(12-18-2022 08:17 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 05:46 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Are we on an era where you don't care about burning redshirts? It is win at all costs. Players going to leave. Get what you can while you can. If I were the coach, I would have a new rule, a player is here for 2-3 years tops.

No?

Look at our transfers - a bunch of nothings minus Cox. The RBs are in some kind of revolt, that isn’t normal, but for the most part these kids aren’t finding better places to play. This first year of the portal is going to be a good lesson.

Rodgers & Cox improved. The rest of the kids not really…and some might not have chairs when the music stops. Waylee is going to be interesting.

Maybe you can help me understand...what kind of revolt are these RBs involved in? NIU has consistently ran the ball more than most teams in the country. Touches have not been an issue and won't be an issue going forward. So I'm having a hard time understanding why RBs are leaving at a record pace.

Anyways. The show goes on! Go Huskies.

(12-19-2022 10:59 AM)Red Dog Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 08:17 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 05:46 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Are we on an era where you don't care about burning redshirts? It is win at all costs. Players going to leave. Get what you can while you can. If I were the coach, I would have a new rule, a player is here for 2-3 years tops.

No?

Look at our transfers - a bunch of nothings minus Cox. The RBs are in some kind of revolt, that isn’t normal, but for the most part these kids aren’t finding better places to play. This first year of the portal is going to be a good lesson.

Rodgers & Cox improved. The rest of the kids not really…and some might not have chairs when the music stops. Waylee is going to be interesting.

Maybe you can help me understand...what kind of revolt are these RBs involved in? NIU has consistently ran the ball more than most teams in the country. Touches have not been an issue and won't be an issue going forward. So I'm having a hard time understanding why RBs are leaving at a record pace.

Anyways. The show goes on! Go Huskies.

I don't have an idea to be honest. I don't think they should be leaving, in this era of college football (or any football for that matter) I would think you would want to land with a team who carries the ball.

All of them leaving makes zero sense on the field and football fit wise. No clue why they are leaving.

(12-19-2022 11:20 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 10:59 AM)Red Dog Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 08:17 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 05:46 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Are we on an era where you don't care about burning redshirts? It is win at all costs. Players going to leave. Get what you can while you can. If I were the coach, I would have a new rule, a player is here for 2-3 years tops.

No?

Look at our transfers - a bunch of nothings minus Cox. The RBs are in some kind of revolt, that isn’t normal, but for the most part these kids aren’t finding better places to play. This first year of the portal is going to be a good lesson.

Rodgers & Cox improved. The rest of the kids not really…and some might not have chairs when the music stops. Waylee is going to be interesting.

Maybe you can help me understand...what kind of revolt are these RBs involved in? NIU has consistently ran the ball more than most teams in the country. Touches have not been an issue and won't be an issue going forward. So I'm having a hard time understanding why RBs are leaving at a record pace.

Anyways. The show goes on! Go Huskies.

I don't have an idea to be honest. I don't think they should be leaving, in this era of college football (or any football for that matter) I would think you would want to land with a team who carries the ball.

All of them leaving makes zero sense on the field and football fit wise. No clue why they are leaving.

I think you take these individually and not try to make a group scenario. Waylee left to not split carries. Credel IDK. Blakemore and Kellman were barely going to see any reps.

(12-19-2022 11:31 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 11:20 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 10:59 AM)Red Dog Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 08:17 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-18-2022 05:46 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Are we on an era where you don't care about burning redshirts? It is win at all costs. Players going to leave. Get what you can while you can. If I were the coach, I would have a new rule, a player is here for 2-3 years tops.

No?

Look at our transfers - a bunch of nothings minus Cox. The RBs are in some kind of revolt, that isn’t normal, but for the most part these kids aren’t finding better places to play. This first year of the portal is going to be a good lesson.

Rodgers & Cox improved. The rest of the kids not really…and some might not have chairs when the music stops. Waylee is going to be interesting.

Maybe you can help me understand...what kind of revolt are these RBs involved in? NIU has consistently ran the ball more than most teams in the country. Touches have not been an issue and won't be an issue going forward. So I'm having a hard time understanding why RBs are leaving at a record pace.

Anyways. The show goes on! Go Huskies.

I don't have an idea to be honest. I don't think they should be leaving, in this era of college football (or any football for that matter) I would think you would want to land with a team who carries the ball.

All of them leaving makes zero sense on the field and football fit wise. No clue why they are leaving.

I think you take these individually and not try to make a group scenario. Waylee left to not split carries. Credel IDK. Blakemore and Kellman were barely going to see any reps.

Kelllman went to Charlotte, the new coach is his old HS coach. He went to a BIG TIME HS football school, St Francis out of Baltimore. Charlotte has recruited 5 transfers so far who were St Francis graduates. Blakemore picked a good program and will get the opportuinty for carries. Of all the backs that left, I feel the least concern about is Credel, dont feel he is strong enough to carry the rock and will be injury prone.

