You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

(05-13-2025 09:30 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

I haven't argued against working to fix them. I've argued that they need a long term plan that our businesses can understand, have time to adjust to, and then they need to stick to it. Giving businesses 2 days warning for 145% tariffs is not enough time, then removing them 6 weeks later creates even more havoc. They should have been given 6 months to get their affairs in order, then the jump, and in that time they could have imported plenty for the short term while working on building out a US supply chain for the long term.

(05-13-2025 10:00 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 09:30 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

I haven't argued against working to fix them. I've argued that they need a long term plan that our businesses can understand, have time to adjust to, and then they need to stick to it. Giving businesses 2 days warning for 145% tariffs is not enough time, then removing them 6 weeks later creates even more havoc. They should have been given 6 months to get their affairs in order, then the jump, and in that time they could have imported plenty for the short term while working on building out a US supply chain for the long term.

Exactly. And I don't think we've felt the impact of them really as of yet. I thought I heard over the weekend that the last round of ships that just left China had basically none going to the US. So it's not really possible to have seen the effects of them yet until the actual supply of products is not there.

You know we’ve felt the impact of for a VERY long time?

Liberal stupidity, liberal lies and the liberal mindset.

Negative impact in a cataclysmic way.

(05-13-2025 10:00 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 09:30 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

I haven't argued against working to fix them. I've argued that they need a long term plan that our businesses can understand, have time to adjust to, and then they need to stick to it. Giving businesses 2 days warning for 145% tariffs is not enough time, then removing them 6 weeks later creates even more havoc. They should have been given 6 months to get their affairs in order, then the jump, and in that time they could have imported plenty for the short term while working on building out a US supply chain for the long term.

You cant fix these things by taking your time. The chinese will just wait for another dumbf*ck Biden* to roll in.

By doing it the way Trump did it, the chinese had no time to react and had to immediately come to the table.

For the domestic side, if your business plan involves bringing in inventory from one of the worse trade violators on the planet, and you see Trump coming and you know he's going to do what he says he's going to do, you start planning at that point. You dont b*tch and moan because one morning you woke up and there's 145% tariffs on your imports and you didnt stock up or otherwise have a plan for that day when it finally came.

(05-13-2025 10:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought I heard over the weekend ....

You know what thought did?

(05-13-2025 10:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 10:00 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 09:30 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

I haven't argued against working to fix them. I've argued that they need a long term plan that our businesses can understand, have time to adjust to, and then they need to stick to it. Giving businesses 2 days warning for 145% tariffs is not enough time, then removing them 6 weeks later creates even more havoc. They should have been given 6 months to get their affairs in order, then the jump, and in that time they could have imported plenty for the short term while working on building out a US supply chain for the long term.

You cant fix these things by taking your time. The chinese will just wait for another dumbf*ck Biden* to roll in.

By doing it the way Trump did it, the chinese had no time to react and had to immediately come to the table.

For the domestic side, if your business plan involves bringing in inventory from one of the worse trade violators on the planet, and you see Trump coming and you know he's going to do what he says he's going to do, you start planning at that point. You dont b*tch and moan because one morning you woke up and there's 145% tariffs on your imports and you didnt stock up or otherwise have a plan for that day when it finally came.

Exactly. This has been coming like a freight train in a tunnel for over 6 months now.

(05-13-2025 10:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 10:00 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 09:30 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

I haven't argued against working to fix them. I've argued that they need a long term plan that our businesses can understand, have time to adjust to, and then they need to stick to it. Giving businesses 2 days warning for 145% tariffs is not enough time, then removing them 6 weeks later creates even more havoc. They should have been given 6 months to get their affairs in order, then the jump, and in that time they could have imported plenty for the short term while working on building out a US supply chain for the long term.

You cant fix these things by taking your time. The chinese will just wait for another dumbf*ck Biden* to roll in.

By doing it the way Trump did it, the chinese had no time to react and had to immediately come to the table.

For the domestic side, if your business plan involves bringing in inventory from one of the worse trade violators on the planet, and you see Trump coming and you know he's going to do what he says he's going to do, you start planning at that point. You dont b*tch and moan because one morning you woke up and there's 145% tariffs on your imports and you didnt stock up or otherwise have a plan for that day when it finally came.

