot of noise to distract his potential suckers (that would be those prospective western schools) so that they think there is a good deal to be had. If he is successful in getting his football league to 14 they will be somewhat viable for a couple of years but it will not last, imho. There is nothing about this new league that screams stability or long term.

The sad thing is that by adding to what's left of the BE of the last several years... Cincy, UConn and USF... just so there can be a so-called best of the rest conference, Aresco is seriously damaging two pretty good leagues. And for what? Peanuts. It's pathetic.

(12-18-2012 09:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  From what I have heard rumored TV talks have been pushed back till they are done expanding. Expansion has become the priority for Aresco and he's blowing off networks for now.

No sense in talking numbers till they have a full deck to play with.

PS: wrong forum

No, that is not correct. The reverse is true.

He is not getting teams together in order to negotiate a tv contrct.

Rather, the negotiated tv contract is so low, driving teams away and creating doubt about BSU and SDSU. The issue is not negotiating a lucrative tv contract; the issue is will the low Nbe tv contract cause the dissolution of Nbe? That was THE primary point of this article.

Wow, that was a fascinating article; for serious

The best solution would be to form a smaller, eastern seaboard based conference.

UMass, UConn, Temple, Cincy, ECU, UCF, USF, Memphis, and one more for a 8 game conference schedule. This would be a balance of football and basketball. Adding more teams probably drives the payout per school down.

You can't keep your trolling confined to the realignment board anymore?

CBS isn't a major player, they tend to aim for 2nd teir rights. Why not write the speculation piece that no one else has written.

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Concerning that great, big BE tv contract......

I can't wait until the actual numbers come out. I love reading all the boards in the network, so hearing the back and forth will be fun.
Several scenarios could play out.
1. The numbers are so embarrassingly low that the C-USA alums drink the kool-aid and end it.

2. The numbers aren't embarrassingly low, but enough that they're okay with it and still claim superiority over "the little people" although they're not at the adults table either.

3. Someone being coy, takes the font of the Big East logo and makes their own "Butt Hurt Conference" logo using the leftovers from the C7, which sparks a CSN riot.

4. The schools all finally realize that if you'd all make geographically friendly conferences, accept that the separation truly isn't that much between the current non-AQ's, you'd have something. This won't happen of course because it makes sense. Geographically close rivals so the schools with smaller fan bases can capitalize on more visiting fans, meaning fuller stadiums and the potential for people to look and say damn, that's a pretty cool atmosphere instead of seeing half empty facilities and the appearance of apathetic students/communities.

5. I'm called every name in the book by someone for even daring to post here without kissing someone's arse, because clearly on a public messageboard nobody is allowed to post anything related to personal opinion anywhere unless you are given permission to do so.

6. Brett McMurphy, Andy Katz and ESPN will be blamed for all of this, because these metro schools certainly were the hottest ticket in town on to begin with and those meanies at ESPN, NBC Sports, CBS sports network and Fox Sports One ruined everyone's big chance. Like, for realz.

Unpossible,

I read on here many times the NBE would make ACC-level money or more, then they will begin poaching the Big 12 and ACC.

I can't imagine that there are any deep discussions of tv contracts going on right now in light of constant conference shuffling. Whatever progress had been made before the Rutgers loss has probably been lost and parties probably have had to start over. In fact, I'm sure Aresco is working with networks to figure out what combination of teams for the conference would maximize a deal for them. Any numbers you hear right now are probably going to be random guesses without any real facts to stand on. I'm still expecting anywhere between 4-7 million per team.

(12-18-2012 11:54 AM)Comet Wrote:  I can't imagine that there are any deep discussions of tv contracts going on right now in light of constant conference shuffling. Whatever progress had been made before the Rutgers loss has probably been lost and parties probably have had to start over. In fact, I'm sure Aresco is working with networks to figure out what combination of teams for the conference would maximize a deal for them. Any numbers you hear right now are probably going to be random guesses without any real facts to stand on. I'm hoping and praying anywhere between 4-7 million per team.

FIFY

(12-18-2012 11:20 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  I can't wait until the actual numbers come out. I love reading all the boards in the network, so hearing the back and forth will be fun.
Several scenarios could play out.
1. The numbers are so embarrassingly low that the C-USA alums drink the kool-aid and end it.

2. The numbers aren't embarrassingly low, but enough that they're okay with it and still claim superiority over "the little people" although they're not at the adults table either.

3. Someone being coy, takes the font of the Big East logo and makes their own "Butt Hurt Conference" logo using the leftovers from the C7, which sparks a CSN riot.

4. The schools all finally realize that if you'd all make geographically friendly conferences, accept that the separation truly isn't that much between the current non-AQ's, you'd have something. This won't happen of course because it makes sense. Geographically close rivals so the schools with smaller fan bases can capitalize on more visiting fans, meaning fuller stadiums and the potential for people to look and say damn, that's a pretty cool atmosphere instead of seeing half empty facilities and the appearance of apathetic students/communities.

5. I'm called every name in the book by someone for even daring to post here without kissing someone's arse, because clearly on a public messageboard nobody is allowed to post anything related to personal opinion anywhere unless you are given permission to do so.

6. Brett McMurphy, Andy Katz and ESPN will be blamed for all of this, because these metro schools certainly were the hottest ticket in town on to begin with and those meanies at ESPN, NBC Sports, CBS sports network and Fox Sports One ruined everyone's big chance. Like, for realz.

I don't agree with #4. There are a whole bunch of non-AQ teams that I look at as embarrassments. You can't compare USM, ECU, Tulsa, etc. to GA State, USA, and such.