(12-19-2022 10:58 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 09:38 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 05:11 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 12:15 AM)TrentenH Wrote:  We just committed the #1 JUCO TE in Grayson Barnes. Comes to us from American River C.C. in California

https://twitter.com/gbarnes5252/status/1...GwpHewUbcA


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I don't recall us ever recruiting a TE that is so obviously more skilled receiving than blocking. We have usually had more blocker types who developed into receivers. Over the years it has not been our strongest position, but in our offense it's a key spot.

6-5, 205 LBS? Gotta think he's headed to WR.

He's heavier than that, he is definitely a TE. Look at his highlight and the routes he runs, he also does not have the quickness or sppeed to play outside. He will be great if we can catch the ball in the middle of the field.

(12-19-2022 11:45 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 10:58 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 09:38 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 05:11 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  

(12-19-2022 12:15 AM)TrentenH Wrote:  We just committed the #1 JUCO TE in Grayson Barnes. Comes to us from American River C.C. in California

https://twitter.com/gbarnes5252/status/1...GwpHewUbcA


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I don't recall us ever recruiting a TE that is so obviously more skilled receiving than blocking. We have usually had more blocker types who developed into receivers. Over the years it has not been our strongest position, but in our offense it's a key spot.

6-5, 205 LBS? Gotta think he's headed to WR.

He's heavier than that, he is definitely a TE. Look at his highlight and the routes he runs, he also does not have the quickness or sppeed to play outside. He will be great if we can catch the ball in the middle of the field.

247 has him at 205. American River CC listed him at 210 on their roster. So maybe he comes here at 210-215? That's still not TE weight.

(12-19-2022 12:15 AM)TrentenH Wrote:  We just committed the #1 JUCO TE in Grayson Barnes. Comes to us from American River C.C. in California

Impressive…this guy is ranked #1 out of 2. Sucks to be that other guy!

All joking aside (well the #1 out of 2 thing isn’t a joke…that’s for real) Hammock has focused on TE this recruiting cycle and this kid is still a nice find. Big kid who can catch. You can probably cross off the other transfer TEs.

WR/ATH. 6’1”, 195. Track guy 11.14. 100m

Dekalb Kid… Tucker 2.0

For signing day score keeping purposes, here's a list of everyone I know of who at one point said they're coming to NIU. Please add any I missed. An underwhelming class on paper.

DL Ajahvea Robinson Phillips
RB Azhuqn Dingle Butler CC
TE Bryce Harrison Apopka, FL
DT Casey Bending Fremd
LB Chase Hutchinson Des Moines, IA
OL Christian Medlock Homewood Flossmoor
WR Cole Weaver Blessed Trinity, GA Decommitted to Miami, OH
K Danny Vuckovick Lake Zurizh
WR/TE Devariae Burns Simeon
LB DJ Ritter Lincoln Way East Twitter said "Thank you for the opportunity to play at NIU"
S Ethan Tierney Dekalb
RB Garrett Gensler Rochelle
TE Grayson Barnes Cali
TE Hyatt Timosciek Lockport
OL Jacob Welch Johnsburg
WR James Smith Richards
DE Jay'Shon Thomas Hamilton, GA
RB Jaylen Poe GA
RB Jaylon Calhoun Moody AFB, GA
TE Jayln Thompson Dowling Catholic, Des Moines Decommitted to Iowa
QB Josh Holst Marengo
WR Kobe Askew Harris County, GA
WR Kyle Thomas Marian Catholic
OL Landon Hron Hartford, WI
OL Luke Skartvedt Indy
DB Makhi Rolle North Miami Beach
DT Mark Hensley Washington, IL
QB Mason Kidd Lawrenceville, GA
OL Michael Jimmer Plainfield East
ATH Miles Thompson Cedar Rapids Decommitted to Texas Tech
DE Neveah Sanders Iowa Western
LB Phillip Petey Baynes Jr Georgia
DE RaSean Randall Cass Tech
WR Ryan McDonald Phillips
CB Santana Banner Georgia
OL Thomas Paasch Green Bay
OL Tre Mack Minneapolis
DB Tre Wright Perry, GA Decommitted to Memphis
TE Tyler Gaines Rockford
ATH Tyler Gentile Oak Forest
LB Tyler Jackson Lamar transfer

Great post 81!

I counted 40 recruits - 6 decommitts for a net 34. Isnt that a large number to bring in? IMO, it is the best OL ine group in a long time. A couple of them have a HIGH ceiling. The other highlites to me so far.........Dingle can run the ball....a TE that is a known quanity cathching the ball with some reach. Some really athletic edge recruits in Baynes,Randall and Sanders. We are lacking in skills on the outside,,,,CBs, and WRs....we just dont really know until they get here.

(12-20-2022 12:25 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

WR/ATH. 6’1”, 195. Track guy 11.14. 100m

Dekalb Kid… Tucker 2.0

Wow. Even went to DeKalb HS too.

(12-20-2022 05:29 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(12-20-2022 12:25 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

WR/ATH. 6’1”, 195. Track guy 11.14. 100m

Dekalb Kid… Tucker 2.0

Wow. Even went to DeKalb HS too.

