(11-25-2024 11:32 PM)Todor Wrote:  Americas appetite for drugs will ensure they don’t stop flowing.

They never have before.

They aren’t going to now.

Unless the US sends drones into the Mexican border towns and does what Mexico can’t. Clean up the cartels by killing them all. A two hour offensive would cripple their business.

Then warn if they start sending drugs, women and children across the border again, we’ll use the drones again.

This isn’t the Biden Administration. Trump is ready to put foot to as.

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

(11-25-2024 11:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  To be clear, according to Trump the 25% tariffs will not be implemented, or if implemented will be removed, once Mexico and Canada stop the flow of illegal immigrants and fentanyl into the U.S.

Pop quiz, where does the flow of Fentanyl come in to our country, and who brings it in?

You won't like the answer.

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

Sure, Jan.

Market already down 250+ today.

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

(11-26-2024 10:14 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

Or that the US producers won't raise their prices accordingly because they can now make a larger profit margin?

(11-26-2024 10:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

Sure, Jan.

Market already down 250+ today.

Only because Amgen weight loss drug is a failure.

(11-26-2024 10:14 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

We have actual history that shows that the inflation was extremely small: Trump enacted targeted tariffs from 2017-2019 and it led to small marginal inflation gains in localized areas. Inflation remained steadily low which mirrored historical trends. Those targeted industries were 25% on steel and 10% aluminum. Specific to China, those tariffs ranged from 10-25%. Canadian lumber was 20%. Costs did increase in those areas.

Products that would now be affected that were not then would be: agricultural products, Canadian crude, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and Chinese electronics. Temporarily enacting tariffs on these products isn’t going to create a deeper recession.

Trump also used these in his first term to get the USMCA deal done in late 2018. He is using this strategy again to put pressure on Canada and Mexico to work with us on drug trafficking and immigration, which are far greater issues than a small tariff.

(11-26-2024 10:32 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:14 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 07:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good start. Except I would make it 100%. It won't take long for them to correct it. Both countries have huge trade surpluses with us.

The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

We have actual history that shows that the inflation was extremely small: Trump enacted targeted tariffs from 2017-2019 and it led to small marginal inflation gains in localized areas. Inflation remained steadily low which mirrored historical trends. Those targeted industries were 25% on steel and 10% aluminum. Specific to China, those tariffs ranged from 10-25%. Canadian lumber was 20%. Costs did increase in those areas.

Products that would now be affected that were not then would be: agricultural products, Canadian crude, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and Chinese electronics. Temporarily enacting tariffs on these products isn’t going to create a deeper recession.

Trump also used these in his first term to get the USMCA deal done in late 2018. He is using this strategy again to put pressure on Canada and Mexico to work with us on drug trafficking and immigration, which are far greater issues than a small tariff.

THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

(11-26-2024 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:32 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:14 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem is the companies in the US will raise all the prices on us, and neither countries will do anything. We are gonna suffer paying higher prices for food, cloths, housing, cars, etc.

There’s no proof that this would happen.

So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

We have actual history that shows that the inflation was extremely small: Trump enacted targeted tariffs from 2017-2019 and it led to small marginal inflation gains in localized areas. Inflation remained steadily low which mirrored historical trends. Those targeted industries were 25% on steel and 10% aluminum. Specific to China, those tariffs ranged from 10-25%. Canadian lumber was 20%. Costs did increase in those areas.

Products that would now be affected that were not then would be: agricultural products, Canadian crude, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and Chinese electronics. Temporarily enacting tariffs on these products isn’t going to create a deeper recession.

Trump also used these in his first term to get the USMCA deal done in late 2018. He is using this strategy again to put pressure on Canada and Mexico to work with us on drug trafficking and immigration, which are far greater issues than a small tariff.

THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

Dude, read the second paragraph where I address this. Get a grip.

The same reeeeeeees that Trump needs to to e it down, needs to compromise.

I swear yall are gutless

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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The announcement came only 12 hours later.
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The same reeeeeeees that Trump needs to to tone it down, needs to compromise.

I swear yall are gutless

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@EricLDaugh
#BREAKING: Mexican president announces she is stopping the migrant caravans from arriving at the U.S. southern border after Trump's tariff threat.

The announcement came only 12 hours later.
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(11-26-2024 10:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:32 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:14 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 09:55 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  There’s no proof that this would happen.

So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

We have actual history that shows that the inflation was extremely small: Trump enacted targeted tariffs from 2017-2019 and it led to small marginal inflation gains in localized areas. Inflation remained steadily low which mirrored historical trends. Those targeted industries were 25% on steel and 10% aluminum. Specific to China, those tariffs ranged from 10-25%. Canadian lumber was 20%. Costs did increase in those areas.

Products that would now be affected that were not then would be: agricultural products, Canadian crude, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and Chinese electronics. Temporarily enacting tariffs on these products isn’t going to create a deeper recession.

Trump also used these in his first term to get the USMCA deal done in late 2018. He is using this strategy again to put pressure on Canada and Mexico to work with us on drug trafficking and immigration, which are far greater issues than a small tariff.

THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

Dude, read the second paragraph where I address this. Get a grip.

I did read it. You're premise is that inflation would be small and quickly recede. My point is that these are not targeted tariffs.

And that paragraph actually sort of states that you expect a recession, but not a deep one. If so, you think taking the good economy that we have now and creating a recession...even a short or shallow one, is a good thing?

