(04-28-2025 09:38 AM)mlb Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chi...r-AA1DLtBg

Quote:China’s government flat-out said on Monday that President Xi Jinping has not spoken with President Trump recently, killing any idea once again that the two leaders were secretly chatting to fix their trade war.

Beijing made this statement during a regular press conference, slamming Trump’s claim made last week in a Time magazine interview that Xi had picked up the phone and called him.

According to the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, there have been no calls, no negotiations, and no backdoor deals to fix the tariff disaster between the two biggest economies on the planet.

Guo Jiakun, the spokesperson for China’s Foreign Ministry, stood in front of reporters and said, “As far as I know, there has been no recent phone call between the two heads of state.”

He went even further to drive the point home: “I want to reiterate that China and the United States are not engaged in consultations or negotiations on the tariff issue. These are lies.” That was about as clean and cold as it could get.

No talk, no deals, no progress.

This isn't good news in any way... we're about to have huge layoffs across a broad spectrum of industries. Trucking and rail transport are likely a week or so away from essentially shutting down. Better stock up now.

Two weeks. Stock up.

I may bump this everyday.

:lmfao:

(04-28-2025 06:03 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 09:38 AM)mlb Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chi...r-AA1DLtBg

Quote:China’s government flat-out said on Monday that President Xi Jinping has not spoken with President Trump recently, killing any idea once again that the two leaders were secretly chatting to fix their trade war.

Beijing made this statement during a regular press conference, slamming Trump’s claim made last week in a Time magazine interview that Xi had picked up the phone and called him.

According to the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, there have been no calls, no negotiations, and no backdoor deals to fix the tariff disaster between the two biggest economies on the planet.

Guo Jiakun, the spokesperson for China’s Foreign Ministry, stood in front of reporters and said, “As far as I know, there has been no recent phone call between the two heads of state.”

He went even further to drive the point home: “I want to reiterate that China and the United States are not engaged in consultations or negotiations on the tariff issue. These are lies.” That was about as clean and cold as it could get.

No talk, no deals, no progress.

This isn't good news in any way... we're about to have huge layoffs across a broad spectrum of industries. Trucking and rail transport are likely a week or so away from essentially shutting down. Better stock up now.

Two weeks. Stock up.

I may bump this everyday.

:lmfao:

:lmfao: The pearl clutching over this by Americans who probably still don't have 2 weeks of emergency food and water in their homes for their families in case of a real emergency is interesting to watch.

Bump it everyday. Nothing is happening that will impact me a bit.

After the fact the left will come up with aome reason out of whole cloth why it didn't happen.

(04-28-2025 01:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  Do we have any deals in principle yet?

Yes, they mentioned a number this morning, but I forget the exact amount. Multiple. They are deals in principle, but yet need details worked out to be final. I think they said like 2-3 weeks, perhaps.

Obviously, it will take time to put it all in writing in multiple languages. That's why I asked "in principle."

Only people on the left believe what the Chinese say because they are so deep in the bed with them. Biden admin sold us out more to China than they did to illegal aliens.

China comms:
1. State a lie
2. Gaslight the lie as if it’s a known fact
3. Keep cycle going until liberals protest on behalf of China.

(04-28-2025 08:04 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Only people on the left believe what the Chinese say because they are so deep in the bed with them. Biden admin sold us out more to China than they did to illegal aliens.

China comms:
1. State a lie
2. Gaslight the lie as if it’s a known fact
3. Keep cycle going until liberals protest on behalf of China.

30 years ago, I had to deal with designing around their bs steel...

then it became empty cities...

their culture is slave labor shite in #RPPP

it's amazing the simple is ignored by the sig line 4 fagoos...

um, China Virus...f' em...buy American or save your $$...

(04-28-2025 08:04 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Only people on the left believe what the Chinese say because they are so deep in the bed with them. Biden admin sold us out more to China than they did to illegal aliens.

China comms:
1. State a lie
2. Gaslight the lie as if it’s a known fact
3. Keep cycle going until liberals protest on behalf of China.

Pretty good summary of the Trump communication process.

We are going to see morons, yet again, hoarding toilet paper, aren't we?

