I was against direct US invvolvement but now that we are in frick em. I would say bomb them into the stone age but they are already there

“War Starts Right Now”: Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Vows Retaliation After Trump Orders Bombing of Three Nuclear Sites

(06-22-2025 11:38 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:31 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:20 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:54 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The russian s-300 and s-400 systems are mobile systems. Israel has likely taken out all stationary systems and a chunk of the mobile systems, but Iran could keep some of those mobile systems in hardened storage until they are needed. (Like the mobile icbm launchers).

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember Israel estimated recently that they had taken out about 55% of Iran's overall air defense capabilities, but plenty left. Which makes my theory reasonable, and Elvis' suspect.

Israel had already bombed Isfahan twice via fighters before we hit it with Tomahawks. The fact that they bombed it twice with no lost aircraft tells me they already eliminated the air defense network there.

Are you saying that our air force can’t do something that the Israeli Air Force already did twice?

This sounds like politics on the Navy’s part.

So what?

Why do you hate America? Now politics matter?

It was good operational experience either way

Prog filth are misersble humans.

The only politics involved are the Dem’s calling for impeachment under the “Trump is King” rubric. Shameless…

Their taco talking point lasted about as long as high egg prices.

lol at Adam Schiff.

(06-22-2025 11:20 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:54 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:47 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:44 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Forget about Iran for a moment. Putin can not be happy that the air defense systems he sold to Iran (some of their most sophisticated) did not detect the B2 bombers or their escorts. They basically flew into the heart of Iran and destroyed multiple sites and Iran was none the wiser.

Didn't Israel already take out most of Iran's air defense capabilities? I'm not positive about that.

The russian s-300 and s-400 systems are mobile systems. Israel has likely taken out all stationary systems and a chunk of the mobile systems, but Iran could keep some of those mobile systems in hardened storage until they are needed. (Like the mobile icbm launchers).

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember Israel estimated recently that they had taken out about 55% of Iran's overall air defense capabilities, but plenty left. Which makes my theory reasonable, and Elvis' suspect.

Israel had already bombed Isfahan twice via fighters before we hit it with Tomahawks. The fact that they bombed it twice with no lost aircraft tells me they already eliminated the air defense network there.

Are you saying that our air force can’t do something that the Israeli Air Force already did twice?

This sounds like politics on the Navy’s part.

Damn, man, are you really that dense? Do you think any military leader in his right mind would make a mission critical decision by saying, "Well, last time the Israelis flew there, they didn't lose any aircraft, so I'm sure we won't either, so we don't need to take any precautions."

Do you realize how idiotic that sounds?

And did you miss the part where the Israelis estimate they took out about 55% of the Iranians' mobile launchers? Guess what? That leaves 45% still around to do damage.

Really, dude, you need to stop digging that hole. And you called me dumb for not interpreting your unclear sentence correctly.

You're asking water to not be wet, Andy.

(06-22-2025 11:47 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

You Kentucky peeps need to primary Massie out of business. Seriously.

(06-22-2025 11:54 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You're asking water to not be wet, Andy.

I know. Every time we get into a serious debate with some of these folks, I am astounded that we have yet to see the depth of their ignorance.

Which may explain why they believe so much Dem nonsense, like drag story hour for pre-schoolers.

Or thinking that cost should be the overriding factor in battlefield decisions.

(06-22-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:47 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

You Kentucky peeps need to primary Massie out of business. Seriously.

He lost his mind when his wife died a year or two ago. He's a wreck.

Who are we supposed to be "at war" with? NOBODY is coming to save the Mullahs in Iran. The good people in Iran are the happiest about what happened last night.

(06-22-2025 10:33 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:14 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-21-2025 08:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-21-2025 08:41 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Alright men. Headed in to the office. Y’all hold down the fort here. Cheers!

Late night for work, huh? Later...

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/...lletin.pdf

Good info. Thanks.

I’m not thrilled with it. Wanted stronger language and to address the potential for proxy retaliation in the US more. But it is what it is.

(06-22-2025 12:00 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:47 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

You Kentucky peeps need to primary Massie out of business. Seriously.

He lost his mind when his wife died a year or two ago. He's a wreck.

That's no excuse for suddenly turning into a RINO. He's been opposing Trump on everything since before Inauguration Day. (Not that we don't want healthy debate. We do. He's just being obstinate.)

(06-22-2025 12:00 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who are we supposed to be "at war" with? NOBODY is coming to save the Mullahs in Iran. The good people in Iran are the happiest about what happened last night.

The Iran war is in reference to the Israeli-Iran war. I thought it was clear enough that I didn't need to add "Israeli."

(06-22-2025 11:52 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:20 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 11:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:54 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:47 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Didn't Israel already take out most of Iran's air defense capabilities? I'm not positive about that.

The russian s-300 and s-400 systems are mobile systems. Israel has likely taken out all stationary systems and a chunk of the mobile systems, but Iran could keep some of those mobile systems in hardened storage until they are needed. (Like the mobile icbm launchers).

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember Israel estimated recently that they had taken out about 55% of Iran's overall air defense capabilities, but plenty left. Which makes my theory reasonable, and Elvis' suspect.

Israel had already bombed Isfahan twice via fighters before we hit it with Tomahawks. The fact that they bombed it twice with no lost aircraft tells me they already eliminated the air defense network there.

Are you saying that our air force can’t do something that the Israeli Air Force already did twice?

This sounds like politics on the Navy’s part.

Damn, man, are you really that dense? Do you think any military leader in his right mind would make a mission critical decision by saying, "Well, last time the Israelis flew there, they didn't lose any aircraft, so I'm sure we won't either, so we don't need to take any precautions."

Do you realize how idiotic that sounds?

And did you miss the part where the Israelis estimate they took out about 55% of the Iranians' mobile launchers? Guess what? That leaves 45% still around to do damage.

Really, dude, you need to stop digging that hole. And you called me dumb for not interpreting your unclear sentence correctly.

Your stance is that this one site, that Israel already bombed twice, was so heavily defended that the US couldn’t bomb it and had to use cruise missiles. But the other two sites were fine for the Air Force to bomb? Why were they not to risky to bomb.

None of the sites were too risky to bomb.

(06-22-2025 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 12:00 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who are we supposed to be "at war" with? NOBODY is coming to save the Mullahs in Iran. The good people in Iran are the happiest about what happened last night.

The Iran war is in reference to the Israeli-Iran war. I thought it was clear enough that I didn't need to add "Israeli."

I wasn't replying to you AAA. I was just replying to all of sky is falling I'm seeing.

(06-22-2025 12:05 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:33 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-22-2025 10:14 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-21-2025 08:43 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-21-2025 08:41 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Alright men. Headed in to the office. Y’all hold down the fort here. Cheers!

Late night for work, huh? Later...

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/...lletin.pdf

Good info. Thanks.

I’m not thrilled with it. Wanted stronger language and to address the potential for proxy retaliation in the US more. But it is what it is.

Yeah, the discussion I watched this morning emphasized that there was estimated to be a large number of Iranians and/or sympathizers who crossed our borders during Biden's term, and the biggest concern now is for American forces in the ME region, followed by the possibility of domestic terrorism here.

Does Elvis actually think he has some kind of point?

What happened last night isn't gonna change anything regarding any of that. Those that hate us here, don't hate us any more than yesterday.

Russia’s Medvedev Blasts Trump After Iranian Military Strikes – Says “A Number of Foreign Countries Ready to Directly Supply Iran with Nuclear Warheads”