(11-26-2024 10:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:32 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:14 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  So if there's a 25% tax imposed on importers bringing goods into the country from Canada and Mexico, who's going to pay it? You don't think they're going to pass that additional cost onto the consumer?

We have actual history that shows that the inflation was extremely small: Trump enacted targeted tariffs from 2017-2019 and it led to small marginal inflation gains in localized areas. Inflation remained steadily low which mirrored historical trends. Those targeted industries were 25% on steel and 10% aluminum. Specific to China, those tariffs ranged from 10-25%. Canadian lumber was 20%. Costs did increase in those areas.

Products that would now be affected that were not then would be: agricultural products, Canadian crude, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and Chinese electronics. Temporarily enacting tariffs on these products isn’t going to create a deeper recession.

Trump also used these in his first term to get the USMCA deal done in late 2018. He is using this strategy again to put pressure on Canada and Mexico to work with us on drug trafficking and immigration, which are far greater issues than a small tariff.

THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

Dude, read the second paragraph where I address this. Get a grip.

I did read it. You're premise is that inflation would be small and quickly recede. My point is that these are not targeted tariffs.

And that paragraph actually sort of states that you expect a recession, but not a deep one. If so, you think taking the good economy that we have now and creating a recession...even a short or shallow one, is a good thing?

My second paragraph lists the major industries and products that would be impacted with wide spread tariffs. They were not included in Trump’s first term.

The economy is already poor, but because of high interest rates from the previous administration + idiot Fed Chair.

It will take a year or two to fix what is fundamentally wrong with the economy.

(11-26-2024 10:43 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:32 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  We have actual history that shows that the inflation was extremely small: Trump enacted targeted tariffs from 2017-2019 and it led to small marginal inflation gains in localized areas. Inflation remained steadily low which mirrored historical trends. Those targeted industries were 25% on steel and 10% aluminum. Specific to China, those tariffs ranged from 10-25%. Canadian lumber was 20%. Costs did increase in those areas.

Products that would now be affected that were not then would be: agricultural products, Canadian crude, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and Chinese electronics. Temporarily enacting tariffs on these products isn’t going to create a deeper recession.

Trump also used these in his first term to get the USMCA deal done in late 2018. He is using this strategy again to put pressure on Canada and Mexico to work with us on drug trafficking and immigration, which are far greater issues than a small tariff.

THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

Dude, read the second paragraph where I address this. Get a grip.

I did read it. You're premise is that inflation would be small and quickly recede. My point is that these are not targeted tariffs.

And that paragraph actually sort of states that you expect a recession, but not a deep one. If so, you think taking the good economy that we have now and creating a recession...even a short or shallow one, is a good thing?

My second paragraph lists the major industries and products that would be impacted with wide spread tariffs. They were not included in Trump’s first term.

The economy is already poor, but because of high interest rates from the previous administration + idiot Fed Chair.

It will take a year or two to fix what is fundamentally wrong with the economy.

FFS, our economy is not currently poor!

And trumps post says ALL products.

Funny to see libs clutch their pearls over tariffs when most of them were all for Kamala's corporate tax increases which have the same effect on the price of goods and services and whose impact hits companies inside the country as well as outside.

(11-26-2024 10:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:43 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

Dude, read the second paragraph where I address this. Get a grip.

I did read it. You're premise is that inflation would be small and quickly recede. My point is that these are not targeted tariffs.

And that paragraph actually sort of states that you expect a recession, but not a deep one. If so, you think taking the good economy that we have now and creating a recession...even a short or shallow one, is a good thing?

My second paragraph lists the major industries and products that would be impacted with wide spread tariffs. They were not included in Trump’s first term.

The economy is already poor, but because of high interest rates from the previous administration + idiot Fed Chair.

It will take a year or two to fix what is fundamentally wrong with the economy.

FFS, our economy is not currently poor!

And trumps post says ALL products.

The voters disagreed.

I’m aware that this includes all products, but I only included the sectors where the inflation rate measures. Food prices, energy prices, auto, etc. Not all industries/products are created equal and those products are optional buys for most people.

Nobody WANTS the tariffs. They have been used as a negotiating tactic to foster a trade deal or address other issues that are important as well.

Also, since when did inflation bother you? All of a sudden our government can cause it?

(11-26-2024 10:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:43 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-26-2024 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  THESE. ARE. NOT. TARGETED. TARIFFS! These are not the same thing!!!

Dude, read the second paragraph where I address this. Get a grip.

I did read it. You're premise is that inflation would be small and quickly recede. My point is that these are not targeted tariffs.

And that paragraph actually sort of states that you expect a recession, but not a deep one. If so, you think taking the good economy that we have now and creating a recession...even a short or shallow one, is a good thing?

My second paragraph lists the major industries and products that would be impacted with wide spread tariffs. They were not included in Trump’s first term.

The economy is already poor, but because of high interest rates from the previous administration + idiot Fed Chair.

It will take a year or two to fix what is fundamentally wrong with the economy.

FFS, our economy is not currently poor!

And trumps post says ALL products.

"Mexican president announces she is stopping the migrant caravans from arriving at the U.S. southern border after Trump's tariff threat."

Scoreboard

You lost

(11-26-2024 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-25-2024 11:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  To be clear, according to Trump the 25% tariffs will not be implemented, or if implemented will be removed, once Mexico and Canada stop the flow of illegal immigrants and fentanyl into the U.S.

Pop quiz, where does the flow of Fentanyl come in to our country, and who brings it in?

You won't like the answer.

I'll play, what's the answer ?