(04-28-2025 07:35 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:   The pearl clutching over this by Americans who probably still don't have 2 weeks of emergency food and water in their homes for their families in case of a real emergency is interesting to watch.

Bump it everyday. Nothing is happening that will impact me a bit.

After the fact the left will come up with aome reason out of whole cloth why it didn't happen.

Go ahead and bump it. Hope you don't have to go to a hospital while you are at it. Where do you think the medications, PPE, and computer equipment to run MRIs, CT scans, etc., come from?

Thankfully most were smart enough to stockpile the PPE and meds ahead of time, but eventually that will become an issue as well.

The entire point of the article I read (and posted similar) was that the ports are quickly becoming empty and there won't be goods to move east, so if you have needs for products that aren't easily replaceable by another country, you better stock up now before the warehouses become empty.

I was a child of the 70s. I know how to do without. Hell, my mom still has her sewing machine. I remember the days of going to TG&Y and picking out the "patterns" for my clothes. Time to separate the Men from the boys.....again.

(04-28-2025 08:42 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 08:04 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Only people on the left believe what the Chinese say because they are so deep in the bed with them. Biden admin sold us out more to China than they did to illegal aliens.

China comms:
1. State a lie
2. Gaslight the lie as if it’s a known fact
3. Keep cycle going until liberals protest on behalf of China.

30 years ago, I had to deal with designing around their bs steel...

then it became empty cities...

their culture is slave labor shite in #RPPP

it's amazing the simple is ignored by the sig line 4 fagoos...

You are absolutely right, their culture is slave labor. The problem is that we've, over the last several decades, become a slave to their labor because our society loves cheap crap. We now don't have the manufacturing capacity to do it ourselves. It will take years for us to bring back the capacity to do things here thus we need a fully comprehensive plan to do it. I don't think that Trump or any other politician has the stones to do it, and it certainly doesn't look like we had a comprehensive plan to replace the missing goods from the market now.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/plungi...e-truckers

Quote:In a stark reversal of fortune, the bustling Port of Los Angeles, long a reliable source of freight for truckers across the nation, is facing a significant downturn in container volumes. This decline is expected to have far-reaching consequences for the trucking industry, particularly for carriers that have traditionally relied on Southern California for steady business.

Recent data from SONAR’s Container Atlas reveals a troubling trend: Daily ocean container bookings from China to the United States have plummeted by 20% compared to the same period last year. This sharp decline is largely attributed to the escalating trade tensions between the two economic powerhouses, with the Trump administration’s aggressive tariff policies, including a recently imposed 245% tariff on Chinese imports, playing a central role.

(04-28-2025 03:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 02:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-28-2025 01:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Hey Rotunda, your egg price thread didnt age like a Biden* bowel movement because of any misundertanding [sic] on my part.

Sure, mutt-face. And what exactly is a misundertanding?

And yeah, if you came to any other conclusion reading that egg thread than trump is a bald-faced liar and that your buddy posters in that thread where as clueless as ever, yeah, you had a misundertanding.

Retail egg prices continued to increase, under trump, through March. They didn't go down.

Dear Rotunda, there is a difference between retail and wholesale prices.

and retail prices LAG wholesale price movements by a few weeks.

Therefore, when wholesale egg prices under Trump dropped more than they have ever dropped in the history of wholesale egg prices, it took retail prices a few weeks to do the same. ANd this causes you great butthurt, because you keep talking about early March when we are 2 days away from May.

No, mutt-face, THAT causes me NO butthurt, because I...unlike you and your minions in that thread...know how these things work.

Do I really need to repost your post from 10 years ago where you were telling us all how insurance deductibles worked?

Quote:And yeah, you followed gleefully along with them claiming egg prices decreased. And newsflash, remember back in the campaign...you and the clowns railed on the RETAIL price of eggs...you know...because that's what WE pay. Nobody really gives a **** what the wholesale prices are as we don't pay those. And FWIW, the wholesale price of eggs reached a record high, IN MARCH 2025, UNDER the trump administration!
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

1. Biden culled about 20% of the egg laying hens on the way out the door.

2. It took a few weeks for the full effect of that to hit wholesale egg prices.

3. Trump took action, and the wholesale egg prices dropped by historic amounts.

4. A few weeks later retail egg prices dropped

The goalpost hasnt moved. Its still up your ass where I shoved it.