Hospitals have budgets, they can't quickly move. PPE is hard to find in the states, as we saw during COVID. Many medicines that people need are only made in China, and many of those people can't afford a 115% increase in cost. Many rare earth metals are only mined in China, ones that are needed for national security (yes, we need to start mining them here but that won't happen in 6 weeks). I can go on and on. It isn't as simple when we've migrated our entire economy to being world trade dependent.

(05-13-2025 10:40 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 10:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 10:00 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-13-2025 09:30 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You know, this is still an on-going process, right? A bad situation which has existed for decades isn't going to be improved over-night. Most other administrations were apparently content with gross trade deficits as long as they could keep their constituents supplied with cheap foreign made goods. Anyone arguing against an administration that is focused on improving our trade deals across the globe is arguing from the position of someone who stands to lose something along the way.

I haven't argued against working to fix them. I've argued that they need a long term plan that our businesses can understand, have time to adjust to, and then they need to stick to it. Giving businesses 2 days warning for 145% tariffs is not enough time, then removing them 6 weeks later creates even more havoc. They should have been given 6 months to get their affairs in order, then the jump, and in that time they could have imported plenty for the short term while working on building out a US supply chain for the long term.

You cant fix these things by taking your time. The chinese will just wait for another dumbf*ck Biden* to roll in.

By doing it the way Trump did it, the chinese had no time to react and had to immediately come to the table.

For the domestic side, if your business plan involves bringing in inventory from one of the worse trade violators on the planet, and you see Trump coming and you know he's going to do what he says he's going to do, you start planning at that point. You dont b*tch and moan because one morning you woke up and there's 145% tariffs on your imports and you didnt stock up or otherwise have a plan for that day when it finally came.

Hospitals have budgets, they can't quickly move. PPE is hard to find in the states, as we saw during COVID. Many medicines that people need are only made in China, and many of those people can't afford a 115% increase in cost. Many rare earth metals are only mined in China, ones that are needed for national security (yes, we need to start mining them here but that won't happen in 6 weeks). I can go on and on. It isn't as simple when we've migrated our entire economy to being world trade dependent.

That would have been an issue had you played the *slow* game.

The reason it wasnt an issue is because Trump slapped them quickly and hard, and they started having chunks of their population not getting paid. Now its a non issue, especially since Trump has since signed a rare earth mining agreement with Ukraine.

I know some of you want to say Trump did this by the seat of his pants, but it wasnt. Many of the pieces were thought out in advance, and contingencies put in place if certain things happened. He literally check-mated the chinese on every move they tried to make.

that's a whole lotta orange there, trips ...





#pureNylon

I'm not allergic to orange like most Memphis fans.

The Chinese are playing the long game while the US fights over what direction the country should go every two years. It’s only a matter of time.

The Chinese have been strategically buying American land (348,000 acres) and manufacturing facilities.

We are the frog in the water and the Chinese are slowly turning up the heat.

(05-21-2025 03:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The Chinese are playing the long game while the US fights over what direction the country should go every two years. It’s only a matter of time.

The Chinese have been strategically buying American land (348,000 acres) and manufacturing facilities.

We are the frog in the water and the Chinese are slowly turning up the heat.

Our administrations focus on restricting foreign ownership of land in the US is vital. Although the total land the Chinese own in the US is smaller than the average acreage of a single county, it should be stopped.

(05-21-2025 08:13 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(05-21-2025 03:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The Chinese are playing the long game while the US fights over what direction the country should go every two years. It’s only a matter of time.

The Chinese have been strategically buying American land (348,000 acres) and manufacturing facilities.

We are the frog in the water and the Chinese are slowly turning up the heat.

Our administrations focus on restricting foreign ownership of land in the US is vital. Although the total land the Chinese own in the US is smaller than the average acreage of a single county, it should be stopped.

You know all those Chinese illegals that came in under Ol' Foggys watch will be working those farms. I kid, I kid.

Do you really think theyre here to play footsies with us? Heck, they're all spies or future terrorists in a war with them.

Funny, but I haven't seen any info on their whereabouts or if they've been kicked out. What are they waiting on, for them to get their marching orders? The US better open their eyes to them really quick before they regret it.

Tom thrashes and whines more.