(05-07-2025 11:19 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  1. I'm bringing up UPS because UPS had already decided to cut its workforce to get out of the amazon business PRIOR to any Tariff talks. UPS cutting drivers has nothing to do with tariffs. Yet we still have media saying exactly that, even as of a few hours ago.

2. Nothing you posted about the impending doom mentioned the normal cyclical downturn this time of year.

So far, there is absolutely nothing that is out there that is any different from any other year.

35% lower volume year over year into the ports is absolutely different than cyclical downturns.

you compared it to the same "week" as in 2024. Thats fine, but did you also compare the prior weeks before that to see what happened. Or did you simply take a cherry picked week by the media and run with it?

It is very common knowledge that GDP in the 1q was reduced due to the very high import levels. So yea, companies got out in front of the tarriffs and imported more heavily in the weeks prior to your one down week.

all they did was to shift the shipping imports up sooner in the schedule.

thats not going to lead to "empty shelves" or the other doomsday predictions.

(05-07-2025 11:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:19 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  1. I'm bringing up UPS because UPS had already decided to cut its workforce to get out of the amazon business PRIOR to any Tariff talks. UPS cutting drivers has nothing to do with tariffs. Yet we still have media saying exactly that, even as of a few hours ago.

2. Nothing you posted about the impending doom mentioned the normal cyclical downturn this time of year.

So far, there is absolutely nothing that is out there that is any different from any other year.

35% lower volume year over year into the ports is absolutely different than cyclical downturns.

you compared it to the same "week" as in 2024. Thats fine, but did you also compare the prior weeks before that to see what happened. Or did you simply take a cherry picked week by the media and run with it?

It is very common knowledge that GDP in the 1q was reduced due to the very high import levels. So yea, companies got out in front of the tarriffs and imported more heavily in the weeks prior to your one down week.

all they did was to shift the shipping imports up sooner in the schedule.

thats not going to lead to "empty shelves" or the other doomsday predictions.

how's your garden lookin' ... green is the new tar where N = fuel ... @yepStillHuman

(05-07-2025 11:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:19 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  1. I'm bringing up UPS because UPS had already decided to cut its workforce to get out of the amazon business PRIOR to any Tariff talks. UPS cutting drivers has nothing to do with tariffs. Yet we still have media saying exactly that, even as of a few hours ago.

2. Nothing you posted about the impending doom mentioned the normal cyclical downturn this time of year.

So far, there is absolutely nothing that is out there that is any different from any other year.

35% lower volume year over year into the ports is absolutely different than cyclical downturns.

you compared it to the same "week" as in 2024. Thats fine, but did you also compare the prior weeks before that to see what happened. Or did you simply take a cherry picked week by the media and run with it?

It is very common knowledge that GDP in the 1q was reduced due to the very high import levels. So yea, companies got out in front of the tarriffs and imported more heavily in the weeks prior to your one down week.

all they did was to shift the shipping imports up sooner in the schedule.

thats not going to lead to "empty shelves" or the other doomsday predictions.

You're right. Unfortunately, there are still some people who still get duped by fearmongering. That's why the left and its media lackeys still use it.

(05-07-2025 11:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:19 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  1. I'm bringing up UPS because UPS had already decided to cut its workforce to get out of the amazon business PRIOR to any Tariff talks. UPS cutting drivers has nothing to do with tariffs. Yet we still have media saying exactly that, even as of a few hours ago.

2. Nothing you posted about the impending doom mentioned the normal cyclical downturn this time of year.

So far, there is absolutely nothing that is out there that is any different from any other year.

35% lower volume year over year into the ports is absolutely different than cyclical downturns.

you compared it to the same "week" as in 2024. Thats fine, but did you also compare the prior weeks before that to see what happened. Or did you simply take a cherry picked week by the media and run with it?

It is very common knowledge that GDP in the 1q was reduced due to the very high import levels. So yea, companies got out in front of the tarriffs and imported more heavily in the weeks prior to your one down week.

all they did was to shift the shipping imports up sooner in the schedule.

thats not going to lead to "empty shelves" or the other doomsday predictions.

I guess we'll find out in time. Even with the increase in imports in Q1 I don't think they expected this kind of precipitous drop. BTW, the media is just quoting what the head of the Port of Los Angeles is saying.

(05-07-2025 12:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:19 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  1. I'm bringing up UPS because UPS had already decided to cut its workforce to get out of the amazon business PRIOR to any Tariff talks. UPS cutting drivers has nothing to do with tariffs. Yet we still have media saying exactly that, even as of a few hours ago.

2. Nothing you posted about the impending doom mentioned the normal cyclical downturn this time of year.

So far, there is absolutely nothing that is out there that is any different from any other year.