That's one of the main thing that pisses me off about all this. We didn't play-and win- all of those tough games to get lumped in with USA, GSU, or even (sorry...) UNT.

Southern Miss is the real deal, bu we've been overwhelmed by imitators.

(12-18-2012 11:54 AM)Comet Wrote:  I can't imagine that there are any deep discussions of tv contracts going on right now in light of constant conference shuffling. Whatever progress had been made before the Rutgers loss has probably been lost and parties probably have had to start over. In fact, I'm sure Aresco is working with networks to figure out what combination of teams for the conference would maximize a deal for them. Any numbers you hear right now are probably going to be random guesses without any real facts to stand on. I'm still expecting anywhere between 4-7 million per team.

So you expect it to get better after losing the best basketball teams, losing MSG, not having a name, not knowing if you have bowl tie ins and your two "flagship" programs already having one foot out the door.

(12-18-2012 12:11 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 11:20 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  I can't wait until the actual numbers come out. I love reading all the boards in the network, so hearing the back and forth will be fun.
Several scenarios could play out.
1. The numbers are so embarrassingly low that the C-USA alums drink the kool-aid and end it.

2. The numbers aren't embarrassingly low, but enough that they're okay with it and still claim superiority over "the little people" although they're not at the adults table either.

3. Someone being coy, takes the font of the Big East logo and makes their own "Butt Hurt Conference" logo using the leftovers from the C7, which sparks a CSN riot.

4. The schools all finally realize that if you'd all make geographically friendly conferences, accept that the separation truly isn't that much between the current non-AQ's, you'd have something. This won't happen of course because it makes sense. Geographically close rivals so the schools with smaller fan bases can capitalize on more visiting fans, meaning fuller stadiums and the potential for people to look and say damn, that's a pretty cool atmosphere instead of seeing half empty facilities and the appearance of apathetic students/communities.

5. I'm called every name in the book by someone for even daring to post here without kissing someone's arse, because clearly on a public messageboard nobody is allowed to post anything related to personal opinion anywhere unless you are given permission to do so.

6. Brett McMurphy, Andy Katz and ESPN will be blamed for all of this, because these metro schools certainly were the hottest ticket in town on to begin with and those meanies at ESPN, NBC Sports, CBS sports network and Fox Sports One ruined everyone's big chance. Like, for realz.

I don't agree with #4. There are a whole bunch of non-AQ teams that I look at as embarrassments. You can't compare USM, ECU, Tulsa, etc. to GA State, USA, and such.

That's one of the main thing that pisses me off about all this. We didn't play-and win- all of those tough games to get lumped in with USA, GSU, or even (sorry...) UNT.

Southern Miss is the real deal, bu we've been overwhelmed by imitators.

Which is why a "best of rest" league would end being formed eventually even if wasnt paid a single dollar more.

Hey....Tallgrass is back.

(12-18-2012 11:54 AM)Comet Wrote:  I can't imagine that there are any deep discussions of tv contracts going on right now in light of constant conference shuffling. Whatever progress had been made before the Rutgers loss has probably been lost and parties probably have had to start over. In fact, I'm sure Aresco is working with networks to figure out what combination of teams for the conference would maximize a deal for them. Any numbers you hear right now are probably going to be random guesses without any real facts to stand on. I'm still expecting anywhere between 4-7 million per team.

The B12 was dead on Friday. The followingMonday, it had a ESPN/FOX tv contract matching PAC. So, obviously, negotiating a tv contract doesn't take long, even with conference shuffling.

(12-18-2012 12:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 12:11 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 11:20 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  I can't wait until the actual numbers come out. I love reading all the boards in the network, so hearing the back and forth will be fun.
Several scenarios could play out.
1. The numbers are so embarrassingly low that the C-USA alums drink the kool-aid and end it.

2. The numbers aren't embarrassingly low, but enough that they're okay with it and still claim superiority over "the little people" although they're not at the adults table either.

3. Someone being coy, takes the font of the Big East logo and makes their own "Butt Hurt Conference" logo using the leftovers from the C7, which sparks a CSN riot.

4. The schools all finally realize that if you'd all make geographically friendly conferences, accept that the separation truly isn't that much between the current non-AQ's, you'd have something. This won't happen of course because it makes sense. Geographically close rivals so the schools with smaller fan bases can capitalize on more visiting fans, meaning fuller stadiums and the potential for people to look and say damn, that's a pretty cool atmosphere instead of seeing half empty facilities and the appearance of apathetic students/communities.

5. I'm called every name in the book by someone for even daring to post here without kissing someone's arse, because clearly on a public messageboard nobody is allowed to post anything related to personal opinion anywhere unless you are given permission to do so.

6. Brett McMurphy, Andy Katz and ESPN will be blamed for all of this, because these metro schools certainly were the hottest ticket in town on to begin with and those meanies at ESPN, NBC Sports, CBS sports network and Fox Sports One ruined everyone's big chance. Like, for realz.

I don't agree with #4. There are a whole bunch of non-AQ teams that I look at as embarrassments. You can't compare USM, ECU, Tulsa, etc. to GA State, USA, and such.

That's one of the main thing that pisses me off about all this. We didn't play-and win- all of those tough games to get lumped in with USA, GSU, or even (sorry...) UNT.

Southern Miss is the real deal, bu we've been overwhelmed by imitators.

Which is why a "best of rest" league would end being formed eventually even if wasnt paid a single dollar more.

Yup. And if USM isn't in, then USM becomes third-tier like ULL, GSU, or anybody else. It's sad, but it's a fact of life.

nj.com is never a good source