(10-03-2023 06:33 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 04:05 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 03:57 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 03:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 03:47 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  I mean all democrats voting with the 11 republicans which includes Gaetz, should concern everyone when all the dems are teaming up with them to make this happen.

Ehh. The Democrats are voting against any Republican. This vote simply reflects the fact that McCarthy cannot get a majority of the House from the Republican Party. He barely had them in January when he was elected and his failure to follow through with the agreement he made with the GOP members caused him to lose the Speakership. I think its a good thing. The next Speaker wont think he can get away with ignoring promises to his own Party members.

The next speaker could end up a dem. It would only take a few people switching sides for that to happen. Try to go for someone more conservative and the some of the moderates wont go for that. McCarthy barely got it after 15 rounds of voting.

There is a reason all the dems joined to remove him. I can promise you it is not because they believe this will lead to a more conservative speaker. They aint stupid.

Any Republican voting for Jeffries is done politically. Nothing Ive seen among the current inhabitants of DC indicate anyone there is looking to give up power prematurely---especially to elect a Speaker they likely disagree with more than any more conservative Republican. We will be fine. The Republicans will elect a Speaker from their own and will move on. Its more important to get the right leadership than it is to align under bad leadership thats comfortable with more of the same crap we had under Democrats. Whoever is elected will understand they cannot make any promises they dont intend to follow through with.

Don't be so sure. Bret Baier reported tonight that the Dems are working on a number of moderate Repubs to get them to flip, and right now they seem to have a shot. They only need a handful. You never know who might decide to retire and flip on the way out.

IF that happens, all the Repubs who caused this, including Gaetz, need to resign.

Oh, and go read the editorial Gingrich wrote on Gaetz today.

If they go----they go. That are done politically if they do it---but thats up to them. They were elected as Republicans and likely will be largely hammered out of existence just like the "heros" who voted to impeach Trump. Its not like being in the majority has mattered much with McCarthy in power. He's no Nancy Pelosi. He's just Nancy. Honestly---what about McCarthy is not replaceable? He's not been a good leader. The Republicans will spend a few days or a week electing someone else Speaker and we will move on----hopefully with someone who actually does what he says he will do.

(10-03-2023 07:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Republicans just get dumber and dumber.

I didn't think it was possible, but they keep doing it over and over.

(10-03-2023 07:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 04:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 04:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 04:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 04:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Who here doesn't agree with everything Gaetz said in that statement. Hell, we talk about it everyday here.

I don't agree with anything he said.

And I think what he did hurts the Republicans in getting more conservative things passed. He is just the right's version of the woke. 100% for me or you are the enemy.

The problem McCarthy has is Gaetz is not asking for anything unreasonable. So yeah---if your obstructing reasonable requests that are not only good for the party---but good for the ENTIRE NATION (like getting back to the normal budgeting process)---Gaetz is right----McCarthy is no better than the Democrats. Gaetz isnt asking to be Speaker. He's simply asking that McCarthy either live up to his agreement or get removed. McCarthy picked the latter. Thats on him.

With McCarthy voted out---a number of legit options who were hesitant to be considered in January are now going to be available. Im sure the Republicans will settle on someone---and whoever it is----after todays lesson----will not likely be making promises they dont intend to keep.

The reason we didn't have the normal budget process is primarily because the far right of the Republican party opposed pretty much every bill. McCarthy couldn't get the Republican Party in line.

Back and forth is part of the budget process. The reason they dont have 12 bills done is because it was never a priority for the Speaker. Its really that simple---otherwise you dont send everyone home for a 6 week vacation with just 1 of 12 bills done and a government shutdown looming in 8 weeks. The reality is we havent had a proper budget since the 1990's. Its not just McCarthy's fault. However, it is McCarthy's fault he didnt lead or make the biggest function of the House a real priority. Nothing about McCarthy is irreplaceable or even exceptional. He's a less eloquent Paul Ryan at best. Frankly---Im hard pressed to think of anyone off the top of my head that would be particularly worse---and I can think of many that would be much better. Id love Jim Jordan.

(10-03-2023 08:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Well, then I suggest that we all do some serious sky screaming and run around telling everybody that the world is ending then.

No pshit. By next Friday this will be old news.

Gaetz now saying he consulted with Trump who gave the thumbs up.

Retards of a feather.

(10-03-2023 08:32 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Well done Gaetz. All of you that are reeeeeeeee please change your panties.

One rino gets the guillotine and you guys are ready to surrender.

Reagan weeps

(10-03-2023 08:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Gaetz now saying he consulted with Trump who gave the thumbs up.

Retards of a feather.

And I've also read Trump steered clear and was quoted as saying he really liked both guys.

Just passing along what Gaetz said.

I agree with Catturd.

(10-03-2023 08:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Well, then I suggest that we all do some serious sky screaming and run around telling everybody that the world is ending then.

No pshit. By next Friday this will be old news.

You have an inside source that this will be old news by next Friday? The point is not McCarthy's replacement. The issue is 8 traitors sided with the DEMS to oust a speaker from their OWN PARTY. This HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. Nancy Pelosi wasn't ousted by the DEMS for crying out loud. If that doesn't bother you then join with the traitors!