35% lower volume year over year into the ports is absolutely different than cyclical downturns.

you compared it to the same "week" as in 2024. Thats fine, but did you also compare the prior weeks before that to see what happened. Or did you simply take a cherry picked week by the media and run with it?

It is very common knowledge that GDP in the 1q was reduced due to the very high import levels. So yea, companies got out in front of the tarriffs and imported more heavily in the weeks prior to your one down week.

all they did was to shift the shipping imports up sooner in the schedule.

thats not going to lead to "empty shelves" or the other doomsday predictions.

You're right. Unfortunately, there are still some people who still get duped by fearmongering. That's why the left and its media lackeys still use it.

hence, study up on WRH and any other that 'scribbled' ...

however, this one is #roaring'20sPartDeux ... @simple#sCyclicalGinnedRummyGemGenGame #muhGreatestSociety #manipulationWithinANYfiat

(05-07-2025 12:07 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:19 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 11:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  1. I'm bringing up UPS because UPS had already decided to cut its workforce to get out of the amazon business PRIOR to any Tariff talks. UPS cutting drivers has nothing to do with tariffs. Yet we still have media saying exactly that, even as of a few hours ago.

2. Nothing you posted about the impending doom mentioned the normal cyclical downturn this time of year.

So far, there is absolutely nothing that is out there that is any different from any other year.

35% lower volume year over year into the ports is absolutely different than cyclical downturns.

you compared it to the same "week" as in 2024. Thats fine, but did you also compare the prior weeks before that to see what happened. Or did you simply take a cherry picked week by the media and run with it?

It is very common knowledge that GDP in the 1q was reduced due to the very high import levels. So yea, companies got out in front of the tarriffs and imported more heavily in the weeks prior to your one down week.

all they did was to shift the shipping imports up sooner in the schedule.

thats not going to lead to "empty shelves" or the other doomsday predictions.

You're right. Unfortunately, there are still some people who still get duped by fearmongering. That's why the left and its media lackeys still use it.

hence, study up on WRH and any other that 'scribbled' ...

however, this one is #roaring'20sPartDeux ... @simple#sCyclicalGinnedRummyGemGenGame #muhGreatestSociety #manipulationWithinANYfiat

sorry, I tried muh best...

it's now time for zongo to hit the row-add...

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  trump is the dumbest president we've ever had.

People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

(05-06-2025 12:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 12:16 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 03:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 02:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Stink, look at it this way...No way in hell this is gonna make it WORSE, lol.

Remember, we are the world's largest consumer market, by far, and if they don't play fair, Trump can keep whacking them until they cry uncle. If they don't crack, somebody will pop up in the US and kick their Brahman butts.

This is the long game, not some sissy little patty cake hand slapping

I've been solid/consistent as a tariff fan for a variety of reasons (also saw the destruction of real steel vs. shite steel) ... #s will back me on that one (he and I 'battled' with that during "don't underestimate the donald --->>> #henceDJT)

I've just recently unleashed the premise/reasoning behind #equilibrium #hemisphericalDivide ... it's complicated ... and a bbs isn't the place for diatribes they write books about...

trust me, if shite, I'd rather it be made on this side of the hemisphere ... there's all kinds of untapped potential (and potent potables) due south of our border, Ja!!

Remember when Snap-On tools didn't break and passed on for generations?

I remember when parts for aircraft didn't snap, and the bolts going into the highway overpasses didn't snap because quality control over the production of the materials was standard procedure, prior to exporting their manufacture to China. But then Corporate Greed coupled with the lobbying/bribing process usually leads to catastrophe.

OMG!!! + infinity

I’ve been dealing with Chinese spare parts for over two decades aka subpar inferior quality always

Something else I noticed it’s an impossibility for the Chinese to make 10 identical products.

Where Germans and Japanese products are precision the Chinese tolerances vary so much there is always the need for additional fabrication and manipulation to get the desired results.

China sells price not much else. Americans have grown accustomed to subpar products to save money all the while transferring the largest wealth ever known in history straight to China.

(05-07-2025 12:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  You're right. Unfortunately, there are still some people who still get duped by fearmongering. That's why the left and its media lackeys still use it.

PLEASE tell me you're not one of those who think only the left gets duped by fearmongering and media.

I have to imagine you've watched Fox News before and seen interviews at trump cult meetings.

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  trump is the dumbest president we've ever had.

People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

(05-07-2025 12:25 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 12:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 12:16 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 03:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 02:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Stink, look at it this way...No way in hell this is gonna make it WORSE, lol.

Remember, we are the world's largest consumer market, by far, and if they don't play fair, Trump can keep whacking them until they cry uncle. If they don't crack, somebody will pop up in the US and kick their Brahman butts.

