(06-22-2025 12:06 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:52 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:20 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:54 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The russian s-300 and s-400 systems are mobile systems. Israel has likely taken out all stationary systems and a chunk of the mobile systems, but Iran could keep some of those mobile systems in hardened storage until they are needed. (Like the mobile icbm launchers).

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember Israel estimated recently that they had taken out about 55% of Iran's overall air defense capabilities, but plenty left. Which makes my theory reasonable, and Elvis' suspect.

Israel had already bombed Isfahan twice via fighters before we hit it with Tomahawks. The fact that they bombed it twice with no lost aircraft tells me they already eliminated the air defense network there.

Are you saying that our air force can’t do something that the Israeli Air Force already did twice?

This sounds like politics on the Navy’s part.

Damn, man, are you really that dense? Do you think any military leader in his right mind would make a mission critical decision by saying, "Well, last time the Israelis flew there, they didn't lose any aircraft, so I'm sure we won't either, so we don't need to take any precautions."

Do you realize how idiotic that sounds?

And did you miss the part where the Israelis estimate they took out about 55% of the Iranians' mobile launchers? Guess what? That leaves 45% still around to do damage.

Really, dude, you need to stop digging that hole. And you called me dumb for not interpreting your unclear sentence correctly.

Your stance is that this one site, that Israel already bombed twice, was so heavily defended that the US couldn’t bomb it and had to use cruise missiles. But the other two sites were fine for the Air Force to bomb? Why were they not to risky to bomb.

None of the sites were too risky to bomb.

They needed the bunker busters for the other two sites, b/c they were underground. The third site was mostly above ground. If all 3 had been above ground, I guarantee you all three would have been hit by subs, not by bombers.

I never said they were heavily defended. But the idea that none of the sites were too risky to bomb is asinine, in light of the fact the Iranians still had maybe 45% of their estimated missile launch capacity intact.

Keep on digging.

(06-22-2025 12:08 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:00 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who are we supposed to be "at war" with? NOBODY is coming to save the Mullahs in Iran. The good people in Iran are the happiest about what happened last night.

The Iran war is in reference to the Israeli-Iran war. I thought it was clear enough that I didn't need to add "Israeli."

I wasn't replying to you AAA. I was just replying to all of sky is falling I'm seeing.

AOK.

Some of the responses today are mind-boggling.

(06-22-2025 12:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Some of the responses today are mind-boggling.

TDS is a hell of a disease.

(06-22-2025 11:45 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

If they do that, it would fukc China much MUCH more than us.

(06-22-2025 11:46 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:38 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:31 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:20 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember Israel estimated recently that they had taken out about 55% of Iran's overall air defense capabilities, but plenty left. Which makes my theory reasonable, and Elvis' suspect.

Israel had already bombed Isfahan twice via fighters before we hit it with Tomahawks. The fact that they bombed it twice with no lost aircraft tells me they already eliminated the air defense network there.

Are you saying that our air force can’t do something that the Israeli Air Force already did twice?

This sounds like politics on the Navy’s part.

So what?

Why do you hate America? Now politics matter?

It was good operational experience either way

Prog filth are misersble humans.

The only politics involved are the Dem’s calling for impeachment under the “Trump is King” rubric. Shameless…

Their taco talking point lasted about as long as high egg prices.

TDSers are now eating crow tacos.

(06-22-2025 12:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:45 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

If they do that, it would fukc China much MUCH more than us.

My thought, also. To assuage the Dems, we should solicit help from China.

lol Mensa’s thread has him calling Trump a puppet. lol

So from puppet to “TACO” to King back to puppet. You can’t make this crap up.

but muh gas prices
but muh egg prices
but muh s&p500
but muh fordow <<<< libturds are currently here

Keep whining libs. Nobody cares.

I just can't get over how dumb the comments from the lefties are about this stuff.

I mean, dumber than normal. Amazing.

(06-22-2025 12:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  lol Mensa’s thread has him calling Trump a puppet. lol

So from puppet to “TACO” to King back to puppet. You can’t make this crap up.

Leftists are stupid evil people with no purpose or potential in life. They're leaches to society. In the words of SK, they're prog filth

(06-22-2025 12:45 PM)450bench Wrote:  Keep whining libs. Nobody cares.

I can’t figure out which part of “nobody cares” they don’t get.

(06-22-2025 12:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just can't get over how dumb the comments from the lefties are about this stuff.

I mean, dumber than normal. Amazing.

I honestly think liberalism is a mental illness now.

Next, we will be hearing if the bombers would have flown at a lower speed, they would have saved money on fuel.

(06-22-2025 12:54 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Next, we will be hearing if the bombers would have flown at a lower speed, they would have saved money on fuel.

lol---yup---next they will want green electric bombers.

(06-22-2025 12:54 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Next, we will be hearing if the bombers would have flown at a lower speed, they would have saved money on fuel.

They’re trying to save up enough to fund more USAID sponsored drag shows in Ethiopia

(06-22-2025 12:51 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just can't get over how dumb the comments from the lefties are about this stuff.

I mean, dumber than normal. Amazing.

I honestly think liberalism is a mental illness now.

Michael Savage called it years ago. Hell, he even wrote a book called Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder in 2005, which was supposedly banned in the EU.

(06-22-2025 01:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:51 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just can't get over how dumb the comments from the lefties are about this stuff.

I mean, dumber than normal. Amazing.

I honestly think liberalism is a mental illness now.

Michael Savage called it years ago. Hell, he even wrote a book called Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder in 2005, which was supposedly banned in the EU.

Yeah, he’s much quicker than me.

(06-22-2025 01:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:54 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Next, we will be hearing if the bombers would have flown at a lower speed, they would have saved money on fuel.

lol---yup---next they will want green electric bombers.

Don’t give them any ideas, please? lol

(06-22-2025 12:37 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:32 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  lol Sure you would be, CLT. I'll believe that when my **** turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.

Really, if you're going to get mad at Trump for doing this, then get mad at Obama, Hillary (as Obama's Secretary of State), and Biden for allowing things to get to this point with their combined policies. Otherwise, you look like a hypocrite. Not sayin', just sayin'.

How about this, nearly every single conflict we have gotten into since WW2 has been completely avoidable and a waste of human lives, resources and tax payer dollars.

Korea and Kuwait?