(10-03-2023 09:03 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

That would be a riot.

We are getting to Italian daytime television crazy.

(10-03-2023 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Well, then I suggest that we all do some serious sky screaming and run around telling everybody that the world is ending then.

No pshit. By next Friday this will be old news.

You have an inside source that this will be old news by next Friday? The point is not McCarthy's replacement. The issue is 8 traitors sided with the DEMS to oust a speaker from their OWN PARTY. This HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. Nancy Pelosi wasn't ousted by the DEMS for crying out loud. If that doesn't bother you then join with the traitors!

Oh please. Maybe once it's all over you will be able to sleep at night. Traitors. Your middle school drama teacher would be proud.

(10-03-2023 09:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  You have an inside source that this will be old news by next Friday? The point is not McCarthy's replacement. The issue is 8 traitors sided with the DEMS to oust a speaker from their OWN PARTY. This HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. Nancy Pelosi wasn't ousted by the DEMS for crying out loud. If that doesn't bother you then join with the traitors!

Oh please. Maybe once it's all over you will be able to sleep at night. Traitors. Your middle school drama teacher would be proud.

I'm sleeping just fine. Telling the truth isn't hard. Apparently, accepting it for a few is.

(10-03-2023 08:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Gaetz now saying he consulted with Trump who gave the thumbs up.

Retards of a feather.

And I've also read Trump steered clear and was quoted as saying he really liked both guys.

Quote:Former President Trump expressed frustration Tuesday over infighting among Republicans just minutes before lawmakers in the House were set to vote on a motion from Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) to advance an effort to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).

“Why is it that Republicans are always fighting among themselves, why aren’t they fighting the Radical Left Democrats who are destroying our Country?” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Trump had played a role in McCarthy securing the Speakership in January after a historic 15 rounds of votes just after the start of the new Congress.

Trump had not previously weighed in on the fight over whether McCarthy should remain Speaker. The former president has maintained a good relationship with McCarthy since leaving the White House in 2021. McCarthy traveled to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida shortly after Trump left office, and the two have remained in touch.

Trump in January publicly and privately urged Republicans to back McCarthy for Speaker amid divisions within the party that led to several rounds of voting before the California Republican won the gavel.

GOP Infighting Just What The DEMS/MSM Hoped

(10-03-2023 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Well, then I suggest that we all do some serious sky screaming and run around telling everybody that the world is ending then.

No pshit. By next Friday this will be old news.

You have an inside source that this will be old news by next Friday? The point is not McCarthy's replacement. The issue is 8 traitors sided with the DEMS to oust a speaker from their OWN PARTY. This HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. Nancy Pelosi wasn't ousted by the DEMS for crying out loud. If that doesn't bother you then join with the traitors!

It took 15 votes for McCarthy to make Speaker such was the mistrust. The group that pushed him over the top under a negotiated agreement was the same group that ousted him just as they told him they would if he failed to live up the agreement. McCarthy ignored the agreement and when threatened with the consequences of his failure publicly told the group to “bring it on”. He went on to say he was right and would make the same choices if he had to do it again. McCarthy made is own bed and I have no sympathy for him.

(10-03-2023 08:32 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

They are why I sleep to gregorian music at night. Evil people.

(10-03-2023 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Well, then I suggest that we all do some serious sky screaming and run around telling everybody that the world is ending then.

No pshit. By next Friday this will be old news.

You have an inside source that this will be old news by next Friday? The point is not McCarthy's replacement. The issue is 8 traitors sided with the DEMS to oust a speaker from their OWN PARTY. This HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. Nancy Pelosi wasn't ousted by the DEMS for crying out loud. If that doesn't bother you then join with the traitors!

Once again McCarthy agreed to and consented to these ‘short leash’ rules in order to secure his speakership. He knew perfectly well the consequences

(10-03-2023 09:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 09:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2023 08:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Well, then I suggest that we all do some serious sky screaming and run around telling everybody that the world is ending then.

No pshit. By next Friday this will be old news.

You have an inside source that this will be old news by next Friday? The point is not McCarthy's replacement. The issue is 8 traitors sided with the DEMS to oust a speaker from their OWN PARTY. This HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. Nancy Pelosi wasn't ousted by the DEMS for crying out loud. If that doesn't bother you then join with the traitors!

It took 15 votes for McCarthy to make Speaker such was the mistrust. The group that pushed him over the top under a negotiated agreement was the same group that ousted him just as they told him they would if he failed to live up the agreement. McCarthy ignored the agreement and when threatened with the consequences of his failure publicly told the group to “bring it on”. He went on to say he was right and would make the same choices if he had to do it again. McCarthy made is own bed and I have no sympathy for him.

I don't think many people here do have any sympathy for him. I don't think he's a good speaker. That doesn't change the fact that this is a monumentally dumb move that hands an instant win to the dems and possibly gives the house to them. Which some people here are listing as a good thing.

Just like how the communists keep chipping away at the stone till they get the statue they want, some people need to learn that sometimes you can only take a chip out. But, you gotta keep going at it. Throwing a bomb at the stone and allowing the dems to get more of their agenda done than ever before aint the way.