This is the long game, not some sissy little patty cake hand slapping

I've been solid/consistent as a tariff fan for a variety of reasons (also saw the destruction of real steel vs. shite steel) ... #s will back me on that one (he and I 'battled' with that during "don't underestimate the donald --->>> #henceDJT)

I've just recently unleashed the premise/reasoning behind #equilibrium #hemisphericalDivide ... it's complicated ... and a bbs isn't the place for diatribes they write books about...

trust me, if shite, I'd rather it be made on this side of the hemisphere ... there's all kinds of untapped potential (and potent potables) due south of our border, Ja!!

Remember when Snap-On tools didn't break and passed on for generations?

I remember when parts for aircraft didn't snap, and the bolts going into the highway overpasses didn't snap because quality control over the production of the materials was standard procedure, prior to exporting their manufacture to China. But then Corporate Greed coupled with the lobbying/bribing process usually leads to catastrophe.

OMG!!! + infinity

I’ve been dealing with Chinese spare parts for over two decades aka subpar inferior quality always

Something else I noticed it’s an impossibility for the Chinese to make 10 identical products.

Where Germans and Japanese products are precision the Chinese tolerances vary so much there is always the need for additional fabrication and manipulation to get the desired results.

China sells price not much else. Americans have grown accustomed to subpar products to save money all the while transferring the largest wealth ever known in history straight to China.

tolerance and standards ... who'd a 'tunk' it...

fk'n macaroon jarooney's...

(05-07-2025 12:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:25 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 12:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 12:16 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 03:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I've been solid/consistent as a tariff fan for a variety of reasons (also saw the destruction of real steel vs. shite steel) ... #s will back me on that one (he and I 'battled' with that during "don't underestimate the donald --->>> #henceDJT)

I've just recently unleashed the premise/reasoning behind #equilibrium #hemisphericalDivide ... it's complicated ... and a bbs isn't the place for diatribes they write books about...

trust me, if shite, I'd rather it be made on this side of the hemisphere ... there's all kinds of untapped potential (and potent potables) due south of our border, Ja!!

Remember when Snap-On tools didn't break and passed on for generations?

I remember when parts for aircraft didn't snap, and the bolts going into the highway overpasses didn't snap because quality control over the production of the materials was standard procedure, prior to exporting their manufacture to China. But then Corporate Greed coupled with the lobbying/bribing process usually leads to catastrophe.

OMG!!! + infinity

I’ve been dealing with Chinese spare parts for over two decades aka subpar inferior quality always

Something else I noticed it’s an impossibility for the Chinese to make 10 identical products.

Where Germans and Japanese products are precision the Chinese tolerances vary so much there is always the need for additional fabrication and manipulation to get the desired results.

China sells price not much else. Americans have grown accustomed to subpar products to save money all the while transferring the largest wealth ever known in history straight to China.

tolerance and standards ... who'd a 'tunk' it...

fk'n macaroon jarooney's...

oh, boyo ... @st!LLhumaneInTTTheGermane!!!

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  trump is the dumbest president we've ever had.

People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  trump is the dumbest president we've ever had.

People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

Biden is a prime example of what a C student with connections can eventually attain, even if he lacks the capacity to maintain it. Somehow I can't believe that this fulfills the American Dream in quite the same way as Lincoln did! Sans the age assisted dementia arguing that Biden was an intellectual prodigy is not a position I would want to defend. Clinton on the other hand, no matter how the Right may have perceived or categorized him, did possess an bright mind and an astute social savvy.

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  trump is the dumbest president we've ever had.

People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

A. No, I wouldn't, but that's not the issue here because Biden's had a long history of being dumb long before he ever assumed the position of VP, much less President. He's been known to lie about his academic record, for example, and that was when he ran for POTUS back in the '80s. B. You just proved my point in that any criticism of Biden's mental health or even just plain ol' smarts is seen by your side as a personal affront and you must gaslight us into submission. So you go for the "if you have older relatives..." bullcrap. Newsflash, dipshit! My grandmother had Alzheimer's. I knew she wasn't all there so I knew she didn't know what she was saying half the time. Now you can be mentally deficient without having a mental illness. That was Biden as well. (Whether you agree with me or not doesn't matter. The evidence is out there for you to pilfer through. You just refuse to do that.)

But hey, go back to gaslighting since that's all you're good at. I'll live here in reality enjoying myself as we go through the necessary growing pains in getting us back to making stuff here, like we should've been doing all along.

(05-07-2025 12:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

Biden is a prime example of what a C student with connections can eventually attain, even if he lacks the capacity to maintain it. Somehow I can't believe that this fulfills the American Dream in quite the same way as Lincoln did! Sans the age assisted dementia arguing that Biden was an intellectual prodigy is not a position I would want to defend. Clinton on the other hand, no matter how the Right may have perceived or categorized him, did possess an bright mind and an astute social savvy.

