(06-24-2022 09:33 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote: What happens next? Women will die. Others will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. Children will be born into households that cannot and do not want to take care of them.
Women with means will still be able to get to blue states to get the operation performed. This includes the mistresses and the daughters of prominent GOP donors and members of congress.
And lastly, hopefully this motivates the 2/3rds of Americans who did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned to show up to the polls. I still think the Dems are going to take a beating in November but this will definitely blunt it IMO.
Q: Why do Demokkkrats go along so willingly with the idea that it is their own children who most deserve to be murdered? I mean, how stupid is that?
(06-24-2022 12:08 PM)TripleA Wrote: What about women being responsible for whether they get pregnant in the first place?
Not to mention, there are long lines of good people wanting to adopt.
Plus, they can always get in a car and go to a blue state.
Already have seen more than a few posts here and comments elsewhere speaking to the shifting of responsibility and the actual place the Real "choice" takes place: when the Man and Woman decide to have sex (same-sex couples don't have the issue, because, well, Science says that unnatural liaisons don't produce anything because they are unnatural and disordered.)
Q: The Interstate implications of traveling from a State where baby-murder is illegal to one where baby-murder may still be considered legal will keep the Courts busy for a while. Reciprocal agreements, the Commerce Clause, Federal Jurisdiction and enforcement of interstate law are potentially going to be brought front and center here. The only "solution" in that case may well be that one actually has to move to and legally reside in the State where they want to murder their children that allows it.
Perhaps a Pakistan-India type resettling would occur, and then the final Divide can commence. One side hell-bent on self-murder, spending money they don't have, and creating a modern American third-world Communist state that will fall into destruction, hyper-inflation, criminality and unrest that makes this year look like a cakewalk--and the other a Constitution-loving Republic of Prosperity, National Strength, Freedom, Liberty and Equal Opportunity for all who abide by the laws.
Edit: I'd go ahead and invite Alberta, Canada to the Freedom side, they have lots of Oil, too, and we love that and could really use it now to power our gasoline IC engines! Let the rest of the Lefties fight over their "EVs" without any way to provide themselves power ('cepting they's Unicorns, of course!)
(06-24-2022 12:17 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Pretty certain there's gotta be some semen from somewhere to get a woman pregnant. So are we going to have a complete revamp of the mans financial responsibility for getting a woman pregnant in these states where abortion gets outlawed?
Not sure I'd be looking at it in socialist terms. First, How about changing Marriage laws to allow for Equal Treatment as well as aligning with ALL other Contract/agreement Laws where the BREACHING PARTY is the one who loses and the one who is willing to stay in the Marriage an NOT breach is awarded the rebuttable presumption.
END ALL NO-FAULT DIVORCE WHERE CHILDREN OF THE UNION ARE PRESENT AND REQUIRE PROVABLE GROUNDS.
(06-24-2022 12:17 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Also I like the "just carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption" pretending that getting medical care being pregnant is just free or something and that there are zero short and long term health risks from being pregnant even aside from just the potential of dying during childbirth (which in a lot of the states that will ban abortion their mortality rates are at the level of some 3rd world countries).
Ahem, NO ONE has an unfettered "Right" to have sex whenever, wherever they want without consequences. Maybe re-introducing some responsibility and consequences for decisions made (whether rational or not) will be a good thing in the long run: "Don't be like that guy who got a girl pregnant and now has to pay for their decision." Also: "Don't be like that girl who allows herself to be getting pregnant out-of-wedlock and lives in poverty and chaos."
Stigma and Shame can be a good thing in society if allowed to properly function without being covered over by gub'mint welfares and expensive (and failed) Demokkkrat "programs" that other people (i.e. Legal Citizen Taxpayers) have for too long been made to pay for. The only people who SHOULD pay are the ones making the bad decisions and acting irresponsibly.
(06-24-2022 02:04 PM)umbluegray Wrote: I agree. No more out-of-wedlock births and single mothers raising children. Force men to be fathers and husbands. That's one of the BEST things we could do to turn this nation around.
No more following the Marxist philosophy of "abolishing the family."
First, ALLOW MEN to be FATHERS without taking that Right away from them by forcibly breaking up their families when they don't want them to be broken up. This doesn't apply to all situations, of course, but far too many millions of men who otherwise might stay in their children's lives are forcibly removed by State interference in their families simply because the Mothers filed motions to get "their money" from both the state welfares programs and extort it from the Fathers with no recourse. For decades and decades, too many Men have recognized what a bunch of Bu77$#it the State "family" court "systems" are and have become turning them into nothing more than the Modern American Plantation System. When you recognize Bu77$#it you refuse to participate and resist Bu77$#it, an that is what has been happening in ALL communities, but ESPECIALLY in Black and Brown communities for 60 years.
There is little positive incentive to get married in the U.S. for men, but a whole lot of downside, and taxation inequality is just one aspect. Restoring the BENEFITS of MARRIAGE so that it once again becomes something ALL Legal Citizens aspire to, and refuse to allow walk-aways without consequences from ETHER the man or the woman, but especially from the Woman, who have gotten away with another form of murder for too long, at the expense of the Children once again.
Taking Responsibility for who you shack up with is a good thing to have return to society.
Now for those men who are criminals, who have records, who have been lied to that "freedom" is getting high or drunk all the time and wearing your pants around your knees, or anyone residing here in this country illegally well, they DO need to be held accountable instead of being coddled (and booked and released repeatedly like the Demokkkrats wet dream idea of "law enforcement".
SOCIALISM CAUSES SOCIAL PROBLEMS it NEVER cures them.
Quote:In case you aren't aware, that's exactly what Crisis Pregnancy Centers do. You know, those places the radical marxist leftist terrorists have been vandalizing and fire-bombing? They help women thru their pregnancies -- emotionally, financially and medically.
As far as health affects(sic) from being pregnant -- actually there's more a detrimental health risk to women that have never given birth. Having an abortion and not actually giving birth is very harmful to a woman's future health.
As far as the potential of dying during childbirth... yes, it happens. But thankfully it's so low statistically. And somehow the human race has flourished in spite of that "threat".
I know and support many of the people who work at crisis pregnancy centers and assure you the care only begins with the decision to save the life of the child, many have networks of people who work with the Mothers (and Fathers in some cases) for years or a decade or more to continue to provide VOLUNTARY support for them, as well as help teach them life and Parenting skills the Left doesn't ever want them to know about. Oh, they might also suggest a church to them once in a while or speak about God (the horror!)
There are a ton of benefits for a woman to carry a baby to term, including reduced Breast Cancer risk, which many women, especially poor Demokkkrat-indoctrinated woman, have never even heard of because the Scientific FACTS have been intentionally hidden from them by the Leftist ho would rather they pay THEM to KILL their babies, resulting in the corporate multi-billion dollar baby-murder industry.
In Summary, this one decision could very much HELP American Society and Women in the long run by exposing the Lies of Leftist ideology for what they really are: Leftists are and always have been extremely Anti-Women, Anti-Family and Anti-American, and it it time for it to STOP! A reexamination of priorities and responsibilities, marriage, divorce and tax laws that include making FAMILY and MARRIAGE the number one priorities are long overdue.