Dekalb High, the IMG Academy of the north.

Another commit. Big WR

https://twitter.com/tylergaines2023/stat...cwNT0OmRyA


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Looks like he is gonna play tight end per his twitter bio

(12-20-2022 06:59 PM)7 Wrote:  Looks like he is gonna play tight end per his twitter bio

Agree.... does not have the speed to play outside. TE/Hback. Blocker with some receiving skills.

I know we will have a better understanding tomorrow but have we seemingly beaten out any “bigger competition” on some of these players?

Once upon a time I assumed some of our under ranked/ under recruited guys were just that and would prove out over time. Now, With the exception of Rudolph I just don’t see that happening.

(12-20-2022 07:28 PM)DPD Wrote:  I know we will have a better understanding tomorrow but have we seemingly beaten out any “bigger competition” on some of these players?

Once upon a time I assumed some of our under ranked/ under recruited guys were just that and would prove out over time. Now, With the exception of Rudolph I just don’t see that happening.

Jimmar at one point had a Syracuse and Kansas offer

Mack had a Syracuse offer

Randall had a Syracuse offer

I mean Syracuse is probably one of those schools that offers everyone though.

So to answer your question, not really. Bunch of OK players. Doesn’t mean they are bad. Probably Hammock’s worst full class on paper. But, I don’t think we can say for a few seasons. The linemen look good. The hybrid DBs could be good. Kidd could be the QB of the future? We don’t really know. On paper meh, but paper doesn’t play games.

(12-20-2022 07:51 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-20-2022 07:28 PM)DPD Wrote:  I know we will have a better understanding tomorrow but have we seemingly beaten out any “bigger competition” on some of these players?

Once upon a time I assumed some of our under ranked/ under recruited guys were just that and would prove out over time. Now, With the exception of Rudolph I just don’t see that happening.

Jimmar at one point had a Syracuse and Kansas offer

Mack had a Syracuse offer

Randall had a Syracuse offer

I mean Syracuse is probably one of those schools that offers everyone though.

So to answer your question, not really. Bunch of OK players. Doesn’t mean they are bad. Probably Hammock’s worst full class on paper. But, I don’t think we can say for a few seasons. The linemen look good. The hybrid DBs could be good. Kidd could be the QB of the future? We don’t really know. On paper meh, but paper doesn’t play games.

Agreed these ratings can be a crap shoot, My thought was just until we start finding some of this diamonds in the rough it’ll be nice to be winning on paper.

I remember beating out some big 10 teams for Aregeros Turner and getting Huff to pass on NC state back in the day. Now that maybe a thing of the past because of NIL but it would be nice to have one or 2 of those mixed into these classes since paper is all we’ve got right now.

(12-20-2022 07:51 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-20-2022 07:28 PM)DPD Wrote:  I know we will have a better understanding tomorrow but have we seemingly beaten out any “bigger competition” on some of these players?

Once upon a time I assumed some of our under ranked/ under recruited guys were just that and would prove out over time. Now, With the exception of Rudolph I just don’t see that happening.

Jimmar at one point had a Syracuse and Kansas offer

Mack had a Syracuse offer

Randall had a Syracuse offer

I mean Syracuse is probably one of those schools that offers everyone though.

So to answer your question, not really. Bunch of OK players. Doesn’t mean they are bad. Probably Hammock’s worst full class on paper. But, I don’t think we can say for a few seasons. The linemen look good. The hybrid DBs could be good. Kidd could be the QB of the future? We don’t really know. On paper meh, but paper doesn’t play games.

Jimmar and Mack have high upside. If they can play, they will be really good.

(12-20-2022 08:58 PM)DPD Wrote:  

(12-20-2022 07:51 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-20-2022 07:28 PM)DPD Wrote:  I know we will have a better understanding tomorrow but have we seemingly beaten out any “bigger competition” on some of these players?

Once upon a time I assumed some of our under ranked/ under recruited guys were just that and would prove out over time. Now, With the exception of Rudolph I just don’t see that happening.

Jimmar at one point had a Syracuse and Kansas offer

Mack had a Syracuse offer

Randall had a Syracuse offer

I mean Syracuse is probably one of those schools that offers everyone though.

So to answer your question, not really. Bunch of OK players. Doesn’t mean they are bad. Probably Hammock’s worst full class on paper. But, I don’t think we can say for a few seasons. The linemen look good. The hybrid DBs could be good. Kidd could be the QB of the future? We don’t really know. On paper meh, but paper doesn’t play games.

Agreed these ratings can be a crap shoot, My thought was just until we start finding some of this diamonds in the rough it’ll be nice to be winning on paper.

I remember beating out some big 10 teams for Aregeros Turner and getting Huff to pass on NC state back in the day. Now that maybe a thing of the past because of NIL but it would be nice to have one or 2 of those mixed into these classes since paper is all we’ve got right now.

So far everything has been very underwhelming on the recruiting front and just football in general. Even a coaching change would be more exciting than what has happened so far. Sad we can’t land a P5 guy looking for playing time.