I have never nor would I ever claim Biden was any sort of intellectual prodigy. He's always been a gaffe machine putting his foot in his mouth. And I'm pretty sure trump was not any better than a C student either...and he had WAY more connections that Joe.

And I agree, Clinton was extremely smart.

(05-07-2025 12:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

Biden is a prime example of what a C student with connections can eventually attain, even if he lacks the capacity to maintain it. Somehow I can't believe that this fulfills the American Dream in quite the same way as Lincoln did! Sans the age assisted dementia arguing that Biden was an intellectual prodigy is not a position I would want to defend. Clinton on the other hand, no matter how the Right may have perceived or categorized him, did possess an bright mind and an astute social savvy.

Also, this. And I agree with you on Slick Willy as well, JR.

(05-07-2025 12:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 09:50 AM)mlb Wrote:  People know I disagree on how he has employed the tariffs, but he's not dumb. He does things in an unorthodoxed way, which spurs confusion, anger and attacks from those that don't do things that way.

I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

A. No, I wouldn't, but that's not the issue here because Biden's had a long history of being dumb long before he ever assumed the position of VP, much less President. He's been known to lie about his academic record, for example, and that was when he ran for POTUS back in the '80s. B. You just proved my point in that any criticism of Biden's mental health or even just plain ol' smarts is seen by your side as a personal affront and you must gaslight us into submission. So you go for the "if you have older relatives..." bullcrap. Newsflash, dipshit! My grandmother had Alzheimer's. I knew she wasn't all there so I knew she didn't know what she was saying half the time. Now you can be mentally deficient without having a mental illness. That was Biden as well. (Whether you agree with me or not doesn't matter. The evidence is out there for you to pilfer through. You just refuse to do that.)

But hey, go back to gaslighting since that's all you're good at. I'll live here in reality enjoying myself as we go through the necessary growing pains in getting us back to making stuff here, like we should've been doing all along.

Biden wasn't "mentally deficient" all his political career. That's just laughable.

And trust me, you don't want to compare the evidence between Biden and trump about who was dumber.

(05-07-2025 12:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

Biden is a prime example of what a C student with connections can eventually attain, even if he lacks the capacity to maintain it. Somehow I can't believe that this fulfills the American Dream in quite the same way as Lincoln did! Sans the age assisted dementia arguing that Biden was an intellectual prodigy is not a position I would want to defend. Clinton on the other hand, no matter how the Right may have perceived or categorized him, did possess an bright mind and an astute social savvy.

I have never nor would I ever claim Biden was any sort of intellectual prodigy. He's always been a gaffe machine putting his foot in his mouth. And I'm pretty sure trump was not any better than a C student either...and he had WAY more connections that Joe.

And I agree, Clinton was extremely smart.

yet, why ewe as a paid op in whatever capacity, has no choice but to side with the fagoos ... that has to suck schlong in any version of the mirror on knees...

(05-07-2025 12:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:27 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-07-2025 12:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I said he's the dumbest president we've ever had. That's not calling him dumb per se. Although...

And I'd say he's nowhere near the dumbest president we've ever had, especially considering we lived through four years of a guy who didn't even know where he was half the time. (And every single time we pointed that out before the June 27 debate, we were gaslit by you and your side so much you could've used us as charcoal briquets to cook over in a Weber grill.)

Curious, if you have older relatives who may be suffering from mental health issues, do you call them dumb?

A. No, I wouldn't, but that's not the issue here because Biden's had a long history of being dumb long before he ever assumed the position of VP, much less President. He's been known to lie about his academic record, for example, and that was when he ran for POTUS back in the '80s. B. You just proved my point in that any criticism of Biden's mental health or even just plain ol' smarts is seen by your side as a personal affront and you must gaslight us into submission. So you go for the "if you have older relatives..." bullcrap. Newsflash, dipshit! My grandmother had Alzheimer's. I knew she wasn't all there so I knew she didn't know what she was saying half the time. Now you can be mentally deficient without having a mental illness. That was Biden as well. (Whether you agree with me or not doesn't matter. The evidence is out there for you to pilfer through. You just refuse to do that.)

But hey, go back to gaslighting since that's all you're good at. I'll live here in reality enjoying myself as we go through the necessary growing pains in getting us back to making stuff here, like we should've been doing all along.

Biden wasn't "mentally deficient" all his political career. That's just laughable.

And trust me, you don't want to compare the evidence between Biden and trump about who was dumber.

You're right. I don't. Because Biden was easily dumber.

By the way, "mentally deficient" doesn't equate to mental illness. It equates to not being smart. And believe me, Biden's never, ever been very smart. Hell, you even said in this thread that you though Biden was a C average student who was prone to stick his foot in his mouth. So compared to him, I'm actually smarter than Biden since I had a B average in college.

But again, whatever. Keep gaslighting.