You just keep on showing your ignorance in servitude of your orange cult leader.

1. The president doesn't cull chickens. And he didn't do any of that "on his way out the door." The flu had been mostly stopped by that point thanks to the farmers culling the chickens long before that. Again, presidents don't cull chickens. That's a well established industry method for controlling bird flu.

2. A few weeks? Wholesale egg prices reached their record high on March 3rd, 2025. That's 6 weeks after trump was sworn in.

3. trump didn't take any action other than trying to import some eggs. From what I can find, they imported under 2 million eggs...mostly from Turkey...in January and February, which hardly makes a dent in the amount of eggs consumed in the US. The historic drop was due to the eradication of the flu. Thanks Joe!

4. Retail egg prices continued to increase through March of 2025, NOT decrease. They peaked at $6.22 per dozen at the end of March. We won't have the April numbers for a few weeks. That's like 3 weeks as I'll add "few" to the list of words you don't know the definition of.


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111

And yes, tell us all again, how 10 years ago I made a mistake explaining co-Insurance (not deductibles). Which again I owned up to quickly, 10 years ago. I'm sure that's still relevant in comparison to the growing list of things you continually get wrong today.

(04-29-2025 08:28 AM)Trojanbybirth Wrote:  ^Hold up. So we won't see the April numbers for a few weeks but the peak of $6.22 is attributed to March? Nah playa, by this logic, that price got to be rolled back "a few weeks." And yeah playa, pedohitler killed a bunch of chickens. Oh wait it was actually Phyllis Fong the USDA IG crazy woman. She was workin for pedohitler, so it checks out.

Yeah, that's how this works. The retail prices are released by the St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank and are released monthly. We got the March numbers in Mid-April and the April numbers will come in Mid-May.

The retail prices at the end of March were at $6.22 a dozen, a record high. They most likely have started to come back down being as Easter has passed...but who knows with trump's needless tariff trade war. They could still go up.

As you can imagine, it takes longer to compare retail prices as there's WAY more retail sales of eggs than wholesale sales of eggs, which are tracked much closer.

The media rightly points out the tariff pain to Americans, but does not mention the benefits (partly Trump's administration's fault) nor the pain to the other side which might bring them to the table.

(04-29-2025 08:32 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The media rightly points out the tariff pain to Americans, but does not mention the benefits (partly Trump's administration's fault) nor the pain to the other side which might bring them to the table.

What benefits?

And in case you haven't noticed, Americans are impatient. They aren't going to wait years to see these supposed benefits.

This could get interesting... like I said yesterday, the businesses will be the ones who start screaming first.

https://www.barrons.com/news/amazon-poli...e-b72b81f4

Quote:The White House on Tuesday slammed Amazon over reports that it would begin telling consumers how much US President Donald Trump's tariffs have contributed to the price tag on its goods.

"This is a hostile and political act by Amazon. Why didn't Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest level in 40 years?" Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters.

(04-29-2025 08:48 AM)mlb Wrote:  This could get interesting... like I said yesterday, the businesses will be the ones who start screaming first.

https://www.barrons.com/news/amazon-poli...e-b72b81f4

Quote:The White House on Tuesday slammed Amazon over reports that it would begin telling consumers how much US President Donald Trump's tariffs have contributed to the price tag on its goods.

"This is a hostile and political act by Amazon. Why didn't Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest level in 40 years?" Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters.

FFS, that Leavitt is some kind of stupid.

(04-29-2025 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-29-2025 08:48 AM)mlb Wrote:  This could get interesting... like I said yesterday, the businesses will be the ones who start screaming first.

https://www.barrons.com/news/amazon-poli...e-b72b81f4

Quote:The White House on Tuesday slammed Amazon over reports that it would begin telling consumers how much US President Donald Trump's tariffs have contributed to the price tag on its goods.

"This is a hostile and political act by Amazon. Why didn't Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest level in 40 years?" Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters.

FFS, that Leavitt is some kind of stupid.

Why's that? Biden signed the Inflation Explosion Act which caused skyrocketing inflation.